"New Favorite" in DC (email from The Hill) is ... Simon Rosenberg

[jefferson_dem]

This, from Jerome at http://www.mydd.com/story/2004/11/22/11029/586 -
Simon Rosenberg, who currently heads the New Democrat Network, is becoming the favorite to become the next chairman of the DNC. But the former Clintonite also has a strong following among "outside" Democrats--activists who came to the party via former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean and other Internet voters who read the blogs. Rosenberg's straight talk about what the party needs to do has been remarkably consistent and his 527's effort to win Hispanic voters was more successful than expected. Also in his favor: He's a tireless fundraiser.

[ibegurpard]

1. I could live with that

whether he actually agrees the Party needs a major shake-up or whether he's just co-opting the "insurgent" mantle remains to be seen. But in any case, he seems to agree with what many of us think ails the party.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

2. I could largely live with Rosenberg.

And there is a very good possibility that he would leverage a relationship with Dean to open up the party beyond the DLC axis.

[TheDonkey]

3. Him or Dean I'd like to see

we need a progressive leading this party. A new strong message crafted with sharp and tough language.
It's time we stop tip-toeing around moderates and conservatives and just speak the truth. Moderates will get it and come on over.

[TheDonkey]

4. scanned the website and stumbled on a good commerical

this is what we should be doing

http://www.newdem.org/memorable/scrap.php

[madfloridian]

5. It is a PAC . New Dems are at the same website as DLC.

Says they are not connected, but a PAC would have to say that. I am not sure of this myself.

http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=86&subid=85&contentid=894

The Democratic Leadership Council (www.NDOL.org), a non-profit 501(c)(4) organization founded in 1984 -- the original home and leading edge of the movement. Under the leadership of its founder and chief executive officer, Al From, the DLC seeks to define and galvanize popular political support for a new public philosophy built on progressive ideals, mainstream values, and innovative, nonbureaucratic solutions. (Click here to learn more about the DLC's affiliated think tank, the Progressive Policy Institute, www.ppionline.org.)

The House New Democrat Coalition, a group of 74 moderate, pro-growth members of the House of Representatives working to find mainstream, bipartisan solutions to our nation's problems. The NDC was founded in 1997 by Representatives Cal Dooley (CA), Jim Moran (VA), and Tim Roemer (IN). (See our New Dem Directory for the full list of members.) More About the House NDC

The Senate New Democrat Coalition, a group of 20 moderate, pro-growth members of the United States Senate, founded in the spring of 2000 by Senators Joe Lieberman (CT), Evan Bayh (IN), Mary Laundrieu (LA), John Edwards (NC), John Breaux (LA), Chuck Robb (VA), Blanche Lambert Lincoln (AR), Bob Kerrey (NE) and Bob Graham (FL). (See our New Dem Directory for the full list of members.)

The New Democrat Network (www.newdem.org), a political action committee founded in 1996, which gives financial support to New Democrat candidates and elected officials. The NDN's president and founder is Simon Rosenberg. The NDN is not affiliated with the DLC.
For an in-depth history of the New Democrat movement, read Reinventing Democrats (University Press of Kansas, 2000), by Kenneth Baer.


The Hyde Park Declaration: A Statement of Principles and a Policy Agenda for the 21st Century

About the Democratic Leadership Council

About the Progressive Policy Institute

About the Third Way

About the New Democrat Network

[genius]

8. The "New Democrats" are the DLC. I used to get their newsletter.

Printing it up gave me a source of appropriate papers for paper-training my dog.

[madfloridian]

10. Yes, they are.

Thanks.

[jefferson_dem]

6. Why Simon Rosenberg Should NOT be DNC Chair /sarcasm

Found this in the KOS archives -

Here is why:
1. Vision

Simon is well known as an individual of vision. We want a short sighted party, one that is always scrambling from one ad hoc battle to the next, with no idea of the future, and no ability to speak to the aspirations of Americans.

2. National Majority

Simon is well known as someone who wants the Democratic Party to nationalize the issues and seek a majority and governing coalition. We all know that the Democratic Party is much better off fighting every election over backyard issues, and having no principles that will get in the way.

3. Charisma

Having a DNC Chair who is sauve and engaging would ruin the party's long cultivated image of being boring and flat. People would begin to confuse us with Republicans, who are often telegenic. Don't undercut our brand! Boring is Beautiful!

4. Youth

The Democratic Party wants to be the party of old things, musty things, dry things, not the party of the future, and of an America that is part of the 21st century. Afterall in 1932, one speaker at the Democratic Convention stood up and said that there would never be any progress from Thomas Jefferson, and never should be. If it was good enough to win the election of 1808, it should be good enough to win the election of 2008.

5. Internet savvy

We don't want a DNC chair associated with new media, and the future of communications. In fact, we should go back to carving our message on clay tablets, because otherwise we will scare off people who still think the printing press is a controverial idea.

Where would we be in the blogsphere if we couldn't complain about the DNC? Think how many thousands of bloggers would be out of cheap sources of jokes. And being listened to. God, we'd all have a heart attack if that happened.

6. Integrity

The Democratic Party's long tradition is to create openings for the Republicans to question our integrity. Appointing an individual as soundly and squarly honest as Simon would be a major blow to this long standing policy.

7. Centrism

Simon is well known for believing that the future of the Democratic Party is as the standard bearer for the broad majority of Americans. Instead, we should appoint someone who is either a Zell out, so that we won't be attacked by Miller any more, or who has experience blowing leads in an election, to establish continuity with our recent past. Merely doing the greatest good for the greatest number by winning elections is so 20th century.

8. Message

Simon is well known as someone who believes that the Democratic party should have a harmonized message to take to voters, a clear and concise phrasing of why people are Democrats. The current cacophony was good enough to lose control of the governorships of the largest states, the Presidency, the Congress, the Supreme Court and the national agenda. Why mess with failure? It can't get any worse than this.

9. Broadmindedness

Simon is well known for being able to talk across the spectrum of the Democratic Party, and for opening doors. We want a cold, aloof, and closed party apparatus, lest the Republicans steal all our good ideas.

In fact, the only thing that can be said in his favor is that the New Democratic Network doesn't have one of those trendy browser icons. Don't need those either. After all, Martin van Buren didn't need them.

http://hl-mungo.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/11/192758/09

[jefferson_dem]

7. Holy shit. Public airing of the Rosenberg and Dean schism in Dec '03

Rosenberg and Dean expressed contradicting visions a year ago. Now, here they stand as the top two contenders (supposedly) for DNC Chair.

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Try as I might, I can't figure out how this will succeed. As Ron Brownstein noted today, "ven Democratic moderates who have been sympathetic to Dean's campaign worry he could be pushing the party toward an internal upheaval that would severely erode his ability to compete as a general-election nominee."

Dean has no closer ally among the centrist wing of the Dem party than Simon Rosenberg, president of the New Democrat Network, a Democratic political action committee, who used to be a DLC staffer. And yet, with Dean's recent condemnation of the DLC, even Rosenberg appears to be worried about Dean's direction.

"Is going to present a new synthesis that incorporates all the best of all the traditions in the party…or is he going to be the leader of the counterrevolution" Rosenberg said this week.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/000999.html

[madfloridian]

9. It all needs to be discussed. I say that often.

I frankly don't care who is the chair. We are with DFA now. I just want it all to come out. What happened in the primaries, all of it.

What Clinton did in the primaries, all of it.

It is a good idea. I have nothing against Rosenberg as a person. However, we need to examine how close the New Dems are to the DLC.

Let it all hang out.

[jefferson_dem]

11. I agree. Unless we be honest about things, there will be SERIOUS

legitimacy concerns, and therefore nearly insurmountable organizational hurdles for whomever is selected.

I'm interested in the primary concerns you refer to. Is there really evidence of Clinton manipulating things from behind the scenes? Or are there only urban legends, which we primarily offered by those on the Right who ascribe all sorts of maniacal power-plays by the Clinton team. I mean, i'm really skeptical of how even Clinton would be able to "fix" a caucus (Iowa) and a primary (NH). It was really all over after Iowa.

Whatever the case, let's get the shit out of the way and forge ahead, in a bad-ass sort of way!

[madfloridian]

12. I never use the word "fix". I won't go there.

I never said fix. They did all they could to determine the outcome.

I want someone to finally be honest about the attacks here at DU during the primaries. People want to form alliances, but I won't do that until we get it out in the open.

Clinton did influence a lot. I think there is more than was in the Dean book, and he referred to it on Charley Rose...he did not elaborate....but more occurred.

[jefferson_dem]

13. Right on, madfloridian! Sad that i had not yet immersed myself

in the DU community until after the primaries. And have wondered about how divided the Dem troops were prior to the hardcore partisan unification behind JK. I can imagine it was a helluva bumpy ride!

[madfloridian]

14. We nearly all supported him, and now we are needed no longer.

Yes, it is sad. Dean agreed to keep us on board. Or at least the ones who were not Democrats, and might not vote. He urged his supporters to do so. Most did.

The hatred here is indicative of the split beginning in the party.

I choose to criticize status quo of the party, and I get treated as a traitor. Sorts of reminds me of nationalism.

I will never forget the day in Iowa that Clinton said to fall in love (condescendingly) but then fall in line after the primaries.

We did, Dean did.

I can not explain further about the attacks here. It would get me in real trouble. I think others can and should, but it can not be us. Too many were forced to leave DU, good people.

I don't care who the chair is, I really don't. I am scared about the implications of the votes this week-end. I think our party is behaving badly.

I have been attacked, then told not to play the victim. Told not to be a martyr. It is all very efficiently done. Very well done.

[jefferson_dem]

15. Gotcha. Thanks...and keep up the good fight!

Perhaps when we get the advanced search options back, i'll scour the deep archives a bit.