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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:48 AM
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Let's not fight the primaries again....Let's support our honorable Pols
We are degenerating into infighting. Dean would have won! He speaks the truth! Oh wait, he's angry. Clark would win! He would have won on the defense issue. Ummm, he was a Republican. Edwards would win the Southern votes. Ummm, he has no experience. Kerry is a fighter and has military experience. But he is a liberal and didn't win. ON and on and on.

All of these men are honorable and I'm proud to support any of them. We demean ourselves by bashing any of them at this time. I have huge disagreements with all about policy issues but I know they would move this nation forward and serve honorably. I'm disgusted we are still bashing our candidates and continuing to divide us.

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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:51 AM
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1. that's the one thing the repukes have over us...
i for one think, they know how to circle the wagons.

move on i say-- i seriously doubt ANYONE could have won 2004 for BBV reason and stupidity of half of our electorate.

it is what it is, we need to get a strategery to win 2008.

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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:05 AM
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5. Republicans circle the wagons. Democrats circle the firing squad.
I'd say that perhaps we all should take a clue from the former primary candidates none of home have engaged in the sort of backbiting that their followers on the blogs have done.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:54 AM
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2. You have a good point
Though I was a Dean supporter, I think that Clark has made some very good points, and that Edwards has been very effective as well.

What I am concerned about is that the Democratic leadership, which, I believe, doesn't include any of these gentlemen (does it include any of the candidates?) appears to be simply rolling over and letting Bush have his way on everything without question. Why has there been no outrage over the abortion restrictions in the budget bill, for example? Or are Democratic leaders objecting and the media not covering it?
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 10:11 AM
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9. For what it's worth,
I, personally, watched many of them object during the proceedings on CSPAN Saturday. I also watched a 2-hour fight over the IRS provision of the bill. The sad thing, to me, is that, IMO, our Dems just don't have a whole lot of power right now to do anything besides "object". In January, the will have even less power.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:56 AM
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3. We will never know
whether Dean, Clark, Edwards, or anyone else would have won. All we know for sure is that Kerry lost. We must be united, sure support the candidate of your choice in 2006 and 2008, but don't dwell in the past. We have to fight back harder than ever before now. We have to take control of the media, if we can, we have to run viable candidates for everything from dog catcher all the way up to president.
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IthinkThereforeIAM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:01 AM
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4. I have found...

... it to be childish and immature the way everyone is looking for "THE REASON" why the democrats lost. You put it succinctly. We had the best candidate out there, and it appears he won. Let the vote recounts/audits bring this forward.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:09 AM
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6. It's natural for the party out of power to divide into factions...
When the Repubs were in the minority, they were ruthless in attacking each other. There was perpetual war between the Rockefeller wing & the Strom Thurmond wing.

When you hold the power, you can afford to be gracious.
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DeminGa Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 09:28 AM
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7. In 2008
The Dems need to think about their strategy for 2008 and the importance of their behavior in the primaries!!!

Last time around, the Repukes were handed all the ammunition they needed in order to negatively characterize our candidates. The infighting between the Dems in the primierys spelled out the game plan for the Repukes.....Edwards a lawyer and too inexperienced, Kerry out of touch with the common man and indecisive on the war

Our candidates were already mortally wounded before the race for president began!
(Personally I dont think the Dems were rabid by any means, but not much is needed, hell the truth isnt even needed, for the repukes to get a few good sound bites)

Next time, we need to have a different mentality if we are to win. The candidates are going to have to make clear their differences on POLICY and PRIORITY and NOT fight each other with cheap shots!

The candidates need to adopt the attitude that regardless of which one of them wins the White House, they all benefit, the party as a whole benefits! And in order to win, they must play as a team from the very beginning.

Next time around I'd like to hear, "blank blank is a good man with good intentions, but we have different ideas as to how to implement the changes needed in this country. I believe America would benefit from my platform more so."

If we hear the Demos characterize each other as "too young, too inexperienced, too left or too right, not strong enough in their convictions, too selfish, too black too white, too ANYTHING"....we are likely to lose again because we have set ourselves up for a fall
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DeminGa Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 09:32 AM
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8. oops!
"primierys"!?!?!?! What in gods name is a primierys!?!?

*lol*
Forgive me, its early yet
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 10:36 AM
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10. Those who say Kerry should go away and only Dean is needed are WRONG.
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 11:21 AM by blm
Those who say Dean should go away and only Kerry's, Edwards', Kucinich's, Clark's, (insert candidate) voice is needed are WRONG.

These men forged into a team after the primaries. They all worked TOGETHER to get rid of Bush and his policies....they had a common goal.....and they STILL DO.

We should work WITH all of them. They all proved to be good men of strong and varied talent. We should only require they be honest in their assessments so, together, we can be MORE constructive moving forward.

Anything less is narrow-minded and destructive.
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