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Tue Nov-23-04 12:39 PM
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they voted overwhelmingly for Bush in Ohio. they usually dont vote.
well, it makes about as much sense as blaming Union members, doesn't it? :eyes:
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Tue Nov-23-04 12:40 PM
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1. Don't they do it standing up? |
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sorry, I'm flippant today.
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Tue Nov-23-04 12:43 PM
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4. hahaha are you serious? Do they? |
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I'd think they do it with a bed sheet between them with a hole punched through.
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Tue Nov-23-04 12:44 PM
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5. i thought they did it with their eyes closed. nt |
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Tue Nov-23-04 12:41 PM
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Somehow "Amish" and "fucked" in the same sentence makes my head hurt.
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Tue Nov-23-04 12:42 PM
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3. this is a sarcastic takeoff on the "the unions fucked us" thread, btw. |
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i was annoyed at it, and decided to create this thread in protest.
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Tue Nov-23-04 12:47 PM
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6. Those voter registration booths at WalMart were a bad sign |
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Signed 'em up by the van load.
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Tue Nov-23-04 12:49 PM
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7. I thought they were anti war. |
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They need some enlistment papers sent their way.
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Tue Nov-23-04 01:23 PM
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17. It was probably a tough choice for them |
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Being anti-war or ant-gay
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Tue Nov-23-04 01:48 PM
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18. eh, they're more anti-gay than they are anti-war. nt |
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Tue Nov-23-04 12:50 PM
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8. there are many Amish in PA too |
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and we saw how that turned out....
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Wed Nov-24-04 09:14 AM
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Wed Nov-24-04 04:56 PM
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26. Yeah, but the PA Amish live in places like "Intercourse" so |
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they aren't the same as the Ohio Amish, apparently!!! LOL
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Tue Nov-23-04 12:54 PM
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9. that was part of their religious GOTV , they even targeted Mosques |
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that's how they got some latinos to vote for them. it was mostly through churches. based on the gay marriage and abortion issues.
they tried to do it with black voters also that's why there were reports of black voters moving towards bush. they found a few who said they will vote based on the gay marriage issue for bush. but black voters overall still supported Kerry.
we really need to do something about these churches. many catholic churches banned kerry from attending also which made it tougher for him to reach out to those of his own religion.
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Tue Nov-23-04 01:01 PM
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10. The amish fuck their little sisters too |
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http://atheism.about.com/b/a/108249.htmAugust 28, 2004 Amish Rape Scandals One doesn't normally think of the Amish when it comes to sex scandals, but that's what is going on in Wisconsin: a man has been jailed for raping and molesting his sister for years. The Star Tribune explains: "I was molested by my father when I was 3 and gang-raped day after day by my cousins and brothers, starting when I was 6 or 7," told the Star Tribune before Wednesday's sentencing. Byler, 20, alleges that she was raped more than 200 times by members of the Amish family in which she grew up. "And when I'd tell my mother about it, she'd tell me that if I had prayed harder, fought harder, these things wouldn't happen.“
"I was sent to school ... and my mother told me, 'If you truly don't want this to happen, it won't.' I've been judged by the Amish all my life. I've been on trial all my life." ... Eli Byler, 24, who told the Star Tribune in April that he first raped his sister when Mary was 8 and he was 12, was sentenced to eight years in prison Wednesday after previously pleading guilty to one count of the sexual assault of a child. "Eli, I hope you still hear my screaming in your nightmares," Mary Byler said in court, reading from a prepared statement as family members and nearly two dozen other Amish listened. "You were my brother. "You should have protected me . . . and you raped me."
Eli Byler, one of three brothers charged with sexual assault of a child, told the court, "I believe God will forgive me."
Does this sound like remorse? Not to me.
David Byler, 18, is charged with two counts of the sexual assault of a child, a relative who is now 6 years old. For Mary Byler, the alleged assaults by her younger brother were the breaking point that prompted her to contact authorities in southwestern Wisconsin's Vernon County. Viroqua is about 25 miles southeast of La Crosse. ... "I don't want her to grow up like I did," Mary Byler said, her shaky hands lighting one cigarette after another. "It scares the hell out of me. More than a dozen women who left the Amish have contacted me and told me they were raped by their fathers, brothers, uncles and cousins. But they couldn't tell a soul because it's such a closed society."
The Amish tried to handle things themselves by banishing one brother from church for six weeks and forbidding the other from associating with church members until he had “improved” his character. Some “punishment.”
"If it happened many times, it's not rape anymore. She's probably asking for it," said Byler's stepfather, William Kempf, 78, in a Star Tribune interview in April. On Wednesday, he said before the sentencing: "Mary's been brainwashed." Kempf, charged with three counts of sexual assault and one count of battery against Mary Byler, pleaded no contest last month to lesser charges of misdemeanor battery and disorderly conduct and was sentenced to 18 months probation. His comments were typical of what Mary Byler said she's heard since her childhood in western Pennsylvania, where the sexual assaults began, she said. She recalls her father, Abraham Byler, awakening her "and just plain molesting me" when she was 3 or 4.
It’s awfully convenient that a man accused of molesting and raping a little girl would think that, once he does it multiple times, it’s not longer his fault because she was just “asking for it” all along. This sort of closed, insular community is a breeding ground for crimes like this because there is no independent authorities to observe or evaluate what is going on. Abuse of all sorts happens easily and often in situations where accountability is hard to find.
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Tue Nov-23-04 01:15 PM
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13. They are phucking weirdos |
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They still live in the 1800's.
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Tue Nov-23-04 01:18 PM
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15. Jesus Christ that's a sickening story |
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So they "banished one brother from the church for six weeks"? Oh golly, what a punishment. One has to wonder how often this goes on in not only Amish, but other closed "religious" communities. And the woman's mother said if she "prayed harder, this wouldn't happen"?! I try not to have hatred in my heart, it's not really a good thing, but I truly hate baby rapers and feel that whatever happens to them in prison is ok. Those boys should get life and be passed around for cigarettes and candy. And the mother should be commited to a mental institution, she sounds insane to me. What kind of mother, or father for that matter, wouldn't want to protect their child? Man oh man, as a father, this REALLY pisses me off.
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Tue Nov-23-04 03:51 PM
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20. It really counters that peaceful country image |
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doesn't it? I saw a girl who was raped by her brothers interviewed and she had put up with this for years, and really had to reach outside of the community to get some help, which is very hard for a child to do. But its even more astonishing that the Amish themselves weren't apalled by this behavior and make it so easy to get away with.
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Tue Nov-23-04 01:13 PM
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11. Yeah, how dare the AMish vote! n/t |
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Tue Nov-23-04 01:13 PM
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Those bastards don't have to pay taxes,they use our roads and their horses shit everywhere and they don't clean it up.Bu$h's nazi policies won't hurt them a bit. They live in a world all their own.Why do they have the right to vote when they contribute NOTHING to our society? Everything in this country is sooooo fair and balanced. :eyes:
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Wed Nov-24-04 06:51 PM
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31. YEAH! And what about this...??!!! |
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IRAQ'S WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION FOUND!!
HIDDEN IN THE LAST PLACE EXPECTED!!
The Bush administration has been frustrated with the lack of evidence of weapons of mass destruction they believe Iraq has been hiding. Weapons inspectors have reportedly had unfettered access and have been welcomed by the Iraqis where ever they have gone. A confidential source at the White House said that they have solid evidence that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction and were frankly amazed that when the inspectors arrived that they were not found. It was believed that even if Iraq moved the weapons that they would be spotted by U.S. intelligence satellites. But that has not been the case. Problem is that they were not aware that Saddam Hussein has made a secret agreement with the UN/NWO/AMISH ALLIANCE(click for details) to hide their weapons via the secret Amish tunnel network.(click for details) Some of the weapons inspectors may be turning a blind eye to this movement since they are obviously part of the UN. http://www.geocities.com/beaver_militia/wmd.htmlAnd what about THIS...??!!! Don't "photo graph" them, huh??? What's THAT all about???
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Tue Nov-23-04 01:17 PM
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14. So it was the Amish all along....Those bastards I had a feeling |
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I glanced over at my Wife late on election night & blurted out
THOSE FUCKING AMISH ARE SCREWING US LKE THEY DO THEIR H---es
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Tue Nov-23-04 01:21 PM
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I can't believe it, the Amish have Hoes.
I'm Pimping Amish. O.o
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Tue Nov-23-04 02:04 PM
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Wed Nov-24-04 03:23 PM
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Just Kidding! ;) However, read this... http://volokh.com/posts/1100643958.shtmlKarnac
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Wed Nov-24-04 03:34 PM
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24. Please bring some sanity to some of the posters above, AngryAmish. |
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There are some folks who are paranoid about *anything* pertaining to *any* religion.
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Wed Nov-24-04 03:33 PM
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23. Woa! So, there are 8 million Amish now? |
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W got that much more than in 2000 - probably even more Amish, since we know many repentant forst time votyers for W.
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Wed Nov-24-04 04:08 PM
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25. Too much in-breeding never leads to any good. |
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Wed Nov-24-04 05:30 PM
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27. Yeah... all 10 of them n/t |
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Wed Nov-24-04 06:17 PM
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28. They did too much crank and tweaked the vote |
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Wed Nov-24-04 06:21 PM
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29. That does it. I'm burning my quilt. [nt] |
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Wed Nov-24-04 06:25 PM
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30. It was the gay amish pro-choice vote |
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Wed Nov-24-04 07:53 PM
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34. well they must be crack shots |
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the amish family i know in indiana has 10 kids.
plus they're plenty self-dealing. my sis shared her balm recipe with this family's patriarch, now he sells it all over the country.
she never even got a thank you.
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Wed Nov-24-04 07:52 PM
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33. LOVE your sense of humor!! |
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You're right, it does make as much sense as blaming unions!
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Wed Nov-24-04 09:27 PM
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35. Soooo.....do the Amish use electronic voting machines? |
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Soooo.....do the Amish use electronic voting machines? Or do they get a punch card exemption?
That was the first thing that popped into my head.
Continue on.
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