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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:17 PM
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Impeach!
Yeah, I know the cards are stacked against us. Let's do some out of the box thinking here. I would like some posts here about how impeachment might be accomplished. I don't really care to hear about the things Bush/Cheney et al, have done to deserve impeachment - those are legion. It is pretty much an unnecessary discussion - they are imminently impeachable. I also well know just how stacked the cards are in their favor. Those aside, how do we go about creating this from a grassroots level?
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:22 PM
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1. Volunteer for the 06 midterm House elections
If we can take back the House, then we can introduce Articles of Impeachment. Until then, we have to forget it.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:31 PM
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7. As I said
I'm not looking for this. I know this. Let's think outside the usual box.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:22 PM
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2. Cards stacked against us? We don't even have a deck.
There is not one Republican or most ther chicken-ass dems who would want to go through this.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:30 PM
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6. Arlen Specter?
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:23 PM
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3. Get the fundies to realize that they are a tool
and that their Gawdly man in the White House is a sinner. They will then join the crusade to get him out. We need a secret service guy to cough up a video of Bush doing Condi while snorting cocaine, taking the Lord's name in vain, looking at kiddie porno, and dancing.

Come to think of it, even that wouldn't work. They would just say that God's will is unknowable and forgive him.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:24 PM
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4. and the asses in the House would forgive him
the way they have Bugman DeLay. The Senate is "do-able" in terms of turning some moderates to our side, but the House is absolutely in lockstep with Jackass.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:33 PM
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8. I'm aware of all that
I guess what I'm asking is whether there are some loopholes somewhere. Someway, we can get this going other than the usual steps.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:39 PM
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9. No, there are not,
no matter how "outside-the-box" you think. some things just aren't possible given the existing circumstances. Hey, we're Democrats, not magicians.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:40 PM
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10. Time to learn magic, then.
Because this doom and gloom is something we are really good at, but it hasn't helped yet!
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 05:07 PM
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16. this was my thought, too n/t
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:26 PM
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5. Been thinking about this myself
First, I don't think it is impossible to get impeachment proceedings started in the house. Difficult, yes, but there are some people that are really beginning to question the sanity of the (mis)administration. The movement would have to be led by a respected Republican house member... who has nothing to lose.

Then, you have to start in the right place, and I believe that is with Cheney rather than Bush. Or do simultaneous impeachments.

In addition, Rove has to go. That one's tricky, but essential.

There are others who have to be curtailed in one way or another at the same time. Keep DeLay tied up with his indictments, for instance.
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JaneDoughnut Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:43 PM
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11. I know!
What if we sent some cute intern to seduce Bush and then leaked it to the press? Wouldn't the Repugs start impeachment proceedings themselves?

Sorry, I realize you weren't joking, but it would be nearly impossible to get an impeachment with the current Congress.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:44 PM
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13. LOL
if only they would... but you know better than that...
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:47 PM
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14. Ha!
Condi, er, Laura would kick her ass!
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:44 PM
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12. even if we got bush out....
is cheney any better?

Anyway, I think we would only validate the view that democrats are whiners....
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:49 PM
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15. Call me a whiner all you want
I want Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rice, Rumsfeld and a few others whose names blessedly escape me right now frog marched out of the Whitehouse. I suppose you could say I'm wanting this because I'm a vengeful partisan, but you would be wrong. I want this because they are criminals, fascists and they are about to destroy the country I live in.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 05:23 PM
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20. Well if Bush goes, Cheney would go also. Cheney resigns and testifies
against Bush to keep himself out of the pokey. Then we have .... Hastert. Shit! But by that time the Repubs are so demoralized and scandal-ridden that a Dem is a shoo-in in 08.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 05:10 PM
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17. the cards aren't just stacked
there isn't even a game, that is, no cards will be dealt unless the balance of power in the House changes in 2006 and that is about as likely as the bushturd becoming competent.
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nostalgicaboutmyfutr Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 05:10 PM
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18. keep in mind even Nixon lost support fo republicans....eom
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 05:17 PM
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19. So, then
We should assemble a list of moderate Republicans in Congress and start, ahem, re-educating them, yes?
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