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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:16 PM
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Donna Brazile: Candidates to Lead DNC 'Not Up to the Task'
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 11:18 PM by Uncle_Ho_Ho
by Robert B. Bluey
Posted Nov 23, 2004

Democrat consultant Donna Brazile told HUMAN EVENTS she wouldn't seek her party's leadership post at the Democratic National Committee, and declined to offer an endorsement, calling the current slate of candidates inadequate...


Besides Brazile, two other prominent Democrats also withdrew from consideration this week. Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, a possible presidential candidate in 2008, and Alexis Herman, a secretary of Labor under former President Bill Clinton, said they weren't interested.

The New York Times reported Tuesday that possible candidates include former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, former Clinton chief of staff Harold Ickes, former Dallas Mayor Ron Kirk, former Denver Mayor Wellington Webb, New Democratic Network President Simon Rosenberg, and former YES Network Chairman Leo Hindery, Jr.

After withholding her endorsement Tuesday, Brazile told HUMAN EVENTS she hopes other Democrats step forward in the coming weeks, and those currently in the running accentuate their plans.


http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=5876

Rumors that Brazile is running or endorsed anyone of the current candidates for the position are false. She has stated that none of the curent people who are in the current people who are running are capable of handling the job.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:19 PM
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1. And the reasons I should listen to Donna Brazile are...?
About the most worthless spokesperson we have, in my view.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:21 PM
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2. Talk about an ineffective
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 11:22 PM by fujiyama
speaker.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:25 PM
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3. Really. I could care less what her opinion is.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:27 PM
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5. Brazile would be a failure as a Jenny Craig spokesperson
as she was a failure as Gore's campaign manager. She is also a lying sack of shit!
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:27 PM
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4. Donna knows inadequate. Up close and personal. :-)
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:31 PM
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9. Well she has actualy personally run campaigns directly
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 11:32 PM by Uncle_Ho_Ho
Which is more than can be said for one of the candidates for the position. Dean has no directl experieice running a presidential campaign. Ickes has a good deal of experience running them. Several, very successfully. Lets see, how many times has Den run a successful national campaign. Exactly none. Given the problems the party has had, it might do well to choose someone who has run winning campaigns.
Even Brazile won Gore the popular vote.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:52 PM
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11. Dean Dean Dean
Have you made a pilgrimage to VT yet?
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:13 AM
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14. Been to Vermont a number of times
Lived there for a year before Dean Wal-Marted it.

Was a nice place back then.

Realistically, Dean did a terrible job. Took an an apparent lead in the polls, and ran it into the ground. Went from getting 74 percent of the vote in Vermont in his first election, to almost having the choice sent to the Vermont legislature (up until the last week, Dean polled under the required number of votes required to win, ended up winning by only a few hundres votes.). Democrats have never recovered from Deans governorship. The Vermont Progressive Party was formed y liberal Dmeocrats as a result of Deans conservative leadership of the Democratic Party, and year after year, the Demoocrats lost mosre and more of the percentage of the votes in elections, while the percentage of the votes that Progressives took away from Democrats justt got larger and larger. In 2000 Progressive Anthony Pollina took 10 percent of the vote away from Dean which amounts to 20 percent of the totally left leaning vote In 2002. Pollina ran for Lt Governor and took 25 percent of the vote in that race. The Democrats took 33 percent in that race and only 34 in the Governors race. NOt much has changed in the Reeublican share of the votes. In the 2000 the REpublican running against Dean took 38 percent of the vote. In 2002, th Republican only got 43 percent of the vote, not a big increase compared to the one party growing at leaps and bounds at the expense of theDemocratic ticket. This party was formed in 1992, but Liberal Democrats who first thought Dean would act like a Democrat, and who decided to leave the party as Dean started opposing the Democratic Party and owrking with the most conservatrive elements of the Democratic Party, as well as the REpublicans. So within a yer, the Progressive Party is sending its first elected candidate to the U.S. House of Representatives (Bernie Sanders) and from then on in, opposing Deans conservative administration, strts unseating Democrats in the state legislature. Half of all of the third party state legislators in the United States are in Vermont, and Progressive Party candidates. Again, it was in response to Dean, response to his conservative policies that led to the actual creation of the Progressive Party in Vermont, and the loss of seats long held by Democrats to the Progressives. In a state that gave Kerry 59 percent of the vote, and where 59 percent of the votes are always cast for the left side of the political spectrum, the Republicans have been able to keep the Governors position, as well as the Lt Governors position, with considerably less than half of the vote. Dena repetatively attacked the liberals nad progressives in Vermont and they wil no longer have truck wth the Democratic Party in that state. When he compared them to communists and openly spoke of his wish that liberal democratic candidates would lose their re-election bids. he did not endear himself to the Progressives, in order to form aco-alition against REpublicans. So they are in power in that state and it looks like they will stay in power for a good deal of time. Given the fact that the new Democratic Party candidate in Vermont is a liberal Democrat, Pollina decided to step out of the way and not run in 2004. But he clearly stated that it would not have occured if a liberal Democrats was not the candidate.

Facts are that Dean took a state that has a majority of people voting for the left, and caused such dissention between the two parties that it will be a long time before they can get together in a commmon fight against the Republicans.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 12:07 AM
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18.  your statements are the wildest of specious conjecture
Edited on Thu Nov-25-04 12:08 AM by Capn Sunshine
Did you get rejected at a Meetup? Your grudge is as serious as a crush. Sometimes, people need to stop using spraypaint indoors in the winter. How does this affect a burnout consultant who knows she can't get the job, and a burnout polemicist who acts like Howard Dean ran over his dog?

Time will tell

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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:29 PM
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6. Who is she to say and how is Dean not up to it? n/t
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:30 PM
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7. All her statements seem to backhandedly snipe at elements of the party
Who keeps putting her out there, I wonder?
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:53 PM
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12. Anyone who runs a campaign
And in the end cant get enough votes to evenget five percent of the delgates needed to win the nomination is not up to being the person to be the person who will be behing not only the national campaign, but congressional and gubernatorial campaign strategy as well. Dean was put in charge of running the Democratic party's gubernatorial campaigns, selecting and grooming democrats to unseat incumbent Republicans and he didnt do that very well in the 2000 elections around the country. He has had a shot at a leadership position in which camapaign strategy was involved. He didnt handle that very well.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:31 PM
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8. Human Events?
Why is she giving an interview there?

Isn't that the group that Terry Jeffries, the most Fundie of the Fundies is associated with?
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Tangledog Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:35 PM
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10. Why is she talking to Human Events?
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 11:35 PM by Tangledog
Yup, there she is in the link, right under the "buy Ann Coulter's new book" advert. It's not like Human Events is somebody you have to talk to just to get ink.

Just thinking about what a stellar, historic career Donna Brazile has had puts me in a lousy mood. What a Bozo.

On edit: Hiya, Leilani!!

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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:54 PM
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13. Translation
She put out feelers, found she didn't have the support and she is bitter.
Karl was really counting on his friend Donna. He's going to be so disapointed.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:53 AM
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15. Already the Republicans are at it again
Edited on Wed Nov-24-04 12:55 AM by Uncle_Ho_Ho
Stating that they would be very happy if Dean is made the head of the DLC.

They are already happy that the contention that Dean brought to the party made it more difficult for a Democrat to win.

They looked at how depply the left of the political spectrun was split while he was governor of Vermont, and hope he brings the same to Democratic Politics at the national level
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:57 PM
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16. Donna Brazile went all mushy over Condoleeza Rice, from Newsweek
t didn't take long for the image to crystallize into icon last week when President George W. Bush stood before cameras with Condoleezza Rice. "I had chills up and down my spine," Democratic operative Donna Brazile tells NEWSWEEK. "I never thought in my lifetime I'd see an African-American woman being nominated as secretary of State. George Bush made that happen."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6542179/site/newsweek/
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 12:01 AM
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17. WTF is Brazile doing talking to "human events"?
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 12:23 AM
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19. Donna Brazile is inadequate.
She has never impressed me.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 12:26 AM
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20. Donna Brazile: Moron of the Year.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 12:28 AM
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21. Alexis Herman is one sharp woman!
Edited on Thu Nov-25-04 12:29 AM by goclark
She was trained by Ron Bown and I saw her run the Jess Jackson campaign in San Francisco.

IMO, she would be wonderful as the head of the DNC.

Please someone,tell Donna Rove to shut up!
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