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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:52 AM
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Ex FBI/CIA Agents Ready To Blow Bush 911 Cover Story
Edited on Wed Nov-24-04 03:53 AM by roguevalley
Here is an e-mail I got that discusses something that Sibel Edmonds and others are trying to do. I don't know if it was posted ever but it is very interesting. Send it around.

Here is what Sibel uncovered - she found "drug trafficking, money laundering, foreign names and American names directly involved in the financing of the 9-11 attacks on WTC (World Trade Center) and the Pentagon." It was not the Saudis, folks. Americans were involved and Bush does not want you to know that. That exposes the Bush Mythology as the lie that it is.


Ex FBI/CIA Agents Ready To Blow Bush 911 Cover Story

By Karl W. B. Schwarz
Online Journal Contributing Writer
11-21-4

Ex FBI/CIA Agents Ready To Blow Bush 911 Cover Story
Address:http://www.rense.com/general59/esFBICIAagentsready.html

The following is an open letter to Eliot Spitzer, Attorney General for
the State of New York and William Casey, Chief Investigator for the
Attorney General?s Office. In fact, this was hand delivered to Mr.
Spitzer's office before it was published as was a three-part expose I
have written titled Pop Goes the Bush Mythology Bubble. That three-part article will break soon and is in the hands of investigators at this time.

Sibel D. Edmonds was one of the many multilingual translators hired by
our FBI to help track down terrorists and anticipate their next moves.
At least, that was the plan and the purported "job description."

Once Sibel was working inside the FBI she uncovered something, tried to go public with it when Attorney General John Ashcroft and her FBI
superiors would not, and the Bush-Cheney-Ashcroft team slapped a gag
order on her so you could not hear what this lady has to say. What she
has to say directly relates to 9-11 and it totally disputes the Bush
Mythology they want Americans to believe.

So listen up, America. Here is what Sibel uncovered - she found "drug
trafficking, money laundering, foreign names and American names directly involved in the financing of the 9-11 attacks on WTC (World Trade Center) and the Pentagon." It was not the Saudis, folks. Americans were involved and Bush does not want you to know that. That exposes the Bush Mythology as the lie that it is.

Some of the names on our list are also on the list that Sibel Edmonds
knows and found inside the FBI. We came at the problem through telecom
fraud, international securities fraud and kept finding trails that led
to the Caspian Basin, Pakistan, and former BCCI (Bank of Credit and
Commerce) scam artists. Some of you might remember BCCI and that many
called it Bank of Crooks and Criminals International and did so for good cause.

There was something else "odd" about what Sibel Edmonds found. The facts did not surface out of counter-terrorism (Richard Clarke's group); they surfaced out of ongoing investigations by the FBI, some of which date back to 1998.

The following was sent to me and is appearing here with Sibel's
permission. As an American citizen, you need to read it carefully,
think, and understand that for the past 38 months you have been lied to by the Bush administration, the world has been lied to by the Bush
administration, and that 9-11 happened for a reason that will soon be
made known.

You also need to understand that the last thing the 9-11 Commission was looking for was The Truth. Eight of the ten 9-11 Commissioners have so many conflicts of interests, are directly or indirectly benefiting from Bush defense, homeland security and energy policies, they should have never been named to the 9-11 Commission. Their specialties on the 9-11 Commission were not the truth; they were "omission by intent" and "whitewashing."

You also need to come to grips with the fact that it is both sides of
the aisle in Washington that are perpetuating this myth that they want
all Americans and the rest of the world to believe. My next article will expose the conflicts of the eight 9-11 commissioners that should have barred them from even being considered for the job, much less accepting the appointments to be involved in a cover-up.

Here is the letter that Sibel D. Edmonds and 24 other former federal
employees signed and are prepared to tell all to a grand jury. I have
over 200 former federal employees, with some overlap on the signatories below, also willing to tell all to a grand jury.

Date: September 13, 2004

To The Congress of The United States:

The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States
ended its report stating that "We look forward to a national debate on
the merits of what we have recommended, and we will participate
vigorously in that debate." In this spirit, we the undersigned wish to
bring to the attention of the Congress and the people of the United
States what we believe are serious shortcomings in the report and its
recommendations. We thus call upon Congress to refrain from narrow
political considerations and to apply brakes to the race to implement
the commission recommendations. It is not too late for Congress to break with the practice of limiting testimony to that from politicians and top-layer career bureaucrats-many with personal reputations to defend and institutional equities to protect. Instead, use this unique opportunity to introduce salutary reform, an opportunity that must not be squandered by politically driven haste.

Omission is one of the major flaws in the Commission's report. We are
aware of significant issues and cases that were duly reported to the
Commission by those of us with direct knowledge, but somehow escaped
attention. Serious problems and shortcomings within government agencies likewise were reported to the Commission but were not included in the report. The report simply does not get at key problems within the intelligence, aviation security, and law enforcement communities. The omission of such serious and applicable issues and information by itself renders the report flawed, and casts doubt on the validity of many of its recommendations.

We believe that one of the primary purposes of the Commission was to
establish accountability; that to do so is essential to understanding
the failures that led to 9/11, and to prescribe needed changes. However, the Commission in its report holds no one accountable, stating instead "our aim has not been to assign individual blame." That is to play the political game, and it shows that the goal of achieving unanimity overrode one of the primary purposes of this Commission's establishment. When calling for accountability, we are referring not to quasi-innocent mistakes caused by "lack of imagination" or brought about by ordinary "human error." Rather, we refer to intentional actions or inaction by individuals responsible for our national security, actions or inaction dictated by motives other than the security of the people of the United States. The report deliberately ignores officials and civil servants who were, and still are, clearly negligent and/or derelict in their duties
to the nation. If these individuals are protected rather than held
accountable, the mindset that enabled 9/11 will persist, no matter how
many layers of bureaucracy are added, and no matter how much money is
poured into the agencies. Character counts. Personal integrity, courage, and professionalism make the difference. Only a commission bent on holding no one responsible and reaching unanimity could have missed that.

We understand, as do most Americans, that one of our greatest strengths in defending against terrorism is the dedication and resourcefulness of those individuals who work on the frontlines. Even before the Commission began its work, many honest and patriotic individuals from various agencies came forward with information and warnings regarding terrorism-related issues and serious problems within our intelligence and aviation security agencies. If it were not for these individuals, much of what we know today of significant issues and facts surrounding 9/11 would have remained in the dark. These "whistleblowers" were able to put the safety of the American people above their own careers and jobs, even though they had reason to suspect that the deck was stacked against them. Sadly, it was. Retaliation took many forms: some were ostracized; others were put under formal or informal gag orders; some were fired. The commission has neither acknowledged their contribution nor faced up to the urgent need to protect such patriots against retaliation by the many bureaucrats who tend to give absolute priority to saving face and protecting their own careers.

The Commission did emphasize that barriers to the flow of information
were a primary cause for wasting opportunities to prevent the tragedy.
But it skipped a basic truth. Secrecy enforced by repression threatens
national security as much as bureaucratic turf fights. It sustains
vulnerability to terrorism caused by government breakdowns. Reforms will be paper tigers without a safe channel for whistleblowers to keep them honest in practice. It is unrealistic to expect that government workers will defend the public, if they can't defend themselves. Courage is the exception, not the rule. Unfortunately, current whistleblower rights are a cruel trap and magnet for cynicism. The Whistleblower Protection Act has turned into an efficient way to finish whistleblowers off by endorsing termination. No government workers have access to jury trials like Congress enacted for corporate workers after the Enron/MCI debacles. Government workers need genuine, enforceable rights just as much to protect America's families, as corporate workers do to protect
America's investments. It will take congressional leadership to fill
this hole in the 9/11 Commission's recommendations.

The Commission, with its incomplete report of "facts and circumstances," intentional avoidance of assigning accountability, and disregard for the knowledge, expertise and experience of those who actually do the job, has now set about pressuring our Congress and our nation to hastily implement all its recommendations. While we do not intend to imply that all recommendations of this report are flawed, we assert that the Commission's list of recommendations does not include many urgently needed fixes, and further, we argue that some of their recommendations, such as the creation of an "intelligence czar," and haphazard increases in intelligence budgets, will lead to increases in the complexity and confusion of an already complex and highly bureaucratic system.

Congress has been hearing not only from the commissioners but from a
bevy of other career politicians, very few of whom have worked in the
intelligence community, and from top-layer bureaucrats, many with vested interests in saving face and avoiding accountability. Congress has not included the voices of the people working within the intelligence and broader national security communities who deal with the real issues and problems day-after-day and who possess the needed expertise and experience-in short, those who not only do the job but are conscientious enough to stick their necks out in pointing to the impediments they experience in trying to do it effectively.

We the undersigned, who have worked within various government agencies
(FBI, CIA, FAA, DIA, Customs) responsible for national security and
public safety, call upon you in Congress to include the voices of those with first-hand knowledge and expertise in the important issues at hand. We stand ready to do our part.

Respectfully,

Costello, Edward J. Jr., Former Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI
Cole, John M., Former Veteran Intelligence Operations Specialist, FBI
Conrad, David "Mark," Retired Agent in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S.
Customs
Dew, Rosemary N., Former Supervisory Special Agent, Counterterrorism & Counterintelligence, FBI
Dzakovic, Bogdan, Former Red Team Leader, FAA
Edmonds, Sibel D., Former Language Specialist, FBI
Elson, Steve, Retired Navy Seal & Former Special Agent, FAA & US Navy
Forbes, David, Aviation, Logistics and Govt.
Security Analysts, BoydForbes, Inc.,
Goodman, Melvin A., Former Senior Analyst/
Division Manager, CIA; Senior Fellow at the
Center for International Policy
Graf, Mark, Former Security Supervisor, Planner,
& Derivative Classifier, Department of Energy
Graham, Gilbert M., Retired Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI
Kleiman, Diane, Former Special Agent, US Customs
Kwiatkowski, Karen U., Lt. Col. USAF (ret.), Veteran Policy Analyst-DoD
Larkin, Lynne A., Former Operation Officer, CIA
MacMichael, David, Former Senior Estimates Officer, CIA
McGovern, Raymond L., Former Analyst, CIA
Pahle, Theodore J., Retired Senior Intelligence Officer, DIA
Sarshar, Behrooz, Retired Language Specialist, FBI
Sullivan, Brian F., Retired Special Agent & Risk Management Specialist, FAA
Tortorich, Larry J., Retired US Naval Officer, US
Navy & Dept. of Homeland Security/TSA
Turner, Jane A., Retired Special Agent, FBI
Vincent, John B., Retired Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI
Whitehurst, Dr. Fred, Retired Supervisory Special
Agent/Laboratory Forensic Examiner, FBI
Wright, Ann, Col. US Army (ret.); and Former Foreign Service officer
Zipoli, Matthew J., Special Response Team (SRT) Officer, DOE

CC:

Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Chairman
Pat Roberts & Vice Chairman John D. Rockefeller
Senate Committee on the Judiciary, Chairman Orrin
G. Hatch & Ranking Democratic Member Patrick Leahy
Senate Committee on Armed Services, Chairman John
Warner & Ranking Member Carl Levin
Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs,
Chairman Susan Collins & Ranking Member Joseph Lieberman
House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,
Chairman Porter J. Goss & Ranking Member Jane Harman
House Committee on the Judiciary, Chairman F.
James Sensenbrenner, Jr. & Ranking Member John
Conyers
House Armed Services Committee, Chairman Duncan
Hunter & Ranking Member Ike Skelton
House Committee on Government Reform, Chairman
Tom Davis & Ranking Member Henry A. Waxman
House Select Committee on Homeland Security,
Chairman Christopher Cox & Ranking Member Jim
Turner
Senator Charles Grassley

For the record, Congress has not made a move to address the foregoing.
As we are all witnessing right now, whistleblowers that would make the
system stay honest are being strongly discouraged and even purged from
federal employment. In a recent memo by new CIA Director Porter Goss,
one of those involved in the 9-11 cover-up and one of the three persons (Senators Graham and Kyl, Congressman Goss) that Pakistan ISI head Lt.Col. Mahmood Ahmed was meeting with in Washington when 9-11 happened, issued this warning to CIA employees. Remember that it was this Pakistani lieutenant colonel that wired $100,000 to Mohammed Atta
shortly before 9-11.

GOSS MEMO MANDATES CIA EMPLOYEES TO SUPPORT BUSH POLICIES
Tue Nov 16 2004

Porter Goss, the new intelligence chief, has told Central Intelligence
Agency employees that their job is to "support the administration and
its policies in our work," a copy of the internal memorandum shows. The NEW YORK TIMES is planning to lead Wednesday's paper with the memo, newsroom sources tell DRUDGE.

MORE

"As agency employees we do not identify with, support or champion
opposition to the administration or its policies," Goss said in the
memorandum, which was circulated late on Monday. He said in the document that he was seeking "to clarify beyond doubt the rules of the road."

That, ladies and gentlemen, is "Controlling the Mythology" and silencing dissent so they can continue to operate our government above the law and in secret.

I do not have subpoena powers, but Eliot Spitzer does and some, if not
all, of the above facts and sets of circumstances warrant being looked
into. He is welcome to everything we have on 9-11 matters and the RICO
investigations that led to the facts that are presented in my book.

The US Government has put their mythology on the table and apparently
many (89 percent in the CNN poll) are not buying it. The foregoing has
yet to be investigated and how the trails all started converging on 9-11 and NYC without having to guide them that way might be very telling.

Please sign the Justicefor9-11.org petition if you, too, demand the
truth and justice regarding September 11, 2001. There is much truth to
be found and we have a national capital that is full of people that have an aversion to the truth. It is time that we as American Citizens get to the bottom of what they fear so much and why they fear the truth.

It is time for all Americans to wake up
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 04:00 AM
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1. I want the MSM all over this one
but NOT at the expense of the VOTE FRAUD that is tearing down the last vestiges of Democracy.

I will wake up to it again after our fresh fish is fried.
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chicagojoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 04:04 AM
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2. Went to the link.
"This page cannot be found".
This is no surprise.
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Starfury Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 04:14 AM
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4. Try this link....
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 04:13 AM
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3. Is your link defective?
Or did someone take the site down?
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 05:06 AM
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7. the link in the OP is wrong: "html" instead of "htm" at end (nt)
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 05:00 AM
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5. I will believe it when I see it and not before
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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 05:05 AM
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6. Anybody remember the Pentagon attack theory?
This is the one where the Pentagon was not hit by the jetliner, but by either a cruise missle or a jet fighter. If this is true, we may need to dig that one up again. Somehow I always wondered if this was a staged event.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 09:33 AM
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8. You know why I don't want to believe this?
If Bush is involved with a cover-up to hide the names of US Corporations that were involved in 9/11, and if those US Corporations paid even a penny to his re-election, then Bush would be guilty of treason.

I don't launch words out there easily. If this is true then we have an offense that will begin a process that starts with impeachment. And if the Republicans refuse to impeach Bush, they are equally part of the cover-up.

It would be the beginning of the end to our high moral foundation hypocrites.

And do you know why I don't want to believe this? Because it would require more effort from us than sitting in a lean-back office chairs, typing on the keyboard.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:12 AM
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9. I believe it. I've always said that 9-11 has its roots in BCCI and that is
why they would do anything to block Kerry, the man who exposed BCCI's criminality, from taking office.

This is also why when a 9-11 commission was finally appointed, Bush charged that they must only go back to 1998. Imagine if the commission was able to go back as far as necessary.....Alot of the same names from BCCI manage to pop up in 9-11 and behind-the-scenes on Iraq policy.

George Bush and his thugs are definitely traitors to this country and to the Constitution.
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:26 PM
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16. BINGO!
That's the connection I've been trying to make. Do you have a link or a book you can point me to that you'd especially recommend on this exact subject?
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 05:05 PM
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22. Have you seen this article?
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/112504Madsen/112504madsen.html

<snip>
Other money used to fund the election rigging was from siphoned Enron money stored away in accounts in the Cook Islands, which was once the base of one of the more questionable and Saudi-linked BCCI subsidiaries. Cook Islands banks also handled some of the weapons smuggling financing of the Iran-Contra scandal. A former Justice Department attorney who helped prosecute the BCCI case said the use of the Cook Islands by the Bush reelection team indicates they wanted the bank arrangements to be a "quick folding tent" operation that would cease to exist when the election was over. He said the Cook Islands was notorious for not requiring any documentation for such operations.
<snip>

I forwarded the content of the article to my two Democratic senators, one of whom was the first to demonstrate the link between Enron corruption and the CA energy crisis. We need to force Congress to investigate these things further.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 03:53 PM
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24. This "laundry" has been around for a long time !
Edited on Sat Nov-27-04 03:54 PM by EVDebs
This Cook Is. laundry has been around for awhile. Read Martin Lee's book "Acid Dreams". Windsor CA LSD labs with Nick Sand http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/books/belcont.htm
in Sonoma County CA as the start of the money laundering...Also mentioned in "Inside Job: The Looting of America's S&L's" . These books are questionable in themselves since the link to the Cook Is. is not mentioned by name. The guy was allowed to leave the country for the Cooks...

BTW, one of the authors of "Inside Job" Mary Fricker doesn't mention that she was the daughter-in-law of the ambassador to Italy (the end point for the money laundering to shore up NATO's southern flank). This would be the widow of Glenn Dill Mann, adopted son of Graham A. Martin, former Ambassador to Thailand (read Golden Triangle) -- Glenn was KIA in Vietnam in Nov 1965 just after the Ia Drang battles.
http://www.vvmf.org/index.cfm?SectionID=110&Wall_Id_No=32210

Back then the money was being laundered thru Panama (which uses the dollar as currency and during Iran Contra was being used also). Cook Is. had a 'scare' with Russian subs supposedly looking for Pacific base there...
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:18 PM
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14. Maybe we should learn from the Ukrainians.
I'll be out on the street if you are.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 06:40 PM
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20. It does seem like the Bush Administration support it.
Then, why not?
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:24 AM
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10. Going public?
Unfortunately, I don't see any investigative reporters in MSM willing to take on the administration.

This will be considered just another tin-foil-hat theory.

When are they going to go public and name names?
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:29 PM
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26. Smoking guns....
Oddly, the screw-up agency (the CIA for you uninitiated) is getting all the blame for this Mess-o-potamia. The neocons who were conned by Iranian intelligence via Chalabi, which operation was called "a beautiful piece of work, and I respect good work" by a retired US intell guy ususally seen on PBS's newshour with DIA background--his name escapes me.

This is truly the smoking gun, since this is the agency whose real patriots on the inside TRIED to tell the truth. I refer to "Anonymous" and the others like Ray McGovern's group VIPS. They knew, just like Daniel Ellsberg did back in the '60s-'70s that this war in Iraq was a 'lose lose' proposition. It took crazy neocon stovepiping and end-runs around rational operatives and counselors for the Bush team to foist this plan, much like the Operation Northwoods on which it is based--a plan from the late '50s-early '60s devised to allow sacrificial killing of US citizens in terror attacks by US military and blame Castro/Cuba for it giving pretext for war.

Further oddness is that we systematically destroyed Iraqi wastewater facilities in order to deprive Saddam of chlorine (which could be used in WMDs)...yet now we are building said same plants. Why not allow for composting toilets and save the wastewater from being wasted in the first place ...? Nutz.

No tin foil hats required, just process of elimination and common sense tells you who was involved in this fiasco.

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poppet Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:37 AM
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11. Is this related to the CIA
report on 9/11 that was suppressed before the election?

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/102004V.shtml

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/102104Y.shtml

I was wondering if the CIA report now has been released since it is post-election? Does anyone know?
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mutius Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:21 PM
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12. Link has been cut off!
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:54 PM
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18. links works fine
--you need to knock the "l" off of the end of the original poster's link
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bones_7672 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:28 PM
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13. This story was right next to the ones about
"Nostradamus predicts ..."

"Aliens Forced Me to Have Sex"

"JFK Alive And Playing Bingo In Fort Meyers"

garbage, garbage, garbage!
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:21 PM
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15. I didn't see that
The site look and feel is a little crazy, but the stories seemed legit.
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:29 PM
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17. Rense.com
has equal measures of legit and off-the-wall stories. It is pretty anti-semitic, seemingly. I've been visiting the site for years, because he'll often come up with some tidbit I haven't seen elsewhere, but, as always, caveat lector.
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one_true_leroy Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:01 PM
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19. ppppfffftttt
this has been 'breaking' for years, it seems. MSM never touches this kinda stuff.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 04:47 PM
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21. Ptech = Saudi software co working w/ FAA and Intell
Ptech, a Saudi software company with access to FAA and intelligence computer systems prior to , during and after 9-11-01, is part of a whistleblower investigation brought on by Indira Singh. http://www.madcowprod.com website's archived this story and how the Boston FBI office has botched this investigation. If you tie in the wargames (see http://www.oilempire.us/wargames.html ) and the FAA access to make use of those wargames....then you get the scenario mentioned in "Crossing the Rubicon" by Michael Ruppert.
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xerox Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:10 PM
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23. can't wait
will make me feel great!
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mbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 05:00 PM
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25. Get the popcorn ready because Eliot Spitzer is the guest on
Bill Moyers NOW next week! Can't wait to hear this interview.
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