Donna Brazile In Newsweek - What's Up With Her?

[Dinger]

In the Nov. 29th edition of Newsweek, Donna Brazile says "I had chills up and down my spine" refering to CONdi rice when she stood before cameras with bu$h . . . "I never thought in my lifetime I'd see an African American woman being nominated aas secretary of state. Goerge Bu$h made that happen."
Despite her poor attempt to bitch-slap the Dems, Elijah Cummings isn't worried. He says "We're the Democrats' most consistent and most loyal constutuency."

Is it me, or can Donna kiss my ass?

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. No, I agree.

Donna is a Quisling suckup. She should just go have her lips surgically attached to her lunch buddy Rove's cloacal vent and be done with it and the Democratic Party.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

9. LOL!

"Cloacal vent" -- KKKarl is a reptile, for sure.

[Andromeda]

21. Hmm, have you been watching

the Crocodile Hunter?

[Chimpanzee]

2. She reminds me of Dick Morris, but I don't remember why! n/t

[blondeatlast]

3. the phrase "turncoat" seems apt for both, could that have something

to do with it?

[ooglymoogly]

26. she is licking her chops hoping for some appointment. n/t

[buff2]

4. It's not just you

If she's a true democrat,then I'm the virgin Mary. She should switch parties....I think she would be more comfortable as a water carrying repuke. I can't stand the bitch.

[Dinger]

5. She Was On Crossfire Today, Kissin' Bay Buchanan's Ass

Disgusting

[Chimpanzee]

80. I've seen her

She is disgusting. Is Mary Matalin her twin?

[trayfoot]

10. No, it isn't just you

Brazile has never impressed me as a democratic leader - even as she worked for Al. She is not a good speaker, not quick on her feet (Buchanan can run rings around her). If she said this about Condi, then she should be history in the democratic party. And to think, there are some who would want her as DNC Chair?????????????????

[Demoiselle]

12. It's just Show Bidness, friends....

They're all in show bidness. There is no honorable presentation of liberal Democratic values on tv.....Ms. Brazile and all her buddies of the left and right ....Carville, Begala, Carlson (both of them) Novak, etc. are all just building their portfolios of public appearances, , increasing their "profiles" so more people will put them on tv to spout mindless bullshit . That's what our national cozy meaningless communications network is all about....blah blah blah...pretend to distribute information and informed opinion....while you blur all the distinctions and truths with utter bilge. There is no presentation of truth anymore on TV. Our great newspapers have become cautious and pliant as well. THERE IS NO FREE PRESS ANYMORE. It's all entertainment. Bread and circuses, folks. More outrage expressed at that little dustup at the basketball game than all the voter fraud in the country.

[Cha]

6. Does anyone want to e-mail donna

and remind her that condi is a proven liar?..Aaron McGruder calls condi .."Darth Vader"..9/11 happened when condi was National Security Advisor..for crissake!


[e-mail]

[goclark]

30. Aaron was right!

I tried that link and it came right back.

[Cha]

31. Sorry, that's the only e-mail

I could find for her..maybe she's cut off her address from what's listed on the web.

[goclark]

32. Mayabe she knew what was coming from us- LOL

[calimary]

42. Here's what I just sent her...

Dear Donna,

As a lifelong Democrat, I keep hoping when I see you that I will see a loyal Democrat with spine, who will stand up to the soulless fascists who've taken over our country and are hoping to trash everything we believe in. Yet, time after time, you roll straight over and let 'em wipe their feet all over you. You let them get the best of you on ANY pundits' panel. Your responses are sadly lackluster. Your reactions are nearly nonexistent. Your "leadership" is pathetic.

PLEASE do us all a favor and reregister as the republi-CON you genuinely are, deep-down. I know they "won" again, and everyone likes to sidle up to a winner. So go ahead. But PLEASE stop calling yourself a Democrat.

Because if YOU are what a Democrat is supposed to be, then I no longer want to be one.

Besides, even YOU would have made a better choice for black female Secretary of State than Ms. "nobody could have IMAGINED..." Rice.

Yours in disgust (because I expected SO much more from a woman as supposedly educated, accomplished, and illustrious as you),

(me)

[Dinger]

43. Here Here Calimary

Well said. You do have a way with words (that I do not).

[The Backlash Cometh]

7. It sounds like Donna is being won over by the Condi bug.

Condi didn't grow up to be a Democrat because a Dixiecrat took her daddy's vote away from him. She became Republican because of that experience. And yet this so called intelligent woman became Republican despite the fact that the Dixiecrats began changing their party affiliation to Republican many years ago.

So, there she is, the Republicans pleased as punch to dress her up and make her appear to be a success, and she thinks she earned it on her own. Donna Brazille is probably getting seduced by the attention. That's how Bush works his charm. He bribes lavishly.

[AmerDem]

8. She has been saying many things lately

That are direct slaps across the face of Dems. Recently she was co host with Tucker "bowtie" Carlson on Crossfire when Carlson showed a poll naming Michael Moore the least liked celebrity. She actually commented saying words like "we don't want to hear anymore from his ugly fat butt", mind you this is almost an exact quote.

At this point I think it almost a sure thing her words and actions now are out of desperation to earn a living anywhere she can including any repuke group crazy enough to higher her. I also read here many times that she is very close friends with KKKarl Rove.

[Career Prole]

11. "we don't want to hear anymore from his ugly fat butt"

This old saw about "pots" and "kettles" came to mind just now...not sure why. :eyes:
If Ms. Brazile is enamored of the repuke life let her go. In fact, I hope they make her a campaign manager.

[AmerDem]

13. I kid you not

Carlson actually replied back to her with .."i'm glad you're starting to see thing clearly now'....not quite an exact quote.

..and your right, talk about calling the kettle black!

[okieinpain]

52. why are you guy's hating donna, she is just stating a fact. you

might not like it but bush has just nominated the first hispanic AG, and the First AA sos. what you going to say if he nominates another black to the scotus, and makes nut case those head justice.

you might not like these nut cases, but to the sheeple, he's doing more the kerry, or gore. hell he will look more liberal then clinton. check my old post I've been complaining for a while that all of kerry's spokespersons on tv were white. don't think that I'm the only one that picked up on that.

[AmerDem]

53. wtf does this have to do with Michale Moore?

Why didn't you discuss the issue I brought up? Brazille attacked Moore on a very personal level ( as if she is anyone to call someone names). Moore did more to help getting shrub out of office then the collective leadership of our entire party and this is the thanks he gets? Her smear against him was following in-line with a major talking point that has been pushed by the repukes before F911 was even in the theaters.

Read through this thread and you will get a very good understanding of what many of us have known about Brazille dating back to her dreaded campaign for Gore.

[okieinpain]

59. gee, your post was about donna, being impressed with condi

getting sos nom. where are the comments about micheal moore in any of the post.

[AmerDem]

61. did you read any of this thread?

"Where are my comments about Michael Moore in any of the posts?" Well you might want to try this link , it happens to be the main topic you replied to.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1391320&mesg_id=1391339&page=

[wurzel]

14. Sounds a bit "racist" to me.

Why would nominating an incompetant like Rice "send chills" up anyone's spine? Unless she mean't chills of fear. Which she clearly didn't.

[muse]

17. chills of fear

As I was reading what Brazille said, I really did think she was going to follow up the "chills" thing with a qualifier about what an incompetent, scary person Condi Rice is.

Donna Brazille is garnering entirely too much media face time and I'm not sure why. Do we have such a leadership vacuum in the Democratic party, that she is the only one available or accessible to go out there and be interviewed and quoted in the mainstream media?

It's time for her to go. Away.

[shoopnyc123]

15. Donna is a sick woman...

...only concerned with her own gain.

[LittleClarkie]

19. And this is the person who's word we were taking on Kerry's nestegg

I won't believe anything she has to say until I have proof. Strange woman.

[robbedvoter]

29. That was definitely blackberried by brother Karl.

I suspected her motives. But I also didn't like kerry's.

[Tennessee Gal]

16. She is one of the things Gore did wrong.

Just my opinion and I love Gore.

[surfermaw]

20. Same thought I had the day fater the Gore election.

[papau]

18. I like seeing someone advance that looks like what I see in the mirror - ?

this is bad to say?

I grant you I would perfer her to also tear Condi apart on Condi's GOP always scewing minorities and the non-rich.

But why is the Newsweek comment so bad?

[goclark]

66. Condi is like what Donna sees in the mirror

They are both Crooks for Bush.

I am so mad at Donna right now that I am starting to believe that she and Joey LIEberman were working with ROVE in 2000!

[kaitykaity]

22. It's be great if condi were qualified to do the job.

She's not.

[Stinky The Clown]

23. Elijah Cummings is **my** Congressman, and I'm proud to say that.

[Dinger]

44. Yes, He Is A Real Man And A Real Dem - God Bless Him

[journalist3072]

24. Donna Brazile

Well, I think you all are being to hard on Donna Brazile. Let's face it, she grew up in an era where she probably felt she would NEVER see an African-American rise to that level of prominance in the United States.

However, this is what I think she should have added to that. She should have issued a challenge to Condi Rice to do something about issues of concern in the African-American community, such as the genocide happening in Darfur.

I'm an African-American woman, and I'm not impressed by the fact that Condi Rice is also African-American. Why? Because she hasn't used her position in the government to help lift up her community.

[Ellen Forradalom]

28. I'm not impressed either

because the greatest lapse of national security in our history happened on her watch. That doesn't suggest competence to me.

[Dinger]

45. Yes, She Should Have Added To What She Said

I agree, but either she didn't or Newsweek left it out. Makes me wonder...

[robbedvoter]

25. She is Karl Rove's buddy - as documented years ago

They blackberry each other and joked on selection 2000. She is a big help with the "they are taking us for granted" BS meme that jackson jr was spewing recently.
here's the article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/21/politics/21BRAZ.html?ex=1101618000&en=2e16060287c77c4f&ei=5070&oref=login&ei=5062&en=3e195a743382c294&ex=1046494800&partner=GOOGLE&pagewanted=print&position=top

[StClone]

27. Bushshit is working

Put a Condi out there make it look like her voice is heard and heeded, when nothing is further from the truth in BushCo, and admirers will soon appear. Smart move by Bush, though it's pretty evident it's all for show. She sycophantic, out going Powell was not.

[leyton]

33. I don't get it - what's wrong with what Donna said?

Nothing she said is false or implies anything false. Let's see what she said.

"I had chills up and down my spine."

I read this as chills of fear. I mean, when I get excited, I don't get chilly. If you do, go see a doctor.

"I never thought in my lifetime I'd see an African American woman being nominated aas secretary of state."

She probably never did thing that. And Condi Rice is indeed African American, and she is a woman, and she has been nominated to secretary of state.

"Goerge Bu$h made that happen."

Well, I don't think that's the correct spelling of his name, but he is the one that nominated her.

What in the world are you guys all worked up about?

[robbedvoter]

35. Uh, let's try it slowly. Condi replaced an African-American man,

generally considered more competent then Condi. NOBODY in their right mind, i don't care what color considers Condi replacing Powell an improvement of any kind. To actually piaise Bush for it, is pandering of the oiliest kind. While you slept, Condi messed up big on 911 - to only bring up her most glaring reason to be HELD ACCOUNTABLE, NOT REWARDED And this coming from Donna, the woman who agreed with Kopel that blacks in Florida are dumb voting-wise and it;s the democrats ' fault for not ...educating them.

[leyton]

36. Uh, let's reread my post.

Nowhere in my post do I defend Condi, who is obviously worse than Powell. I just point out that I don't interpret Donna Brazile's statement as particularly joyful.

Why are people here so effing quick to lecture others on how bad the Bush administration is when that's really not even the topic at hand?

[Dinger]

47. O.K., That's Your Interpretation, BUT

the part of your post that irritates me, or concerns me, correctly or incorrectly, this:

"Why are people here so effing quick to lecture others on how bad the Bush administration is...."

Well, they are bad, and indirectly, that is the point about giving CONdi the job.

Also, bu$h is my little way of disrespecting this misadministration and it's leader. I never capitalize his name either - he does not deserve that consideration after all he has done to this country, and will do to this country in the future.

[leyton]

63. I realize they're bad, and how you spell it doesn't matter to me.

I'm just sick of trying to make my point - like we shouldn't be jumping all over Donna Brazile - and have people start lecturing me on the evils of the Bush administration like I don't already know what they are. Yes, I get that Condi is going to do damage, and my point was that Donna Brazile may think so too.

[Dinger]

79. Donna Brazile MAY Think So . . .

After this election was stolen, I don't think this is the time to throw support to the enemy (BuchCo). I see your point, and if it gets tiresome, I'm sorry, but I for one, never tire of bitching about bu$h and his ilk. If it seems like lecturing, that is unintentional.

[robbedvoter]

48. Then your interpretative skills are remarkably twisty. She repeatedly

praised W, especially on this "breakthrough" - a Secretary of state with the right skin pigment, cromozomes to make her proud.

[poppet]

34. On NPR local radio talk show a few weeks ago

I heard Donna Brazile being interviewed. It was on the Jim Engster show in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I think they mentioned she was teaching at Georgetown. Even though she is from LA, she was referring to herself as someone from a blue state (does she now live in Maryland?) with red state values. I had never heard of her before but thought it was odd that she kept saying that: "I am a bluestater with red state values." She also said she couldn't be happier with *'s selection of Rice and Gonzalez. The host asked her a question about them in reference to a negative editorial by M. Dowd that appeared in the NYT that day. I thought Brazile sounded odd - and a bit unprincipled.

[mattclearing]

37. Donna said what???

I have been lurking here for the past year or so, and even moreso since the election.

Did she really say that about those two abominable appointments?

I never got the impression that she was an apologist before, but she failed to respond to my voting irregularities question in the Post chat she had with Peggy Noonan, and it gave me a bad feeling.

I hope that isn't the case.

[AmerDem]

38. explain more about this Post chat

It doesn't surprise me in the least that she totally avoided the voting fraud question but give a bit more detail.

[mattclearing]

71. Post chat w/Peggy Noonan

Donna Brazile and Peggy Noonan did a weekly chat for the election, and their last chat was post election.

I wrote in and asked if she had any thoughts on the many reports of voting problems, particularly the reports of precincts with thousands of votes going to George W. Bush, even when they were well over the number of voters in the precinct in question. I also asked if there was any reason to believe that Bush won fair and square.

It didn't get answered.

And she was really chummy with Peggy Noonan, who was even more smug and self-satisfied than usual.

The transcript is here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13834-2004Oct31.html

[ElectroPrincess]

46. Yes, her true color is shining through and it's GREEN

She's a apologist who loves attention (her alternative to true power) and, of course, the true God (color) for the selfish - MONEY, the mean mean green.

I loved her comments and told my daughter that she's a true role model ... oh, about a year ago. It's my fault because even then she was behaving like a political chameleon. It's my bust for not researching her character in more depth beyond the CNN sound bites.

I will not ever support her again. Her behavior disgusts me, especially since she claims to be a loyal Democrat.

[newyawker99]

55. Hi tasteblind!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Tom Rinaldo]

56. I've emailed her about voter fraud concerns

The impression I have from her is that she has been taking them seriously for at least the last couple of weeks. She is writing something about it which I was told will be published soon. I am curious to see it.

[AP]

39. According to DU'ers she advised that everyone but Dean drop out last

December before the primaries started and he was in first place in the polls.

By the way, what's Gore's problem having her as the campaign manager and Lieberman as the VP nominee?

[Skittles]

40. it's not just you

Donna sucked on her recent Crossfire stint too; sadly, I believe she has lost whatever edge she may have once had.

[calimary]

41. If it's you, it's also ME! ME! ME! Over HERE! ME!

Donna Brazile is an absolute embarrassment. WORSE THAN USELESS. Utterly DISGRACEFUL.

I wish she'd just be honest about it and change her party affiliation. With party leadership like her, we don't need enemies. Seeing her as a talking head, for me, is almost as revolting an experience as watching bushie-boy.

[robbedvoter]

51. Not a matter of honesty. It's her cachee. Like Zell, Koch, she'd be

worthless as a GOP-er. Staing Dem , she is apt of garnering likes such as "Democrats now think W is best, advances minorities"
Can you imagine the PR coup if she'd land the DNC chairman position?
(Frankly, I think she knows she lost that, so she's back to the blackmail lingo)

[blondeatlast]

58. I truly believe she is gunning for a TV "pundit" position--

on FAUX.

Think about it.

:puke:

[robbedvoter]

49. Dona on voter fraud (after 2000) as per buddy Karl Rove:

And what would Mr. Rove's boss say about consorting with the enemy?

"She made some generous comments after 9/11 that he deeply appreciated," Mr. Rove said. "She is, first of all, a great American before she's a partisan, and she isn't stuck in the 2000 election."
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/21/politics/21BRAZ.html?ex=1101618000&en=2e16060287c77c4f&ei=5070&oref=login&ei=5062&en=3e195a743382c294&ex=1046494800&partner=GOOGLE&pagewanted=print&position=top

[robbedvoter]

50. Donna on delivering black votes to BFEE:

She also said she believed that through her relationships with Republicans she might be able to broaden their thinking.

"The Republicans are in charge," she said. "I don't want African-Americans to wait four years or eight years for the Democrats to get back in the game before we make progress."
ibidem

[noiretextatique]

65. unfortunately for donna, most black voters don't agree with her

if you lay down with dogs, you get fleas, as my grandmother used to say.

[Tom Rinaldo]

54. Stop eating our own

Brazille is a mixed bag, like most Democrats. James Carville whom some like and some don't is married to Mary Matalin, a key Republican operative. If that isn't fraternizing with the enemy I don't know what is. Bill Clinton just made a bunch of flattering comments about W. People who travel in the political classes have dimensions of commonality with people we think of simply as the opposition or worse, that non professionals do not have. If you bring in race, that is always a complicating factor in American society. I find those critiques made of Brazille made by her fellow African Americans more interesting for that reason, but rivalries exist everywhere.

Here is some strong language Brazille published that I agree with (From Roll Call, November 19th :


"Our core message lies where it always did: the notion that even limited government should help all Americans make the most of their God-given talents or skills; and the idea that the greatest of us has a stake in the success of the least of us; and the idea that all people should be able to live their lives in freedom and security. But we must have enough faith and confidence in the specific positions we take to stand up and argue for those things, and not get caught up in polls and focus groups that can switch overnight.

For example, many Democrats opposed the war in Iraq because we did not believe it was an extension of the war on terror. But many of our leaders were scared to death to stake out that position, and state it clearly, because of poll numbers suggesting it might be unpopular. Indeed, one of the most enduring criticisms of our party is that our leaders have basically become human polling devices, forever sticking their fingers in the wind rather than simply doing what they think is right, and letting the chips fall where they may."

I know not all Democrats agree with that statement either, some think is a slap at people like John Kerry, but Brazille was among the voices pushing Kerry to come out stronger on his core values during the Election race, in a supportive context - she published an opinion piece in the NY Times urging him to "trust his gut" - shortly before Kerry went on the offensive against Bush on Iraq.

I don't always agree with Brazille, I'm not saying she should become the Chair of DNC, but there are real Republicans who I am concerned about, and other pundits to listen to or not as we all see fit.

[robbedvoter]

57. That thing ain't my own. But actually, I am not a Democrat anymore either

so, it all makes sense.

[goclark]

75. Carville is not the same person that worked for Clinton

He has lost his voice in my opinion.

He should check with the Republican that he sleeps with to find out who he is now.

[muse]

77. Agree with not eating our own, but

not with this example of someone who wants to be a spokesperson for our party, involved in the future direction of the Democratic Party and possibly involved in the 2008 presidential campaign. We need to weed out those who are a distraction and move forward with the right leaders. So, in this case, I think it is appropriate to criticize Brazille who many of us do not want speaking for us.

[SoCalDem]

60. Donna is color-blindED..

Might as well ask whether you would rather be eaten by a white shark, or a black one.

Condi has the pigment of a black person, but not the soul.

This is the devious way the repubes work. They use their "minority friends" as props.

To the unschooled masses, it "appears" as though they are colorblind, but they are not..

Michelle Malkin is portrayed as an Asian spokesperson..so is Elaine Chao and that guy Viet Dinh..

They have recruited several black right wingers as spokespeople, but they are presented so that white-folks can pat themselves on the back and say.."See, we ARE inclusive"... but without the money these folks have, they would never be listened to or accepted in white neighborhoods..


It's always about the money... The "people of color" that the right wing push onto the stage,made a choice years ago.. They decided that instead of being "one of many" fighting the good fight, they wanted to be the token, and be well paid for it..

It always cracks me up when they feign indignance when they are called on it.

[robbedvoter]

67. Didn't they use to have a black man as SOS?

It's the chromosomes, stupid!

[mbee]

62. Donna should reserve her chills for when incompetent Condi starts

carrying out the chimps orders which she'll rubberstamp without batting an eyelash!

[noiretextatique]

64. i don't see this as a bitchslap to dems

i think brazille is doing the same type of stupid "positioning" that white politicians do all the time...like kerry's BS about uniting in his concession speech. just because she is black, do not expect her to "denounce" neocondi or her nomination. unless of course we can expect the same thing from kerry regarding bush's "win."

[robbedvoter]

68. I think it was a little beyond a "non-denouncing"

[noiretextatique]

70. so what?

how is this any different from the usual bi-partisan BS bush-praising statements from other democrats? as to denoucing, it was a comment about the tendency of some to expect that from black people when commenting on other black people. and kerry did ask us to unite with the bushistas in his concession speech.

[robbedvoter]

76. It actually is not. They are all equally disgusting.

[noiretextatique]

78. agreed eom

[goclark]

69. She is playing the game

that is not what I fault her for.

Kerry was not tearing the Democrats down in public. She is.

I hate to see her bagging on the Democrats. Four years ago she was one powerful sister! But for the stolen election, she would have been on top of the world with Gore. She , IMO, ran a great campaign for him.

For 4 years I have supported my sister!When she started on CNN, I was looking to her to be a voice for those that could not speak.
Then, WAMMO! she is in Rove's back pocket.

Was she in his pocket all along? I pray not.

My problem is, when you are thisclose to the Democratic party 4 years ago and tightly woven into the secrets of the party, it is a bit fishy to dump on Democrats now and raise Republicans/be they Black or White.

[noiretextatique]

72. i understand the sentiment, and i know her recent history

however, i still don't think the statement quoted qualifies as a bitchslap. she is playing the game...it's unfortunate because she will pay more doing that than some others who are doing the same thing.
as to her effectiveness as a rove tool...LMAO. all the republican hype about attracting black voters was just that...hype. a zillion brazilles won't change that reality.

[goclark]

73. You're so right no bitch slap

I didn't imply that I don't believe.

However it goes now, the sister will take more heat for anything that she says and does than the men that rule this country.

When she looks in the mirror she should know that she is in no way equal. She may be SOMEBODY but the real power rests in the mirrors of the White Men that own America.

May her conscience be as clear as the struggle of her ancestors.

At the end of the day I want to be able to say, "My ancestors would be proud of the way that I spoke out for justice."

[noiretextatique]

74. someone should tell condi, and the rest of 'em about that

:hi: