Would Bush dare turn weapons against Americans?

[lthuedk]

Should this fascist survive any legal challenges and continue his sociopathic quest for power, he will surely be met by those who, according to him, "are not with us." You know, Americans; ordinary people simply responding to a foreign-like power that has invaded us from within using belligerence, fear, and illegitimacy. Will dissent represent treason to the Bush mind?

Bush has lied to kill tens of thousands of innocent people to get at the oil fields of Iraq for the sole purpose of establishing total planetary control just like any generic fascist. He has threatened members of the International Criminal Court with economic punishment, and he has trashed conventions of a civilized world to realize his ambitions. What, other than greed, ego, and madness would promote such behavior?

He has created a police state which has already been used to stifle dissent and create an environment of fear among those he is sworn to protect. Yet, he wants more control. All of this allegedly due to 9/11? I don't buy it. The world's people don't buy it.

And now, with an election as pungent as that of the Ukraine, Bush incredibly points an accusatory finger at someone else's fraud? I think the world's billions of fingers point at Mr Bush.

So, my question is: Would Bush direct his guns at true Americans if they were to non-violently bring his fascist machine to a halt?

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. Yes

no doubt in my mind

As I said in another post, REMEMBER who runs this government the Dr Strangelove administration

Watch that movie... I think they casted Rummy... among others.

[Mist]

2. Yep

[Syrinx]

3. he would not hesitate a second

We're dealing with a true sociopath here.

[Erika]

4. Bush is a Fascist

supported by fringe elements of American society. His allegiance is to global corporatists not American citizens. He has transferred our taxes and wealth to his buds.

[4MoreYearsOfHell]

5. Without a doubt

using the Patriot Act II as a precourse...This POS can not afford to lose power...He is too guilty of crimes against humanity to face the consequences...

And the Limbaugh/Hannity led sheople will follow along via the media...

Not to mention his very good "christian" followers led by Falwell and Robertson..

Joe Lieberman will pitch in as well...

This country is in a world of hurt...those who compare it to Nixon have no idea of the true evil this man esopuses...Nixon, and Hitler were mere pussycats compared to this spawn from hell itself...

Dollar down against the euro again today...No other country on the face of the planet believes in us anymore...

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. just one thing, Nixon was an eagle scout compared to

this man, but Hitler... Bush still has ways to go... not much, but the camps are not YET open... and genocide is not YET official policy... never mind the operatins in Iraq and GITMO, which is far more comparable to the reeducation camps of the 1930s not the Gulags (Soviet Russia) or the Death Camps...

That said, Nixon was an eagle scout.

[4MoreYearsOfHell]

15. Hitler didn't have

nuclear weapons at his disposal...just watch this asswipe...He will find a way to justify using them...

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. Hitler did not have them, but not for lack of trying

and remind me, last time I checked Trumman orderd the nuclear bombimg of two Japanese cities... (and this has nothing to do with whether it was justified or not)

The point I am trying to make is... as much as you may want to make Bush sound worst than Hitler, (and he may or will get there if given the oportunity, the basis for a true totalitarian state are here, I will nto deny that) but so far Bush, as much as he had done... is not yet a new Hitler or Stalin.. just one in the making.

That is why I will do ALL I CAN to try to stop him before the factories of death are truly on the march... and though he has all the elements of that personality, I will not YET compare to a mature 1945 Hitler. We are oh, about 1935, not yet '36... and we have one small advantage over the germans... HISTORY... we may be able to stop it before it reachese the full horror of 1945 and ... the rest of the horrors.

We have to maintain a certain perspective... Bush has not yet killed 15 million civilians in concentration and extermination camps... again not that it cannot happen ok... we have to stop it before we reach that point.... and for that matter we have to stop him befoer he reaches the other ism... (stalin), who killed oh, conservative estimaes place it at 40 million...give or take five million

After all, one death is a tragedy, but a million deaths is a statistic, Joseph Stalin

[Stand and Fight]

27. Hitler...

Don't even go there -- that's going off the deep end. Bush is pretty awful, even evil, but he is no where near the raving lunatic genius of Adolf Hitler. Do I think he is capable of it? I'll decline to answer that for fear of the Gestapo, I mean, Homeland Security and the Patriot Act... Um, err... Never mind.

Just because you're paranoid don't mean they're not after you.

[muse]

6. Two words: Kent State

It's not like it hasn't been done before.

[DELUSIONAL]

24. Kent State -- unarmed college students were the enemy

Not one National Guard murderer was ever brought to justice -- the message -- students are an approved target.

I remember where I was when I heard JFK was assassinated and I remember where I was when I heard about the Kent State slaughter. When you are a member of a group being targeted by the President & right wing Governors apparently in the US you can be assassinated.

bushie is 100 times worse than Nixon -- he already ignores the Constitution in regards to locking a citizen up without access to lawyers or due process. And now just as back in the Kent State era -- bushie has supporters who would blindly kill on his command.

There is no doubt in my mind that if bushies remains in office he will become even more rigid about his Man Date -- and he will seek to get even with anyone and everyone who opposes his will.

The media has been successful in creating a mythological bushie -- but before the media did their Cinderella transformation -- he was a nasty tempered frat boy with a vindictive streak (according to interviews with one of his teachers from Harvard).

Barbara Bush is a vindictive "lady" and we are told that bushie takes after mama dearest.

[Stand and Fight]

30. *sigh*

Okay... Don't drudge that up. Nixon did not order the National Guardsmen to fire on those students anymore than if the same sort of thing had happened when Kennedy sent National Guardsmen to Alabama. That is to say, if George Wallace and Alabamians had been shot by Guardsmen it would not have been Kennedy's fault anymore than it was Nixon's. Let's not do what the right-wing media does and distort history to fit our own ends -- that's just tacky.

[muse]

59. Accountable

Just saying the federal government has used the military - national guard - to cut down citzens in the past. And, I did later think of Kennedy and the national guard Alabama. Kennedy would have certainly been held accountable for that. We are holding Bush accountable now for many/most of the mistakes of the federal governmnet, so I don't think my analogy is such a stretch. I'll give it some more thought. In the meantime, I'm sorry you had to sigh over my post and no, I am not a "tacky" person or poster. Perhaps there is a less confrontational way to make your point.

[sakabatou]

7. Of course.

After he let the assault weapons ban slip, he'd let mass murder go as well.

[Traction]

57. Not to defend Bush or assault weapons,

But wouldn't a true dictator support the ban? The answer is yes.

[cire4]

8. Isn't he bringing in the Army for his inauguration....

to help keep the protesters at bay?

That alone seems to indicate that Bush won't hesitate to use the nation's military resources against opposing Americans...

[cornermouse]

20. Which reminds me of Washington Week in Review

I think it was. Apparently this happened during Bush's first inauguration.

One of the commentators stated the news trucks who were ahead of Bush's limo (taking pictures of Bush coming down the street), were greeted by people who were kept in place by policemen 5 deep with the military behind them, called "shame, shame". He said the words just boomed.

[Contrary1]

9. Just remember...

"You are either with us or against us." And unfortunately, most
of his sheeple are of like mind. So it wouldn't be just the Shrub
aiming at us.

(As if the moron could hold a gun steady in the first place.)

[RegexReader]

50. and the scary part is

that these sheeple would be more likely to use their bullet hoses on you than soldiers that had a commanding officer that would be responsible for their actions. Remember the thread about the PW that was practicing to shoot leftist trolls?

A right wing fascist religious jihad. Marvelous.


RegexReader
$USA =~ s/Republican/Democrat/ig;

[Dem2theMax]

11. In a heartbeat. nt.

[FloridaPat]

12. I think Bushco did 9-11. He would just have another one.

[__Inanna__]

13. Let's see, he's used the weapons of

exporting our jobs, not caring who has health care, not doing anything more about flu shots, allowing 15 CIA officials to bail ship, Yes, I think he'd use weapons of many forms, against us.

[flordehinojos]

14. isn't bush supposed to have had his hands in the creation of the 9/11

crime ... his own Reichstag? Do not doubt it for a minute. Bush would have weapons turned against us in an instant and, in fact, I am surprised that the sharp shooters who follow him everywhere, or the military tanks that do, or the six antennaed vehicles that go along when he goes anywhere have not already done so.

It is reported by Sydney Blumenthal in an article in Salon Magazine that in his private tour of the Clinton library Bush showed not much interest in anything except when he came to a window with a view of the Arkansas River with the day's military patrol on it there to protect him ... It is reported that after staring at the river and at the military patrol that was there to protect the Bush boy, he said, "a submarine could take this out in a minute".

The question is ... was Bush looking at the possibilities of what others might do to us, or was he, I wonder, already plotting some attempt against the Clinton library dedicated to the opennes in democracy, the sunshine laws, and everything else that Bush is opposed to.

In Bush's nefarious soul, I would bet my head on a silver platter that something of a very dark nature lurked inside Bush's soul when he made those remarks.

[ragin_acadian]

16. i saw something around 1998 about

a weapon that was being developed.
bear with me, this might sound a little sci-fi,
but it was supposed to be a microwave that they mounted on an airplane that could shoot a frequency capable of stunning humans. Supposedly they tested it on sheep and it worked. The reason it was developed was to prevent things like the LA riots, stun masses of people rather than send in the police or national guard.

I am fairly sure that this thing exists, I'll look around on the net tomorrow and see if I can find any information. It sounds pretty...conspiracy theory, but I wouldn't put it past the mayberry machiavelli or any other people in power. (if it exists...i might have been on something like "worldnetdaily.com" or some crap)

anyway, this is my first post. i hope it wasn't too far out.

[4MoreYearsOfHell]

17. Welcome to DU

lots of newcomers I have seen lately...Post, watch and learn...

Thanks for the info...

[ragin_acadian]

21. thanks for the welcome.....4MoreYearsOfHell (Heh)

I was lurking here a month before the election, enjoying the posts and information, certain that that invading a sovereign nation would convince Americans that we needed a change in leadership.

But apparently two grooms on a wedding cake was more important.

I'm pissed off now. Still. In a red state, too.

I know there are some Dem's on here that are anti-gun, but I think that Ghandi may not apply in the day and age of missiles from a different time zone.

I saw a thread the other day about deliberate online Iran-disinformation, probably sponsored by the USIA or CIA, as well as some "Al-Jazeera" lookalikes that are a little too extreme and registered in British Columbia with Anglo names. Looks like Rendon group all over again: the guys behind the "babies thrown from incubators" story from the first gulf war. This type of manipulation should be followed, do you know of any threads or like minded members that could form an investigation group leading to the more than likely invasion of Iran?

[elehhhhna]

33. there's also a soundwave blaster thing that's pretty nasty...

[Ima]

53. They have some stink bomb thing.

Honest, I read a couple articles on it.

[newyawker99]

37. Hi ragin_acadian!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Stand and Fight]

28. Correction

That's the Reichstag fire that you're refiring to that was allegedly -- and without a doubt -- started by Field Marshall H. Goering.

[depakid]

18. Of course they would

There is abslutely nothing these folks wouldn't do to maintain power.

The scary part, though, is that easily 40% of the US population would support them... and even revel in it.

[magellan]

22. Believe it

BushCo already has its supporters calling those of us with dissenting voices traitors and anti-American. It's a stone's throw to "rounding up the lib-ruhls" and shooting protesters on sight.

[donheld]

23. "Would Bush take Americans to war without cause?"

five years ago we'd have swore no, but now we know he did.
five years ago we'd have swore he wouldn't dare steal from the poor and give to the rich, ruin the economy, alienate the world, Leave most children behind, devistate the envronment etc but we all know whats going on. Hell five years ago we'd have said he wouldn't dare steal 1 election, not to mention 2, but he has done all of that and people are still letting him get away with it all.

[aquart]

25. That's the point of the "Patriot" Act.

[Vickers]

26. Once you strip away their citizenship, it doesn't seem so "bad"

So, which group will lose their citizenship first?

- gays?

- Muslims?

- Democrats?

- Homeland insurgents?

:shrug:

After that, it's just a big ol' turkey shoot.

Sieg heil, podnuh!

[Stand and Fight]

29. In a heavily...

In a heavily disguised and dressed up manner he would do so. I believe the man is just that damn sick. I have thought he had major malfunctions up stairs for a while, and the other day I happened on a book by a Dr. Justin Frank entitled Bush on the Couch. I've just started reading it, and so far it is confirming my worst fears about Bush. He's a sick bastard who would not think twice about silencing dissenters like us if we got too far out of line. He'd do it with extreme prejudice under the auspices of national security and threats of terrorism from the likes of us liberal thinkers.

[mtnester]

31. Yes, in a Nanosecond - justifying it by calling it a defense from

Treasonists...Terorists....Unpatriotics.....insurgents....thugs

And I believe he would be rock hard while it happened.

Patriot Act II will GUARANTEE it.

[The Backlash Cometh]

32. This government has a history of harming its own.

Kent State
Downwinders
Japanese-American prisoner camps.

[Donna Zen]

34. A survivor

I stood at Kent State. Even before 24/7 hate radio, they killed us and got away with it. The only thing that is different now is how much easier it would be.

Yes, they would kill you...and get this, all of those so-called "bush voters" would be proud of what they did. The reaction to killing unarmed students Kent: they should have killed them all. It's true. The comments exist on tape from the minutes and days that followed the event.

The level of brainwashing going on in this country is truly amazing.

[Cheswick2.0]

35. yes of course

They have already. Look at how the peaceful protestors got treated at the RNC convention. They were locked up for days without being allowed to contract family or lawyers. It is not a huge leap from rubber bullets to real ones.

[quiet.american]

36. Faster than you can say, "Yee-ha!"

And with a smirk, too.

[tsuki]

38. Yes.

[in_cog_ni_to]

39. In a heartbeat!

We're "enemy combatants" now.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

40. There are plenty of armed fascists in the police and military who'd fire

on us in a heartbeat to make the world a better place in their psychopathic minds.

There is an awful lot of ammo and men who want to try it out and get all this evil-fightin' started and over with, yup.

IMPORTANT LESSON: WE MUST REACH OUT TO AND EDUCATE THE KIDS WHO ARE BEING SET UP TO BE THE NEXT WAVE OF FODDER AND REACH OUT TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TYPES WHO WILL BE SENT AGAINST US IN THE STREETS.

OR WE WILL HAVE TIENANMIN SQUARE IN THIS COUNTRY, TOO, AND SOON!

Look what happens when child-soldiers are turned loose on their own countrymen-
http://museums.cnd.org/June4th/massacre.html
(Tienanmin Square Photos from China)

[bush_is_wacko]

41. No doubt in my mind

His election night appearance solidified it for me. it was a warning or message to someone. I suspect it was a little of both. he seemingly has adopted OBLs method of delivering messages. Wouldn't you agree?

[212demop]

42. Oh, I don't know- he's a terrorist in a class all by himself

dont ya' think?

With a language all his own-- it sure as hell ain't English

[lthuedk]

43. One of my cartoons will answer:

http://www.light-to-dark.com/team_fear.html

[bush_is_wacko]

51. That's exactly what I think

This presidents public appearances are so rare, I swear he spends all his time drinking beer w/ OBL! He certainly doesn't spend any time listening to breifings or learning about the world outside the WH. Al you have to do is hear him speak to realize that much!

[Ima]

54. I didn't see it

could you tell me, what he said, to make you say that?

[bush_is_wacko]

60. He didn't say much of anything

He just got a message to the media he was inviting them up to the residence. Kept the public geussing for an hour as to what he was going to say or do. I can't remember any election where either candidate has spoken to the press during the election. I'm sure someone else can think of one. But even if the precedent exists, I'm sure that person actually said something interesting and certainly wasn't smirking and thumbing his nose at the public. Anyway, since OBL's video hadn't been explained, I'm sure lots of people were sitting by their television sets waiting w/ baited breath. When he finally did go on tv. It was just to smirk wordlessly for a few minutes, try to get Barney to come near him, and say "I'm confident we will win the election."

By the way I'm surprised Bush doesn't take his dog Barney out behind a tree and shoot him. That dog hates his guts, he's completely disloyal, he should have turned in his resignation long before the election! The best part of that whole scene was the fact that Barney still won't have squat to do with Bush!

[Ima]

67. Oh ya

I saw the one of* and his family ,in the whitehouse on election night. The channel I watched, must of edited the dog part out.

The purpose of that was to show * confidence and with family. The whole thing was staged for public consumption. Do you really think * sits around in a starched white shirt and tie at home in the evening?


The news caught * coming off AF1, looking real upset. That was when the polls were going for Kerry. So they needed a new photo opp showing * confident and winner like. That is why, there was no clear message.

[robbedvoter]

44. Poppy: atheists are not american citizens;

So, the answer is: W decides who is American and who isn't. And who isn't with him....as Swaggart said: "will pay the penalty"

[spanone]

45. Remember: He was annointed by God himself. No doubt.

Nothing more violent than religion.

[desertalien]

47. You said it for me

n/t

[Beacho]

46. Don't doubt it for one second

Not to give the Chimperor any slack, but it's not a Bush thing. It's an American thing.

Just look at the history of this country, from the Whiskey Rebellion to Kent State.

Remember McCarthur and the Bonus Marchers in Washington D.C.

Don't doubt that any response to loss of control, real or perceived, would be swift, ruthless, and brutal.

[CatWoman]

48. He's already leashed himself against us

weapons can't be far away.

[Darranar]

49. Yes, if he can get away with it. n/t

[AngryAmish]

52. Bush is Hitler

[bushnboots]

55. How dare anyone question His word...

BushCo is a psychopath, a Charles Manson figure in his own mind. He cannot stand to be contradicted and certainly not heckled. Any hint of a strong, united threat to his power and policies would be met with the most lethal response by his jack-booted lieutenants, no doubt about it.

The man has delusions of grandeur that rival the emotionally crippled Hitler, and sadly, much more power at his disposal. Our trek towards a state-controlled dictatorship has only just begun.

[eridani]

56. Is a bear Catholic? Does the Pope shit in the woods? n/t

[leftofthedial]

58. the little bushturd would turn weapons against

his mother, wife, daughters, and even Condi Strap-on-do-leeza Rice

if it thought it would buy him five more minutes of power.

[Jack Bone]

61. Remember a few days ago...

Tanks rolling into a Californian Anti-War protest(I believe)

Hmmmmmm.......Tanks?

now shake yer head...get yer bearings back again...


TANKS!!! yep...w/o a doubt....Deploying Tanks to a Peace Rally? is that Fair & Balanced?

[mattclearing]

62. Not a stretch to believe he would.

I don't think he has a problem hurting Americans if that is necessary to forward his goals. Cheney okayed the shooting down of the jets on September 11th, albeit a bit late.

If a free-speech zone of a hundred of so people near a Bush speech event decided to migrate peacefully to the event against the wishes of the Secret Service, I bet you'd see some violence.

[TragicHipster]

63. This is what the 2nd amendment is for...

It blows my mind that the people that most distrust the government and its abuse of power (liberals) are also the same people that want to repeal the 2nd amendment. I'll never understand that sort of crazy logic.

[vetwife]

64. Yes and already has...when he ordered planes of americans to be

shot down. The way I understand the 2nd Amendment is for We the people to form a well organized militia when the government tries to overthrow the constituion or has become a monarchy. That is how I understand the 2nd admentment.

[merh]

65. Yes, and label us insurgents, domestic terrorist and insurgents.

:nuke:

[bunny planet]

66. I don't think the military supports Bush any longer, at least not in the

numbers they once did. Generals and intelligence officers have come out openly against him. We don't know who the military (lower ranks) voted for. I think Bush wouldn't hesitate to attack his own people but I question whether or not he'd have enough willing participants in the military who would want to attack their own people. I could see a military coup against this president if he overeaches too far. I still wonder who the military voted for in this election, will we ever be told?

[Her Blondness]

68. Most defintely

And the question that could have come before that one is:

What will bush do in response to blue state secession???

[mattclearing]

69. Great.

Let's turn him into Lincoln now.

:thumbsdown:

[AntiCoup2K4]

70. Is Ford's theater still around?

n/t

[hangloose]

71. I think his administration is capable of violence against the

citizens of this country who may threaten their political position. Yes, I firmly believe this. But, they are shrew and tactical so if they contemplate such action they will use surrogates to act out the deed. They will first pick off leaders to intimidate the followers, to be followed by imprisonment of the most articulate, to be followed by intimidation of the rest.

So with this dismal assessment let's kick this son-of-a bitch out and then charge him with treason. May God have mercy on his soul.

[tom_paine]

72. Yes. Without hesitation for a slight provocation

Emperors HATE to be defied.

Especially those doing God's Work.

Yes. The coward would easily and remorselesly order the deaths of Americans, as long as it was the Godless Liberals.

[AuntPatsy]

73. Shows that he would definately dare...what a scary group...

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/11/93812.php

Much more following link above, what a strange and fearful site..

BUSH FAMILY BODY COUNT.
George W. Bush
Body count.

John O'Neill

He was Director of Counterterrorism at the New York offices of the FBI. until he resigned in August 2001. One of the world's top experts on Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda, he grew to believe that "all the answers" regarding what they needed to destroy Al Qaeda lay in Saudi Arabia. However, starting in January 2001, Bush blocked all efforts by Mr. O'Neill to investigate Saudi ties to bin Laden. In the summer of 2001 O'Neill declared that the main obstacles to his investigation were U.S. oil interests.
In late August, a frustrated O'Neill quit the FBI and took a position as head of security for the World Trade Center. From Democrats.com:

September 11: On O'Neill's second day of work on the 34th floor, the WTC is hit by the first plane. O'Neill makes it out of the building safely, calls his son to say he is OK,. then goes into the other tower to help guide those still inside to safety. Minutes later, O'Neill, along with hundreds of others, is dead, killed by the terrorist the Bush administration refused to allow him to pursue to the best of his ability.

Katherine Smith

She had been implicated in February in a phony documents scheme said to be related to the September 11 hijackers. One day before she was due in court, she was incinerated in her car after having hit a utility pole. An investigation revealed that the crash was minor and was not the cause of the fire that burned Smith beyond recognition. Who was really behind 9/11? Was Katherine Smith privy to that information? Why did she have to die, and who killed her?
Katherine Smith, a Tennessee driver’s license examiner was killed in an ‘automobile accident’ when her vehicle reportedly crashed into a utility pole and burst into flames. Damage to the car was minimal and the gas tank was discovered to be full and intact. The death was considered as having occurred under the “most unusual and suspicious” circumstances. One report suggested that the car had been doused with gasoline and then ignited. The next day she was to be arraigned on charges that she had supplied five of the alleged hijackers with phony licenses.