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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 05:40 PM
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Fox: "What Will a New Bush Term Mean for the American Family?"
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,138571,00.html

SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: Dr. Dobson (author of "The New Strong-Willed Child" and founder and chairman of Focus on the Family), thanks for being with us, appreciate you being onboard. You know, I hold up my little red map, a county-by-county map, and this is a very red country, Dr. Dobson. And that — it's very interesting, Charles Krauthammer, who is a frequent guest on "Special Report with Brit Hume," had a great column today, and he talked about how back in '94 when the Republicans took over Congress for the first time in 40 years, the liberals in the media kept referring to "angry white men." Now this selection has become the "bigoted Christian redneck." And you've heard a lot of these criticisms in the voting and everything, and this "red America, Jesus land." What are your thoughts on the way people are reacting to the election?

DR. JAMES DOBSON, FOCUS ON THE FAMILY: Well, Sean, there is always a spin, there is always a backlash, there is always an effort to marginalize the conservative that's been elected. They did that to Ronald Reagan, they did it to George Bush, and they're doing it to George Bush — George W. Bush. So I don't take that too seriously.

COLMES: Do you think it was indeed moral values that won it for George W. Bush?

DOBSON: They're no question about it. My take on it is that people who are hard-working, middle American, mostly, who care about their families and care about moral values often go to church on Sunday, have been watching what's been going on in this country. They've seen the moral decline, they've seen what's happening in the schools, they've seen what's happening especially in Hollywood, and the entertainment industry, and then they saw what Massachusetts tried to do to the family. They were very alarmed by that. And we're not just talking about Evangelicals, they're Catholics, mainline Christians, people with no faith at all, but hold those views. And when they got an opportunity, they said enough is enough.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 05:43 PM
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1. Massachusetts is the most 'moral' state in the country.
low divorce, high educated, low teen pregnancy, low infant deaths, ranked in the 30s for taxes (i don't care, but pukes do).
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 05:44 PM
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2. ooh, ooh, that's an easy one!!!
lower wages, higher health care costs, more uninsured children and working families, more foreclosures, more bankruptcies, more homelessness, more hunger, NO cut in payroll taxes, less retirement security, a greater need to care for our elders ourselves, etc.
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SaintAnne Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 05:46 PM
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3. MA
bah, I do not like this dobson guy. I went to a lesbian marriage on saturday, it was lovely. the brides were so sweet, and it was such a wonderful celebration of marriage. why can't other people just be happy for other people.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 05:51 PM
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8. Because..
...happy people are fearless people.
Keep everyone a-skeered, and they won't notice what is really going on.
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 05:47 PM
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4. Give Me a F***ing Break, Dobson!
"Moral values" my foot! It was FEAR-MONGERING that drove the cowards to vote for Shrub.

What kind of moral values is it to consistently worship Mammon by sacrificing Americans jobs? What kind of moral values is it to belittle people who are different (i.e. gays)? "Moral values". Hah! What a joke!
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 05:47 PM
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5. bigotry is not a moral value
this was about hating "the gays", period. ignorance & fear motivated the conservative voter.

if you could get an initiative asking "should we keep darky down?" on the ballot it would pass in every state the anti-gay marriage initiatives passed.

"moral decline"? "descent into paganism"?

i prefer "transcending monotheism".
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 05:50 PM
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6. But they HAVEN'T seen...
...what's going on in Fallujah and Ukraine.

Why is that?

Keep your eye on the pea. Ignore the man behind the curtain. We'll tell you which "morals" you should pay attention to.

BTW, Dobson is a poor excuse for a human being. What a pile of garbage. He's one of the real powers in the TheoCon Thugs for Jeebus, and rightfully should be laughed out of town... but due to the Thug Noise Machine, gets his spew on national TV.

:puke:
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 05:51 PM
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7. Why don't you ask fox entertainment?
More Cops, Desperate Housewives type reality shows, and corprofascist values-instilling, no doubt.
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lessthanjake Donating Member (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 05:52 PM
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9. I guarantee you all that...
Someones going to come on here and say that moral issues didnt make the difference in the election and that the voting machines did. Ill wager 20 dollars.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 05:56 PM
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11. You know what. ltj?
They would be well on their way to being correct.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 06:00 PM
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12. "make the difference"
Any issue can be said to have "made the difference." Still, moral issues got only 20% even in that horribly written, biased exit poll. You know, the same one that said Kerry in a landslide.

But personally, I think it was the voting machines. ;)
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 06:05 PM
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14. why does it have to be one or the other?
there are many factors.
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mbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 05:56 PM
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10. Should ask them when thou shalt not steal (elections)
was taken out of the ten commandments!
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 06:00 PM
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13. Dobson is starting to sound like you-know-who
The national government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality. Today Christians stand at the head of our country. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit. We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press ... in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past few years."

From The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1, pg. 871-872
(London, Oxford University Press, 1942.)

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