How big an improvement is Johnny Isaakson over Zell Miller?

[urbanguerrilla]

I heard he was the near-extinct species of Rockefeller Republican.

[charlie]

1. Y'know, I've also seen him referred to

as a Rockefeller or even a liberal Republican. But looking at his votes on issues, he looks like a full-bore troglodyte to me.

http://www.issues2000.org/GA/Johnny_Isakson.htm

[JohnKleeb]

2. I hear hes pro choice in some cases

I think hes a more moderate southern republican, not good but he won't be like how some are. The ultimate irony would be if he became like Zell heh.

[charlie]

3. Man, this is just awful

A guy like that is regarded as something softer than a rightwing conservative nowadays because guys like Coburn, DeMint, and Santorum skew the curve right off the map. If Ann Coulter ever decides to be a senator, she'll fucking win. Our country has gone flat nutz.

[JohnKleeb]

5. Coulter wouldn't win in her home state, its Connecticut

Issakson is a conservative but he doesn't appear to be crazy like Coburn, Demint, the woman he defeated in the primaries when he replaced the Gingrich was actually Gingrich's pick for the house library, some woman named Christine Jeffrey, does that ring a bell?

[charlie]

6. I'm certainly grateful for small favors

And that he isn't moonbat crazy like some of his partymates is a decidedly small one (and that Coulter's homestate is Conn, didn't know that. There's nothing to stop her from carpetbagging, though). Hell, he may well be an improvement over Zell. But it's still a sorry sign of the times when he's regarded as a liberal Republican.

[JohnKleeb]

11. all those are more moderate republicans

Pete Wilson though? I thought he was a conservative.

[Doomsayer13]

4. I'd rather a Republican than Zell Miller

Zell Miller does so much more damage as a Democrat, even if Tom Coburn was elected to replace him, it'd be an improvement.

[LimpingLib]

7. Coburn actually has some libertarian streaks.

His Democratic opponent bashed him for "opposing the Patriot Act" based on Coburns statements at the time he was out of office.

Considering the whole media and every corrupt offocial in the country is trying to ram the Troy horse sequel (and FAR worse) to the Patriot Act down our throats in this lame duck session , I suppose this most important issue could use another Senator who actually opposed the origonal.

I view Coburn as a possible bright spot in the Senate. He opposes all kinds of porkish programs and might give the GOP leadership headaches.

[Mike L]

8. I've heard Coburn called a "maverick" because he doesn't

walk the Repug party line on every single issue. I think the fundies gave him the victory because of his fanatical pro-life stance (he said abortion doctors should be executed). Carson was pro-choice.

[Eloriel]

9. All I can say as a Georgian

is that I'm certainly not shedding any tears over Zell being gone. I don't follow state politics much, but Isaakson, as others have already pointed out, is definitely not the looniest of the bunch. We'll see how he does in Washington, tho. Once they come under the spell of their leadership, they go all spinless and vote the party line as a rule.

[LimpingLib]

10. On all the major issues ,he is a dangerous Senator.

Corperate welfare , CIA , FBI , wars , civil libertys ,etc.


I dont really understand what it is that makes some people somehow think one right wing fascist is somehow so much worse than another.

I think the best right wingers are the ones who think civil libertys have to be defended and not rammed through without a second thought. Frankly its the few (Coburn is the only possible one in the Senate ,not that DEmocrats are much better) none harmful ones that often get called the "loonies".Isaakson is about as bad as they come.

People talk about a Rockefeller Republican as being something none harmful.Frankly the Rockefellar family is about as corrupt as one could imagine (Bush family is just average Joes almost compared to them)and as far as civil libertys go,give me a break. All Republicans today are Rockefellar Republicans.


Also , Coburns abortion stance was sipmly based on honesty (unlike other politicians). He simply said that if abortion is murder then states that have Pro Life politicians that also happen to live in states that put people too death must start being honest about their positions.

He would have been a major looser had he lost after such a crazy yet honest statement but he WON. So his bold statement only builds his credibility. He also was one of the few that didnt break his word on his 3 term pledge. He held the (now) only liberal district though there was another at the time in his state.Only won because of the 1994 tital wave where he won with 52% then won re-election in 1996 against some major opposition (speaker of the state House)with 55%. Retired in 2000 and REpublicans knew they would loose the seat.They did just that ,loosing to Carson by 15%.

People who make a big fuss about Coburn simply dont understand what we have to fear these days.It reminds me of all the Democratic polsters and big mouths on TV whinning about Bush and the war but nearly the entire Democratic roster in the Senate supported the war.

Coburn might be somebody who takes a stand on horrible civil rights burning legislation. Everybody here moans about the Patriot Act but dont understand how much worse the 9/11 whitewash Commision bill is. Not a word in the media. Ill gladly take a Coburn or any Republican who MIGHT even have a slight chance of jumpstarting some or ANY sort of discussion when the anti-civil rights legislation comes up for a ram through.