Didn't Clinton lose Iowa in 92? I can't remember.

[AngryYoungMan]

And then he triumphed in NH; wasn't that why he was the "Comeback kid"?

Or do I have it all wrong? Sorry...I just can't remember.

[fishguy]

1. Dean is no Clinton

[AngryYoungMan]

6. Please don't start with me.

I was asking a factual question. You cannot read my mind and do not have the slightest idea what I'm getting at or whom I support or whom I'm comparing or not comparing. Thanks.

On Edit: Sorry. I'm in a bad mood for unrelated (non-political) reasons. Not your fault.

[creativelcro]

2. Clinton was a fiasco in Iowa

[Kahuna]

14. Clinton skipped Iowa.

nt

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

3. yes

but of course harkin was running that year, so it was a given that he'd win iowa

[ogminlo]

4. Only Dubya and Carter won the WH after winning IA.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

5. he got 3%

Clinton had about as much support as Kucinich does now.

[Nashyra]

10. There is really no comparison

We have never had an election decided by the Supreme Court. Now is the time we will be able to twll how angry the electorate is over that issue. Double the people came out to caucus, perhaps double the people will come out and vote and the * will be toast.

[Jackson Smith]

7. This situation is entirely different from '92 <nm>

[BeatleBoot]

8. He came in fourth

4th

[incapsulated]

9. Because Harkin was running

It was pretty much a lock.

Then after the Flowers incident, everyone thought Clinton was toast. He didn't win NH, but did well enough to stun everybody, since they already wrote him off completely.

[lancdem]

11. And Clinton didn't win N.H., either

He was second.

[GainesT1958]

12. In 1992, Sen. Tom Harkin was also running...

And he won his home-state caucus. Paul Tsongas actually won in New Hampshire, but Clinton finished a "strong second" there; hence the nickname "The Comeback Kid".

B-)

[Kahuna]

13. Clinton skipped Iowa.

Let's leave him out of this.

[knight_of_the_star]

19. Which Clark has also done

So it seems that Clark may pull a repeat of Clinton.

[elperromagico]

15. Tsongas triumphed in NH, IIRC

My question remains this: How was Clinton doing in national polls when he lost Iowa? Was he the frontrunner? I got the impression that Clinton picked up force around Super Tuesday.

[NewHampster]

16. he came to NH in the pack

came in second to Tsongas but the Jennifer Flowers news actually gave him a boost.

[Nicholas_J]

20. Difference in all these cases...

Is that Clinton didnt hold large leads over the other candidates in either Iowa or New Hampshire in 1992.

Harkin won in Iowa, because it was his own state.

Kerry was further behind Dean on thw 11th of January than he is currently behind Dean in New Hampshire. Less than 6 weeks ago, Dean was at 40 percent in the poll that have him at 28 percent now. Edwards was in single digits behind Dean in Iowa on the 11th as well.

Current polls and newspapers are stating that the undecided in New Hampshire have been waiting for the results in Iowa before making up their mind.

No one was expecting any of the candidates of getting more than 25 percent in Iowa.

The anti-war voters selected Kerry over Dean in Iowa.

The real answer is that most of the voters in Iowa are looking for answers rather than anger.

The fact that Kerry could gain such a substantial lead over Dean outside of his own region of the country is a major success, and again is expected to have a large carry over in New Hamphire in the next few days.

Besides , If anyone can be compared to Bill CLinton for this campaign for the nomination, it is John Edwards, not Howard Dean.

[John_H]

17. This "Clinton lost IA in '92" spin is absurd

Nobody seriously campaigned in IA in '92. Plus, it reminds people that even 1992's 80 percent winner's endorsement didn't help.

[Jackson Smith]

18. Clinton was also from the South and had a huge network there

and was an entirely different personality from Dean.

We have two Southerners (Edwards and Clark) and Dean is gonna come in and sweep the South? lol