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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:07 PM
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The Ethic of Total Opposition
I was sitting at the bar the other day with Hannah, talking politics over a mug. I commented that morale among those in the progressive movement had cratered since the Presidential election, that the energy and hopefulness which had marked the long slog towards the vote had been replaced by a dimming of expectations, a hunch-shouldered feeling of despair. Hannah wasn’t surprised. “I’m a cynic these days,” she said. “I don’t count on people much anymore.”

The feeling is understandable. We’ve seen hundreds of thousands of people take to the streets in the Ukraine to force a showdown over a questionable election. Yet here in America, after a national election with some 30,000 reported cases of irregularities, there is this odd silence. When a former satellite of the Soviet Union shames the greatest democracy in the history of the world on something as elemental as the right to vote, things are badly out of joint.

We’ve seen 137 American soldiers die in the month of November during the ongoing occupation of Iraq, combined with God only knows how many civilians killed. Some 200,000 people were forced to flee Fallujah after Bush decided to celebrate the November election by razing much of that city to the ground in a military assault that accomplished exactly nothing. Again, we are greeted with this odd silence.

We’ve seen the FBI and local police forces investigate political and religious entities, such as the Quakers and the Campaign for Labor Rights along with several peace and environmental activist groups, on the grounds that these organizations might be terrorism-related. These groups have been interviewed, investigated and subjected to searches by a variety of terrorism task forces. It goes without saying that the groups under scrutiny are not friendly to Bush administration polices at home and abroad. The Constitutional guarantee of free speech and free association is falling by the boards, and again, we are greeted with this odd silence.

This is but a small slice of what has already happened, and cannot begin to encapsulate what may lie in wait in the coming weeks, months and years. If the silence that surrounds everything continues, perhaps Hannah’s cynicism is justified.

But then again, I met Brian Willson.

The name might not be immediately familiar to you. Willson is a member of the group Veterans for Peace, an organization comprised of military veterans from every war America has fought since World War II. The mission on their web page states, “Our collective experience tells us wars are easy to start and hard to stop and that those hurt are often the innocent. Thus, other means of problem solving are necessary.” Veterans for Peace has been active in every demonstration against the Iraq war that I have been to in the last two years.

I met Brian Willson last summer during the VFP convention in San Francisco. Willson is a Vietnam veteran who walks on two prosthetic limbs that reach from his knees to the ground. He did not lose his legs in the war. Willson has been a peace activist for decades, and in 1987 was participating in an action to stop Naval trains from delivering cargoes of weapons to Central America. His methods were direct; he and his fellow activists would lay their bodies across the tracks and stop the trains. They had done this several times before, and each time, the trains had stopped. One day, however, the train kept going. Willson lost both legs below the knee and had a large hole blasted into his skull.

I think of everything I have sacrificed in the last four years in order to do whatever small amount I could to stop the Iraq invasion and to offset the damage being done by Bush and his people. I gave up a beloved teaching job to wage this battle full time. I have seen friends marry, have children and move away while pursuing lives so calmly ordinary as to leave me wondering which way is up. I have let my health slide in order to concentrate on the tasks at hand. I have traveled over 100,000 miles trying to convince people that we are barreling headlong into a hard brick wall.

But I have not buried a beloved family member who was killed in Iraq while serving in our armed forces. I have not buried a family member who lived in Iraq and was killed for being in the wrong place when the cluster bombs or the napalm struck. I have not seen my job outsourced and been left to wonder how to feed my family. I have not watched my retirement fund get stolen by latter-day corporate robber barons. I did not get my legs cut from my body trying to stop a train filled with weapons from reaching its deadly destination.

If Brian Willson can wake each day, strap his metal legs to his body, and keep marching for what he believes in, who am I to despair? Considering the damage done to so many people these last four years, I’ve gotten off light. Cynicism is not an option.

Perhaps it will all come to nothing. Certainly, with Congress and the White House under the sway of people whose moral compass points ever downwards, with the highest court ripe for the molding by these people, with a national news media that avoids hard truth the way a cat avoids water, it is difficult to imagine the break of dawn coming anytime soon. We are down to the ethic of total opposition, and as lonely as that estate may be, it is what we have, and we owe it to those who have suffered beyond our comprehension to continue as we began.

I am reminded of a scene in ‘The Lion in Winter.’ Geoffrey, John and Richard await their executioners, and Richard demands that they face their doom with strength. Geoffrey scoffs, “You fool. As if it matters how a man falls.”

Richard’s reply: “When the fall is all that’s left, it matters.”
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:14 PM
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1. Kerry's early concession made many people give up.

How can citizens fight for a man who's said it's over?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:44 PM
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7. Now, we fight for democracy
no need to fight for the man anymore......

It's actually quite freeing. We get to let go of our leader and begin the process of learning how to lead ourselves.

I'm learning. Come learn with me. Come help me set up www.givebushthefinger.org or help me to write the Southern Baptist tract I'm working on to help them to see that Jesus' values are Brand Democrat. Come help me print flyers to be posted in a million places, showing the razing of Falluja, come help us do Highway Blogging in every red state in the union. Come stand in solidarity with the Women in Black or A.N.S.W.E.R. Come up with your own protest, singular or with others. Be a leader. We will win, not this week, nor this month, nor possibly this year or this decade - it may be our children who finally realize the vision of our forefathers. It may not even be ours to see the victory but it will come. We must lead to save our souls and to save the soul of our country. Kerry et.al. must figure out how to save their collective souls. That is no longer our job and really, it never was............

Come fellow Patriot, it is time to lead. This is your land, make it your home.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:26 AM
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44. I WAS fighting for democracy and I supported John Kerry because
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 06:31 AM by DemBones DemBones
I thought he was equally committed. But he caved, and quickly. Before all the votes were counted.

I'm not unused to losing, I've been a registered Democratic voter since 1968, so I've experienced a few election losses before. But this was the most crucial election of my lifetime and the candidate I supported simply exited the stage, giving a nice speech as he threw in the towel. It's fine to say we should all be leaders, but there comes a time when national leadership is sorely needed. Now is that time.

If Kerry had chosen to contest the election results, perhaps we'd have thousands in the streets protesting on his behalf.

Had you thought of that before? Perhaps we'd have found the motivation that the Ukrainian people have found, if we'd only been given a chance. In 2000, Al Gore's people were uncomfortable about Jesse Jackson being in Florida to organize demonstrations. The result was that Dems did nothing but stand by and watch that stupid Republican Riot staged (and I do mean staged) by people from various GOP congressional offices. The wingnuts had people at the vice president's mansion shouting for Gore (who was legally VP until a new administration took office) to "Get Out of Cheney's House." It was absurd, but Dems were not encouraged to protest. Black Floridians' complaints about being disenfranchised were ignored. But at least Gore hung in there and gave it a bit of a fight. This year, while we were hearing about possible fraud and "irregularities" in the vote, before any demonstrations could take place, Kerry simply bowed out.

If Kerry had not conceded and had supported counting all the votes and recounting as necessary, maybe there'd be huge demonstrations in the U.S. today, mirroring those in the Ukraine.

We'll never know since Kerry opted not to give us that chance. We'll survive and go on but how can the Democratic Party seriously expect us to do for the 2008 nominee what we did for Kerry? How can anyone expect us to believe again?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:01 PM
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46. Of course I've thought of that before
I've even posted nearly that same post. Thing is, that was when it was still about rallying around our leader and then having our leader go AWOL. We are the leaders now. Kerry may or may not win - irrelevent at this point. It sure didn't seem irrelevent on Nov. 3rd, but it most assuredly is now.

We have to find the strength within to do what we must without our figure head. I'm busting my butt for the BBV stuff and it isn't about Kerry at all anymore. Sure, I would love to see him in the White House over this but I will continue to fight for something much bigger than him, with or without him.

Yeah, he knocked us on our asses with what he did. It took some of us days and it's taken some of us weeks and it will take others months and years to get back up off their butts - we are all different. But we were worshipping a false idol. We are the leader - a giant grassroats juggarnaut. It's not about Kerry - it's about you and me and fighting for Democracy and demanding that Fascism be routed, period, no compromise, no surrender and no need for a "leader". We are the leader.

We need organizers and we can each do our own organizing and then those organizations can further coalesce and so on and so on. Don't look at the endgoal - look at what you can do today. Call it the twelve step for recovery from dependence on leaders. In some ways it's nice to have a leader but in some ways it is very detrimental to one's individual motivation. It becomes easy to believe that your only job is to follow. That is the least of your jobs. It's the easy route. But it is also the substandard route. We must and we will do better than that.

It is the Christian right that are sheep, it is the working poor who have been bamboozled into voting Republican who are the sheep. We are not sheep. We think, we even think critically on a regular basis. We don't drown in the rain (sheep often do).

Lincoln used to call the people that I just called sheep, the Know-Nothings. They aren't new but there do seem to be even more of them lately.

So, rather than complaining that Kerry abandoned us (he did), move on and decide what you will do today. Actually do, not complain about. Print some flyers, talk to your coworkers, refuse to be bullied - there are a thousand things you could do just today. Pick something new for tomorrow. You get the idea. Be a leader, in whatever small way you can.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:20 PM
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2. Very moving.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:26 PM
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3. Excellent as always. I am dejected, but believe that there will be a
point when the rest of the country will 'wake up' to America's destruction. It may come with a new draft, another war, the total crash of the economy, or even with a 'police action' against unarmed citizens, but I believe it will come.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:35 PM
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4. Is this one of your articles?
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 12:35 PM by tavalon
In other words, should I hold off posting it elsewhere? It's already printing on my printer to be placed on my refrigerator next to the quote from Margaret Mead, "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

I've been breaking free of my dark night of recent, but the night before last, it held me again in it's icy, sad wind. This is more personally timely than you could ever imagine.

It's the strangest thing but every time I think you have written the best article ever, you write one that tops it.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:39 PM
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5. Thanks
Hold off on forwarding for the time being. I'll let you know when it is clear.
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:42 PM
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6. You drama queen you, its not about "fighting" their army.
All this high romantic rhetoric, Will, you sound like Shakespeare's Henry at Agincourt giving the old "once more into the breach" speach all the time. If I see you use the tired old cliche "with every fibre (or fiber, I guess it depends how anglophilic we are feeling that day) of my being" I will vomit.

Fighting battles, no holds barred, blood on the floor, to the last gasp, this is really a silly view of the role of a minority party in a democracy in which the majority controls all power. Its exciting imagery, its romantic and stirring for those who view politics as a crusade and themselves as noble knights in shining armor, but most grownups, I would hope, anyway, have a better grip on themselves. The minority never wins in congress, no matter how plucky or brave or tenacious. You have to have a majority to win, period. And you don't get a majority by "waging all out war." The only possible way to get a majority is to convince some on the other side to join you, which they are unlikely to do while you are waging all out war on them. Its sorta alienating.

But anyway, what happens in congress, the laws that will be passed, the policies adopted, is just a battle, not the war. The real struggle, I say struggle, rather than war, is unfortunately a struggle involving lots of boring slogging tedious behind the scenes work. It won't involve glorious romantic speeches by Byrd, or dramatic walkouts that just let the other side do what they want anyway. It will involve winning the voters. Not winning the legislative battles, winning the voters. Thats the struggle. Winning the support of a majority of the voters. It may involve playing the rope-a-dope, giving them enough rope to hang themselves. It may involve some changes in the democratic party. I actually thinnk that the fight, if there is to be a "fight," will be for the party, not any legislative war.

The democratic party needs to return to its core, its traditional role and its most important purpose for the last century. It needs to become the party of the working men and women, the party of economic justice and opportunity for the working class, it needs to be the party that will protect the working class from the corporations and the wealthy, the party of the square deal and the fair deal, the trust-buster and giant slayer.

The democratic party has been losing ever since the early 1970s because it has become the party of special interests, narrow special interests. We have allowed it to become the party of gay marriage and feminists and trans-gendered rights and save the whales and the spotted owls. I support all these things, mind you, but they cannot and should not be the defining issues, or else the democratic party will never muster a majority again. The one thing everyone has in commmon is economic justice, thats what this party used to be about, and its not any more and thats why it loses the big battle, the battle for voters.

Anyway, back to your stirring calls to arms, I have kept you too long, they must need you at the ramparts.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:01 PM
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30. Aside from the 'drama queen' comment...
... I agree with you completely and wanted to say "well said".

I'm starting to realize that I'm not a "good Democrat" because I think the party is well off the track on many issues. On the other hand, I'd rather cut my leg off with a rusty saw than be a Republican.

By trying to solve everything, we've affectively put outselves in a position to solve nothing. Damn it hurts.
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 03:22 PM
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35. I don't think the party is off track on these issues, I support them.
But the party has allowed these fringe issues (yes, I fucking said fringe, they are not as important as economic and social justice) to define the party. The dems have been mau-maued succesfully to the point that they shiver in terror that someone will say "class warfare" if they so much as whisper that the rich will screw the poor every time unless the government stops them. Thats what this party is for, to prevent the wealthy from acquiring too much control and too much of the wealth. We are about reining in the abuses of capitalism and redistributing wealth. Yes, goddamit, I am a good roosevelt democrat and thats it, redistribute, take from the rich and give to the poor. And fuck anyone who says "class warfare" or "socialist" as if they are bad wars. The fucking rich know that its a war, and they are good at it.
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m berst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 03:12 PM
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33. both passion and reason are important
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 03:13 PM by m berst
No need to suggest that those who have a talent for and inclination to inspire people to be characterized as not being grown ups.

While the actual work may be to some extent dry and mundane, the political situation still moves when people are moved, and people are still moved by appeals to their hearts as well as their minds.

It is not in fashion today for people to show or express any emotions, but I believe that this milquetoast "play nice and be reasonable" approach - in other words remain cool as a cucumber no matter how outrageous the provocation - is a weakness that the bullies among us exploit, and those bullies are the true impetus that is propelling the country down the road to totalitarianism.



on edit - tried to improve that first sentence, with limited success
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 03:17 PM
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34. Oh, okay, your right; Will does good.
But damn, in the end, you have to have a good product to sell, you can't dress it up with pretty words.
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m berst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 03:34 PM
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36. yes
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 03:35 PM by m berst
The Republicans are masters at packaging - all sizzle and no steak there, or maybe I should say "all hat and no cattle."

I see a much bigger problem for Democrats of being overly-analytical, too obsessed with nuts and bolts and esoteric knowledge, and therefore failing to reach people with a simple, clear and, yes, passionate message. The resistance to passion that has become a plague on our society works against the party and progressive politics. We prize cool, rational detachment, and we ridicule any expressions of emotion about what is happening. If we don't act and speak as though we care, how can we ever expect the average person to care? And if the average person doesn't care, do we not severely handicap any progressive political movement?

Much of the post-election demographic and strategic analysis puts me to sleep. There is no way that the average person will ever be interested. For the average person to be interested, it has to matter. Too many Democrats look, act and speak as though it is all some dry exercise in intellectualized analysis, and this does not inspire people.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:46 PM
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8. Passion can be very tiring
Once you look beyond the history books you read in high school and take a look in to the reality of the world around you, it can be a shock. A lot of people really just started paying attention to all of this after the 2000 election and I think that those same people were shocked that our country isn't the same as they grew up thinking it was.
Most of us here put a lot of our hearts into this thing and feel like a boxer after 12 rounds finding out they lost the fight. I am positive that we will once again become strong and fight once again.
Face it...the truth is the hard road and the majority of people would rather take the easy road and not think too much. There are many more people in this country who follow than those who lead, and the leaders are always the ones who have to put a lot more into it than the followers. The leader's fall is always more heartfelt and painful, but they also get up again faster.
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mslux Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:48 PM
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9. I was depressed less than 24 hours
after the election was called for W. The evening of November 3 I participated in the anti-war demonstration in San Francisco. Nice crowd, dogs, babies, the usual. We marched, we chanted, we sang old protest songs. But mostly we smiled at each other.

I heartily recommend at least one collective action per week: meet-up, house party, demonstration. Get out and take action with like minded folks. It will help your humour and keep you fighting.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:52 PM
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12. I've been doing that
and I heartily agree. I don't think I would have recovered anywhere as quickly as I have. Unfortunately, my heart would disagree on the recovery part. Apparently, I am channeling my broken heart through my actual heart. Bringing the poetic into the real. I should know by Friday (after a huge battery of tests these last two weeks - blessedly, I am one of the insured) if the heart is just stressed or truly broken.
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mslux Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:54 PM
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16. No offense meant but
G-d bless you with good health.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:32 PM
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27. No offense taken
I'm Wiccan but your God is more than welcome in my pantheon and I appreciate the sentiment.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:49 PM
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10. There are no ethics in the BFEE-none.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:51 PM
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11. "Freedom's Just Another Word for Nothing Left To Lose"
Yup.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:53 PM
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14. And that can be taken in the best of ways
and the worst.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:53 PM
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13. Been wondering where you were.
"Baby let your soul shine."

Putting all the energy to work is helping me.

On Tavis Smiley's program today, he talked with religious leaders about the difficulty of bringing to light difficult subjects. Sometimes you have to say unpleasant things in order to get your message across.

I loved the quote:

"Sometimes you comfort the afflicted.
Sometimes you afflict the comfortable."

Wherever I am, I let my feelings be known: Kerry won.

But I am also glad this isn't a media frenzy. Cameras and film crews and their trucks everywhere would hinder recounts. Better a quiet storm brewing than a fierce breeze that blows away to nothing.

There's a spirit to everything, Will. The spirit of the American people was for a man named Kerry. They were persecuted by a smaller group for their beliefs - via the polling place.

They will speak out when you and I and the rest of DU speak out. You'd be amazed how people will have the courage to back you once you get started on a subject.

As long as you breathe, don't give up.


:kick:

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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:53 PM
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15. What do you expect from a leaderless people?
What is so odd about the silence when the target of the voting irregularities fails to rally the troops? No sweat off his back, afterall, immune to the damage most Americans will suffer over the next 4 years, he can run again.

What is so odd about the silence over atrocities in Iraq and the erosion of free speech rights when the opposition party in Congress is more concerned about protecting their own 'electability' persona than standing up for what is right? Again, a group that has nothing to personally fear from the radicals in charge.

Use the power of your pen to address these failings and perhaps people will be motivated to force some changes. While the inspirational story of Brian Wilson chronicles a brave soul trying to make a difference, you'd do more to help his cause by creating some backlash against those that do nothing from a position of power.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:57 PM
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17. See my above post
What do I expect from leaderless people? Not much, just everything they can give and I expect each of them to find their little niche in which to lead.

The Impossible Will Take a Little While, a compilation by Paul Loeb is a highly useful reorientation manual. It was a lifesaver or at least a soulsaver to me. A reality check and a call to arms.
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mslux Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:04 PM
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19. Hope is believing in spite of the evidence,
then watching the evidence change.

Jim Wallis in his artical Faith Works, Chapter 26 of the book.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:58 PM
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18. an unfortunate characterization
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 12:59 PM by welshTerrier2
"the energy and hopefulness which had marked the long slog towards the vote had been replaced by a dimming of expectations, a hunch-shouldered feeling of despair."

i could not disagree more ... i see a fire growing on the left ... to be sure, we are disappointed we didn't fare better in the recent elections ... but i see a community of counter-punchers, not a bunch of beaten down, hunch-shouldered puppy dogs ...

it's a dangerous business "imprinting" such a label on warriors ... this is not the great stuff of fiery halftime oratory ...

i would also suggest that most here do not believe that "all that's left" is the fall ... if I believed that, I would indeed suffer the feeling of despair you described ... but I have great hope that we are seeing cracks in the empire's mighty fortress ... the truth is that bush's policies will be his undoing ... and we will stand against him, fully energized, to help him on his way ...
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:11 PM
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20. Is the battle worth continuing ?
What are we really fighting for? A politcal Party? For our country? For our family and children? For our democracy?
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:12 PM
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21. to each question you asked ...
my answer is: Yes ...

is there really any choice ??
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:21 PM
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22. let's try breaking this down to it's simplest terms . . .
both parties today are controlled by corporate interests . . . which means that neither party is really on the side of the people . . . the left/right dichotomy is a false one created by those in power to keep us, the little people, trashing each other and not engaging the real battle, i.e. the battle between the "haves" and the rest of us . . .

can the Democratic Party change? . . . can it return to its roots, get off the corporate teat, and start representing the people against the powerful interests once again? . . . I don't know . . . but given the role that money plays in politics, I kinda doubt it . . .

and, if it did, what would this change look like? . . . well, first and foremost, the party would have to renounce corporate contributions . . . and then we'd have to come out strongly against corporate "personhood" and for strict corporate regulation . . . we'd have to put ourselves squarely on the side of the people and against the corporate interests that, let's face it, run both the Congress and the country . . . to the severe detriment of all of us, and the planet itself . . .

so our task, if we are to keep working within the party, is to find a way to take it over from those whose very existance in politics depend on corporate largesse . . . this will require strong grassroots organizing, funding from alternative sources, immense amounts of commitment and hard work by millions, and a willingness to tell the truth about just who runs this country and what they're doing to it . . . will this happen? . . . personally, I have grave doubts . . . but I'm willing to do my part, whatever that may be . . .

what we need are leaders . . . yeah, yeah, I know . . . WE ARE the leaders! . . . well, I don't know about you, but when I talk, the media sure as hell doesn't listen . . . we need srong leaders with established visibility and a willingness to put their asses on the line to end the corporatocracy before it becomes a fascist theocracy . . . we need leaders like Paul Wellstone, i.e. leaders who are willing to tell the truth and take on the corporate interests tooth and nail . . . because everything that's going wrong in this country -- the war in Iraq, the threat to social security, the lack of healthcare for millions, the unfair tax structure, the outsourcing of jobs, the "New Freedom Initiative", the dismantling of environmental protections, etc. etc. etc. -- is the direct result of corporations controlling the Presidency, the Congress, and even the courts (which perpetuate the myth of corporate "personhood") . . .

this is not a battle between left and right, between pro-life and pro-coice, between gay rights and homophobia, between gun control and gun nuts . . . this is a battle between the powerful corporate interests who have taken over the country and the people . . . until we engage that battle foursquare, we're just spinning our wheels . . .
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:24 PM
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23. Now, now..we mustn't talk about "class warfare".....
and the Democrats say.....OK.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:28 PM
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26. great post, OneBlueSky ...
i am 100% on the same page ... i have nothing to add ... you said it all ...
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K to the YLE Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:40 PM
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29. I'm curious...
to your thoughts on the Green Party. I am probably wrong, but aren't they pretty much keeping alive the original ideals of the Democratic Party and doing it without the help of corporations? If I kinda have it right, do you see them as a source of hope for true change in America, or as causing a split in people who, without the Green Party, would all be liberal Democrats thus increasing the number of us? Personally I am torn on the issue, I fucking hate the way big business runs and ruins this country, and I admire the Greens for not taking their money, but, as I have stated before, the Greens have been chronic losers in the past and bad, so it is hard for me to put all my eggs in their basket, so to speak.
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m berst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 03:02 PM
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32. great post OneBlueSky
I think you are right when you talk about leaders, however, what do leaders have that you don't (in the spirit of breaking things down.)

I would say that leaders have celebrity and access. Can these not be overcome? On another post I actually used Will as an example of someone for whom we could be creating celebrity hood. Certainly having an hour of air time every day on one of the cable networks is powerful, but people still have to be talking about the show for it to have real power. When we are talking to others, are we inadvertently building the buzz around these celebrities at the expense of promoting our own? Can we not be doing more to create our own celebrities? Word of mouth is still a powerful component of this.

Access - what do we need access to ultimately? People, not networks and corporations. Those paths are blocked, yes. What paths are open? The Internet, surely. What other paths? Can not the underground and de-centralized nature of anything we do be turned into an advantage rather than a handicap?
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K to the YLE Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:26 PM
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24. The reason I'm a Democrat...
is because I truly believe in a party dedicated to fair labor, social and environmental justice, equality among all people...and I care, really I do, enough at least when doubt crosses my mind it saddens me. Has anyone else lately experienced thoughts of, "Is it really worth all the bullshit?" I mean, how much easier would it be to just forget it, forget what you know, go on living your life ignorant to the world around. Go out and buy that Hummer in all its gas guzzling glory, buy those new $200 Nikes made by a worker earning a few cents a day, say "I'm not gay, why do I care if homosexuals should be able to become happily married?", ignore the fact that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and we are taking more innocent lives there than they ever took here...shit, plenty of other people live like this everyday, ignorance is bliss and bliss sounds pretty fucking good right now...but thanks Will for your post...seeing other people really care (not that Will is the only one, since I found DU my faith is quickly becoming restored) and want others to care too is uplifting. We can't get cynical about the current state of affair, we have to remain positive and continue to work toward our objectives. On a side note, I recently had the opportunity to go to a presentation given by Jerry Genesio the founder of VFP and it was very enlightening. Thanks again Will, and all DUer continuing to fight the good fight...peaceout
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:28 PM
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25. Thank you
for the constant kick in the butt to keep fighting. :hug:
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:38 PM
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28. The passion still flows
Your essay reminds me of a similar time when morale had cratered and Ted Kennedy addressed the 1980 Democratic Convention:

"And may it be said of us, both in dark passages and in bright days, in the words of Tennyson that my brothers quoted and loved, and that have special meaning for me now:

"I am a part of all that I have met
To much is taken, much abides
That which we are, we are --
One equal temper of heroic hearts
Strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."


For me, a few hours ago, this campaign came to an end.

For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."

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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:36 PM
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31. I've been thinking lately that it might be our turn to plant the seeds
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 03:07 PM by deutsey
that may sprout in the next election, or maybe not until the next generation.

Think of all those who came before us, and I'm not talking about just the 1960s. I'm talking about the 1860s and '70s, in terms of American history. Think how former slaves felt after Reconstruction was sold out, and yet many of them continued to work hard for something they never lived to see. Think of the labor movement and the gains many of those in the movement contributed to even if they weren't around to enjoy the benefits. There are so many other examples.

Let's face it: the corporate elites in this country are successfully "repealing the 20th century," as one writer put it. All the gains that were fought for throughout that century are fading away and the progress is being rolled back.

In many ways, we all enjoyed the harvest of the hard work of generations that came before us and now it may be time for us to start planting and tending to a new harvest that we might not live to see.

That said, I'm still going to fight like hell to change my world in my lifetime.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 03:38 PM
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37. Jobs, Education, Health Care. Disappearance of the middle class.
Veterans and war.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 03:49 PM
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38. The crew of the train sued Wilson for stress
If I'm correct.

It's a funny ole world.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:18 PM
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39. LINK TO FINAL
With several changes:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/120304W.shtml

Thanks, everyone.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 06:33 PM
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40. .
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:03 AM
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41. Just got this amazing email
Dear Mr. Pitt,

I have been an avid fan of the Truthout digest for a year or two now, and
always look forward to your articles. I just wanted to share a small
anecdote about Brian Willson. I'm from California and was active in the
demonstrations at Concord Naval Weapons Station where Brian lost his legs.
My friend ****** ******* was with him that day and had to pick up his legs
out of the gravel.

Did you know that five days later, thousands rallied at Concord to protest
Brian's dismemberment? (The rally featured Joan Baez and Jesse Jackson,
among others.) Or that, after the rally, a thousand of us TORE UP A
QUARTER MILE OF RAILROAD TRACKS WITH WRENCHES, CROWBARS AND OUR BARE
HANDS? I have a marvelous photo in my living room of the action: like a
modern-day Iwo Jima pose, half a dozen comrades are levering two railroad
ties under a section of track.

It was one of my great moments of resistance. We can only hope that more
such moments await us. I'm not giving up, and I'm glad you're not either.
Peace,
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 04:23 AM
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42. thanks again, Will
I've been dejected and dispirited myself.

This gives me perspective.

We need leaders who seem to care. We should be in the streets like the citizens of the Ukraine.

Life gets in the way of life.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:52 AM
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43. "the Greens have been chronic losers "
On the grassroots level the Greens have been making successful progress.

As a Green I do not feel that I or my party members are chronic losers. Even if we never place a person on the Natl. level at least we have kept our ethics and stand for what we believe. I find some comfort in that. ;)
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K to the YLE Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 10:35 AM
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45. Sorry Disturbed...
it was not my attention to offend any Greens, when I used the term "losers" it wasn't a judgment of people involved in the Green party, which I admire a great deal, I just meant on a national level they have not been very successful in electing anyone. I vote Green on a local level, but in this past election I was more comfortable placing a vote for Kerry who I wasn't crazy about than for, uh...was it Cobb? Anyway, my apologies for my poorly stated post above. peaceout
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