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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:25 PM
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How many "fronts" are there in this battle?
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 12:26 PM by ewagner
My head is spinning trying to count all the different "fronts" the battle for the '04 election is involved in. As near as I can tell there are these:

Recounts in Ohio
Law Suits and possible recounts in Florida
Recounts in NV?
Recounts in WA state.
Sample recounts in NH (over?)

In addition to the "fronts" here, there are the things that Bush* and company are doing that need to be addressed also:

Alberto Gonzales appointment
Condi's appointment
Run up for a war with Iraq
Decimation of the CIA
Mandatory mental health testing (and possible mandatory drugging)
Assault on Reproductive rights


on edit:This thought was raised by Will Pitt's post on Total Opposition
my mind is spinning...can you think of others?

And a question, How the hell do we fight all this at one time?
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:35 PM
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1. The only way to fight it at one time is to start getting
people elected in ALL levels of government.

People around here have their heads in the clouds over some superstar 2008 election, but we'll be in no position to do anything if we don't get people with brains and common sense into government NOW.

(Sorry to vent; it gets to me sometimes.)
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:37 PM
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2. Venting is good
We need to be a lot less emotional about things and a hell of a lot smarter...cold-blooded even...in order to stop the conservatives from taking total and irrevocable control.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:01 PM
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5. ewagner did you hear about this meeting to get things organized?
I don't know how close you are to Appleton, but you may be interested in this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=186x3815
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:06 PM
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6. I'm about 2 hours
from Appleton.....

and on top of that I have a 7th Congressional District Caucaus to go to this weekend.....

I'd like to go but not sure I can make it.........

Thanks for posting, I didn't know about it.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:49 PM
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3. another front is the more general issue of privatizing elections
Why are democrats letting Republicans count the votes?

Great article on the DU's front page today by Ernest Partridge about this.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:55 PM
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4. Thanks for adding
to the list
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:28 PM
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7. more
Election fronts also include:

NY state senate race (odd differences between recount and machine count)


Other fronts not to forget:

Plame
Edmons
Energy task force secrecy (still alive)
9/11 Commission second report
CIA stifled report
Abu Ghraib (second round of abuses public didn't see)
700 million unauthorized money transfer (probably dead but shouldn't be)
Chalabi/Iran secrets
Halliburton investigation
Getting the word out about the environment
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:31 PM
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8. Whew!!!!
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 01:31 PM by ewagner
This is getting long enough for an INDEX!!!!

edited to say thanks.........
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:32 PM
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9. and the crime wave known as Tom Delay
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 01:33 PM by donkeyotay
No wonder we have outrage fatigue... they just keep creating more reality. Sooner or later all this reality they're creating is really going to screw this country over.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:42 PM
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10. the main front is the one no one is talking about . . .
and that's restoring citizen authority over corporations . . . I've done some rather extensive posting on this issue in the past, but it never seems to take hold . . . so I'll try one more time by referring to a couple of those threads (rather than re-posting everything here) . . . please take the time to look them over, because this is where the real battle lies . . . and until we engage it, nothing will change . . .

Ending Corporate Governance
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=22649&forum=DCForumID60&archive=

Ending Corporate Governance, Part 2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=1615&forum=DCForumID27&archive=
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:52 PM
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11. that's also important
it would be a huge change in the way we think and conduct commercial and political affairs......

Corporate "personhood" sucks!!!!!
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