Could this be true?

[L84TEA]

I was reading Baghdad Burning... this is what she states.
Really could we be using CHEMICAL WEAPONS? How would one find out or know? Is this ethical war practice?
I am just sick.


The worst part is that for the last couple of weeks we've been hearing about the use of chemical weapons inside Falloojeh by the Americans. Today we heard that the delegation from the Iraqi Ministry of Health isn't being allowed into the city, for some reason.
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don't know about the chemical weapons. It's not that I think the American military is above the use of chemical weapons, it's just that I keep wondering if they'd be crazy enough to do it.
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obviously doesn't know our president well?
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keep having flashbacks of that video they showed on tv, the mosque and all the corpses. There was one brief video that showed the same mosque a day before, strewn with many of the same bodies- but some of them were alive. In that video, there's this old man leaning against the wall and there was blood running out of his eyes- almost like he was crying tears of blood. What 'conventional' weaponry makes the eyes bleed? They say that a morgue in Baghdad has received the corpses of citizens in Falloojeh who have died under seemingly mysterious conditions.

http://www.riverbendblog.blogspot.com/
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[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. Ummm...

I am not saying that they were not used, as I would have no idea of knowing definitively. That said, a strong pressure wave, from an explosion, could rupture the small cappilaries in the eyes and cause that. Theoretically.

[gordianot]

High and low frequency sonics.

They also cause cerebral hemorrhages and do not leave a trace.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

6. Standing waves...

From an explosion are usually pretty low frequency.

I done gots me a degree in Audio Technomolology. hill, hill, hill. I know all about that there making the horrible noise. ;-)

[gordianot]

9. Years ago I saw Defense Dept. movies on fuel air explosions.

It convinced me the Army life was not for me.

Burn me alive with napalm you should go quick. Burn me slow with High voltage fields and let me die a slow and painful death even when I did not know when I was being hit.

The fuel air explosions (not napalm) are a horror to themselves. Pressure ruptures every membrane in your body to the cellular level.

Scalar weapons are the new rage and are shades of James Bond.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

10. Where have we deployed Scalar Weapons?

I mean, I read Cyberspace Orbit as much as the next wack job, but I have yet to see any definative proof of Scalar Weapons or them taking war shots.

On the other hand, we do have laser weapons and they have taken war shots.

[gordianot]

11. USA has High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP)

Which has been described a Scalar, own the weather by 2025.

Russia has the Woodpecker. The crowd control device may be portable Scalar, not necessarily Microwave.

As a hobby I used to play with high frequency lifters (expensive hobby, also not scalar). Hutchison of Hutchison effect fame (probably scalar) has lifted 70 pound cannon balls. He has also lifted liquid out of a glass, melted and changed metal at room temperature. In 2000 the Canadian government confiscated his apparatus. He has rebuilt.

This is James Bond SciFi. If those who tinker get these results imagine what organized funding could do. Telsa knew about zero point energy 70 years ago.

[Warpy]

3. Right, and the suspicious deaths without marks or wounds

could actually be crush injuries from falling rubble or pressure waves. You can die pretty quickly from a ruptured spleen or aorta or a lacerated or ruptured liver, and there won't be any outer signs, not even bruising, as the lividity post mortem travels with gravity.

Only an autopsy can determine cause of death in these cases, and the Iraqis are using the efforts of every doctor to try to help as many of their citizens to survive as possible.

That being said, we know they probably used CS gas, CX gas, pepper gas, and whatever "nonlethal" gas they also use on us.

[gordianot]

2. There may be worse things being used than Chemical weapons.

There is evidence of the possible use of high energy portable scalar weapons.

Who wants to be fried alive?

[Ducks In A Row]

4. Randi talked about it this wee. They're being "Cute" not calling...

it napalm, but it is. They been using it for awhile now. But our media of course can't be bothered to report it.

http://forum.therandirhodesshow.com/index.php?act=ST&f=89&t=39801

[L84TEA]

5. I thought any chemical weapon

was considered outlawed? But I guess Chimp boy marches to a different drum eh?

[gordianot]

8. Certain types of tear gas is allowed.

Smoke grenades are also allowed and have an irritant factor.

[Redleg]

7. I read that we are using white phosphorus ("willie pete") rounds

in Fallujah. A WP artillery round produces a thick, heavy smoke and fragmentation that burns skin, etc. WP is used for screening and for destroying POL dumps but is also effective against personnel.

A former Artilleryman

By the way, St. Barbara's day is in two days!

[hangloose]

12. I read an article yesterday that was entitled Poison gas used

to Falloojeh attack, but all the article brought forth was first hand accounts of people being burned by white phosphorus a really nasty substance that ignites and burns when coming into contact with air. Water won't work to stop the reaction. You have to smother it to stop it. But I guess the poor people of Iraq don't know that. This may be what is being confused with chemical weapons or poison gas.

[malaise]

13. Ethical

How can an illegal war be ethical?