Anti-DLC experiment --------Part 3

[xultar]

We're already boycotting red companies. Let's also boycott the corporations that donate to Democratic candidates. That would be easily found here Thanks to Jack Dawson for providing the link in his post yesterday.

http://www.choosetheblue.com/main.php

[LoZoccolo]

1. Yeah, let's start with Apple!

No let's NOT.

We were continually pummelled by the nuance-impaired this election...fuck we always are. Let's not join them.

[xultar]

2. Gotta add Costco!

[AP]

3. What don't we just boycott the wealth-concentrating, anti-worker, anti-

competition businesses?

You want airlines to work better? Fly Southwest and Jet Blue. You want the software industry to work better and allow people to build up more wealth? Buy something other than Microsoft OS. You want Haiti not to be a sweat shop haven? Buy American Apparel. You want to decentralize the power of the telecoms? Get Netflix if you really need to see movies, and go to independent theaters. You want big banks to get less money, and your own communities to get more money? Use a credit union, and don't use your credit card -- especially when you shop in stores owned by people in your community, and don't go into debt.

There are lots of way to use your economic power to your advantage rather that use it to diminish you political power and increase someone elses.

And some of those Democratic donors (and even some of the Republican ones) might be part of the solution, not the problem.

[xultar]

5. I always use cash in local boutiques so they don't have to pay the fee

or I'll spend a lot of dough buy a lot of stuff and use my card.

[Smarmie Doofus]

4. Great idea, great site; but....

why boycott corps. that donate to dems ??? I believe raising corporate $$$ is how the game is played.

Otherwise, I'm on board and have already bookmarked the site.

[xultar]

9. There's been a huge bruhaha here about the whole DLC/DNC thing

personally I'm not for or against the DLC. I think we have bigger issues than to do an exercism right now.

But if we do a purge right now these are the people we need to purge...

Karen Carter, State Representative, LA
Ben Chandler Attorney General, KY
Ken Cheuvront, State Senator, AZ
Carol J. Chumney State Representative, TN
Ken Clark, State Representative, AZ
Michael B. Coleman, Mayor, Columbus, OH
Christoper Coons, County Council President, New Castle County, DE
Roy Cooper, Attorney General, NC
Lou Correa, State Assemblymember, CA
Cathy Cox, Secretary of State, GA
Lou D'Allesandro, State Senator, NH
Preston A. Daniels, Mayor, Des Moines, IA
Ryan Deckert, State Senator, OR
Rocky Delgadillo, City Attorney, Los Angeles
Peter Derby, Trustee, Village of Irvington, NY
Doug Duncan, Montgomery County Executive, MD
John Fernandez, Mayor, Bloomington, IN
Barry R. Finegold, State Representative, MA
Eric Fingerhut State Senator, OH
Joan Fitz-Gerald, Senate Minority Leader, CO
Jamie Fleet, Borough Councilmember, Gettysburg, PA
Dan B. Frankel, State Representative, PA

Shirley Franklin, Mayor, Atlanta, GA
John Fritchey, State Representative, IL
Michael Garcia, State Representative, CO

Gabrielle Giffords, State Senator, AZ
Ron Gonzales, Mayor, San Jose, CA
Ron Greenstein, State Representative, FL
Wendy Greuel, City Councilmember, Los Angeles
Dan Grossman, State Senator, CO
Karen Hale, State Senator, UT
Bob Henriquez, State Representative, FL
Daniel W. Hynes, State Comptroller, IL
Gilda Z. Jacobs, State Senator, MI
Douglas Jennings Jr., House Democratic Leader, SC
Steven B. Jones, State Representative, AR
Steve Kelley, State Senator, MN
Randy C. Kelly, Mayor, St. Paul, MN
Kwame Kilpatrick, Mayor, Detroit
Rick Kriseman, City Councilmember, St. Petersburg, FL
Annie Kuether, State Representative, KS
Leah Landrum Taylor, State Representative, AZ
Peter J. Larkin, State Representative, MA
Louis N. Magazzu, Freeholder, Cumberland County, NJ
Dannel P. Malloy, Mayor, Stamford, CT
Jennifer L. Mann, State Representative, PA
Jack Markell, State Treasurer, DE
Bill McConico, State Representative, MI
Matt McCoy, State Senator, IA
Jonathan Miller, State Treasurer, KY
Thomas Miller, State Attorney General, IA
Richard H. Moore, State Treasurer, NC

John Morrison, State Auditor, MT
Eva Moskowitz, City Councilmember, New York
Charles A. Murphy, State Representative, MA
George Nakano, State Assemblymember, CA
Gavin C. Newsom, Board of Supervisors, San Francisco
Michael A. Nutter, City Councilmember, Philadelphia
Martin O'Malley, Mayor, Baltimore
Barack Obama, State Senator, IL
Alex Padilla, City Council President, Los Angeles
Al Park, State Representative, NM
William Peduto, City Councilmember, Pittsburgh
Beverly Eaves Perdue, Lieutenant Governor, NC
Eddie A. Perez, Mayor, Hartford, CT
Bart Peterson, Mayor, Indianapolis
Jeff Plale, State Senator, WI
Aaron Reardon, State Senator, WA
Eric M. Reeves, State Senator, NC
Stacy J. Ritter, State Representative, FL
Laura Ruderman, House Caucus Vice Chair, WA

Ken Salazar, Attorney General, CO

Ron Sims, County Executive, King County, WA
Allyson Y. Schwartz, State Senator, PA
Andrew J. Spano, County Executive, Westchester County, NY
Eliot Spitzer, State Attorney General, NY
Greg Stanton, Vice Mayor, Phoenix
Peter M. Sullivan, State Representative, NH
Mark F. Taylor, Lieutenant Governor, GA

William C. Thompson Jr., Comptroller, New York City
Michael L. Thurmond, State Labor Commissioner, GA
Juan Vargas, State Assemblymember, CA
Jennifer L. Veiga, House Minority Leader, CO
Jack Weiss, City Councilmember, Los Angeles
Steve Westly, State Controller, CA
Michael J. Wildes, City Councilmember, Englewood, NJ
Constance H. Williams, State Senator, PA
Phil Wise, State Representative, IA
David Yassky, City Councilmember, Brooklyn, NY
Matt Brown, Secretary of State, RI
Robert A. Butkin, State Treasurer, OK
Jane L. Campbell, Mayor, Cleveland, OH
Jaime Capelo, State Representative, TX
Adolfo Carrion, Jr. Bronx Borough President, NY
Philip Angelides, State Treasurer, CA
Patrice M. Arent, State Senator, UT
Loranne Ausley, State Representative, FL
Thurbert Baker, Attorney General, GA
Ethan Berkowitz, House Democratic Leader, AK
Jim Doyle Governor WI
Michael Easley Governor NC
Jennifer Granholm Governor MI
Bob Holden Governor MO
Gary Locke Governor WA
Ruth Ann Minner Governor DE
Ronnie Musgrove Governor MS
Janet Napolitano Governor AZ
Ed Rendell Governor PA
Bill Richardson Governor NM
Kathleen Gilligan Sebelius Governor KS
Tom Vilsack Governor IA
Mark Warner Governor VA
Max Baucus U.S. Senator MT
Evan Bayh U.S. Senator IN
John Breaux U.S. Senator LA
Maria Cantwell U.S. Senator WA
Tom Carper U.S. Senator DE
Hillary Clinton U.S. Senator NY
Kent Conrad U.S. Senator ND
Christopher Dodd U.S. Senator CT
Dianne Feinstein U.S. Senator CA
Bob Graham U.S. Senator FL
Tim Johnson U.S. Senator SD
John Kerry U.S. Senator MA
Herb Kohl U.S. Senator WI
Mary Landrieu U.S. Senator LA
Joe Lieberman U.S. Senator CT
Blanche Lincoln U.S. Senator AR
Bill Nelson U.S. Senator FL
Ben Nelson U.S. Senator NE
Mark Pryor U.S. Senator AR
Debbie Stabenow U.S. Senator MI

[Gold Metal Flake]

11. Now YOU have the list!

It's certainly making the rounds.

Now, assuming that the growing list is not just an attempt to intimidate those who would seek to further the Progressive Movement by suggesting that we eliminate all those people from the party and, oh I don't know, allow by default Republicans to take their places because "we must remove the melanoma by decapitation", I am sure that you can present compelling reasons for each name to justify their removal.

Surely the list was presented in ernest. I look forward to your detailed justifications for the removal of each one.

[xultar]

16. I want them to see who all they have to purge...

that is why I don't get the purge movement. If we eleminate the DLC do we have to ask for loyalty oaths? Then what's next...'The List'

Any Dem candidate that ever accepted or will accept corporate dollars is no longer a DEM and is automatically a rethuglican.

Someone explain this whole purge thing and why now when we've got so much more important crap to lose?

[greenohio]

17. Uhh, the DLC is PEOPLE not this thing....

when you say you want to get rid of the DLC, or you hate the DLC then you are talking about the people in that list.

[AP]

12. Some great Dems are on that list: Minner, Stabenow, Spitzer, D'Allesandro

[greenohio]

18. Yup, all DLCers. The DLC are people too.

They have signed on and have allowed their names to be publicly placed on the DLC website.

[AP]

19. Well, I'm going to give WWWAAAYYY more weight to what they do as pols

than to the fact that their name is on a list (which means just about nothing).

[Lydia Leftcoast]

20. We can *definitely* purge Randy Kelly (mayor of St. Paul)

He endorsed Bush.

What good is he?

[NYCGirl]

6. Sorta like dealing with a melanoma on one's face by cutting off one's head

NT

[Gold Metal Flake]

8. Yes, decapitation is the only way.

As you see it the only treatment is to allow the melanoma to spread, thus killing you, or decapitation, thus killin you.

Talk about nuance impaired.

[NYCGirl]

10. No, you're incorrect. You remove the melanoma. The original poster

recommended boycotting all Democratic supporters to get rid of the DLC. Perhaps you missed the nuance.

[Gold Metal Flake]

13. I see many posts that suggest....

...we have no hope of returning the core of our party to it's Progressive roots. There is no nuance in the politics of fear.

But you are incorrect that I missed the nuance. What I did was miss the post order. All of the sudden I was responding to you in this thread thinking about a different thread. I do that sometimes. Web forum dyslexia. So, my response to you above is invalid, but stupid enough to warrant it's retention from standpoint of the goofyness factor. See, this is why I don't try to lead movements.

[Gold Metal Flake]

7. May I sugest that we work to redirect the money streams?

As the center-right candidates come up for reelection, we must bring forth Progressive alternatives and work for them. We must also find the ways to convince the donators that these candidates have a better plan for the future of our country. By 2006, things will be very ugly economically, and everyone will be hurting. That will make for a convenient opportunity to contrast the failed economic policies of the center-right, the right, and what calls itself "conservative" with a more human, equitable alternative. There will be a lot of service and retail businesses that will suffer badly as we will suffer. We need to bring them on. Start with the companies and industries that are closer to our personal economies. We can't do a lot about corrupt corporate banking, energy, war machine and media conglomerates, but when it comes to food, clothing, hardware, private banking, transportation and electronics, we have tremendous control.

[Blue Wally]

14. And what happens....

if the economy is chugging along in 2006??? Never plan on things that far ahead. Hell, Bush may have a scheme to bail out of iraq by then. You need to be positive and develop both positions and candidates for the future, not count on winning because the other guy failed.

[Cheswick2.0]

15. you still don't get it

sorry