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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:14 PM
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Why Should Dean supporters be asked "who are they supporting?"
I didn't know, and never claimed, that IA was the be-all and end all of the primary season.

Someone want to clue me in on the new news, because I missed that memo?
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:15 PM
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1. Because people are keyed up and emotional. :-)
Edited on Mon Jan-19-04 10:15 PM by jpgray
And some people want to stir the pot. :(
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:19 PM
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8. ding ding ding
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:24 PM
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14. On both sides, though
Edited on Mon Jan-19-04 10:24 PM by jpgray
One candidate supporter might say "This is a vote towards insider DLC interests, and I may consider voting elsewhere", but then another might say "Since candidate X is totally dead, who is your second choice?", and then another might say "See, I told you candidate Y's supporters wouldn't go ABB!"

And the nonsense just continues and continues. :(
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:22 PM
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13. Yes, certain people can't resist rubbing salt in the wounds.
Let their actions speak for themselves (Hint--- they're ass hats, as my s/o says). :hi:
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:16 PM
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2. here here, kef.
Had a little fit of pique myself a while ago, but I'm better now. :)

On to the rest of the affair.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:16 PM
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3. Dean came in 3rd, Gephardt 4th
Gephardt's getting out tomorrow, so I guess they think Dean will fold too. LOL They don't know much about us Deaniacs. I say "Bring it on".
Dean and we will recover and come back stronger - not to worry.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:18 PM
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4. That's why I've decided there is no second
only Dean or no Dean.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:19 PM
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7. We get it. nt
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:21 PM
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10. that's too bad Walt
please reconsider, if necessary

if you support Dean, then you must know that Bush will end our democracy
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:18 PM
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5. The answer to the question is obvious: Dean!
This is one small battle, and there's a long road ahead yet. I wish my guy had the resources available to him that the Dean campaign does. Cheer up, guys--- it ain't overt 'til it's over! :hi:
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Clark4VotingRights Donating Member (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:18 PM
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6. Hey, it was another Dean supporter (Don) that started a poll
asking who y'all would support now.

I put it on ignore, as I have will all the other negative
Dean threads, and as I'll do with this thread.

Don't ignore the nice threads, see only the jerky
threads, and lash out at everyone.
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:32 PM
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25. You should really work on your reading skills
Why was my thread a negative one? Why was it a jerky thread? You clearly didn't read the thing if that's what you think.
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:35 PM
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27. Poll question: Poll for Dean Supporters: Who is your #2?
Explain the "jerky" part of this. Explain how it's a negative Dean thread. You've insulted me, and I'm calling you on it. Explain yourself.

From the poll:
No, I'm not giving up, not by a long way. But tonight does give me pause and make me think about all of the what if's. So, if Howard Dean doesn't happen to get the nomination, who is your #2 choice?

Did you notice the FIRST SENTENCE IN THE POST? Allow me to reprint it for you:

No, I'm not giving up, not by a long way.
No, I'm not giving up, not by a long way.
No, I'm not giving up, not by a long way.
No, I'm not giving up, not by a long way.
No, I'm not giving up, not by a long way.
No, I'm not giving up, not by a long way.
No, I'm not giving up, not by a long way.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:20 PM
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9. I'm still backing Dean and it's not over
Folks this is the first primary. Many front runners stumble along the way and many eventual Democratic nominee winners don't their first contest. Dean isn't throwing in the towel and neither are his supporters. I still stand with my candidate - Howard Dean.

I congratulate Kerry's campaign and supporters and now it's on to NH.

Sonia
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:21 PM
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11. Because They Know We Are Awesome, Relentless and Loom Large!
Take it as a compliment.

Gephardt was the one that lost tonight.

The upcoming Battle Royale between Kerry and Clark in New Hampshire will not cost Dean one percentage point, Keph! You heard it from me.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:21 PM
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12. The loyalty police haven't come knocking to your door yet?
Expect the goon squad to appear shortly...
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:29 PM
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19. If they get me
You better watch out. I know where you live. ;-)

It's kinda hard considering your window's posters. ;-)
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HalfManHalfBiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:24 PM
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15. Because Dean is a defeated man
He was killed in Iowa. Destroyed.

Kerry's momentum will bury him in NH.

He never stood a chance in SC.

Game over.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:26 PM
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17. that's some crystal ball you have there
:eyes:
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:29 PM
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20. Nonsense
nt
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:29 PM
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22. Nice, HalfMan... Way Ta Pull The Troops Together !!!
Can we count on YOU in the foxhole???

:grr:
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:30 PM
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23. He never stood a chance in SC.
Oh, Prophet! Please tell us how we should vote! You evidently know all the answers!
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yellowdog Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:25 PM
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16. I am a Dean man and will be as long as the
good Doctor is around, but if something should happen (Great Spirit forbid) Edwards is my second choice. But who ever comes out on top, I WILL be voting for that person in November. Not Green, not Libertarian, but solid Democrat.
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:28 PM
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18. Because the pukes and their pals in the Dem-lite establishment
Care more about crushing our movement than they do about "beating" Bush?

Who knows?

I am not supprting anyne else until this thing is OVER, and maybe not even then.
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hellhathnofury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:29 PM
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21. Think loyalty test.
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:31 PM
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24. If you're asking about the poll I started
I'm not sure what you're referring to, but if you happen to be talking about the poll I started, I was pretty clear that I wasn't conceding anything, but that on a night like tonight it was inevitable that Dean supporters would be pondering the what-if questions, ergo, the poll.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:32 PM
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26. It's "Irrational Exhuberance," being exhibited.
Sorry.....didn't know what else to say.

But it's not over yet!
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:38 PM
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28. kef, I just posted in the thread that asks for second choices...
...that Iowa is instructive but not necessarily predictive.

Iowa's results may show which candidates DNC party insiders support, and, while that's important for Dean to know, it's not an omen. Not by a long shot.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:40 PM
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29. Because people always blow things way out of proportion here
and it happens on all sides- Kerry's people were down in the dumps when he fired his campaign staff- game over. Dean people thought the nomination was theirs based on meaningless polls and the Gore endorsement. Game over. Clark people think that Dean is dead and their guy is annointed based on causcuses that actually strengthen his toughest demograpphic rivals.... ect.

Cooler heads know that the game has only just begun and this is but the opening move. Moreover, if there's one thing Dean and Trippi have proven over the course of the last year is that they learn from their mistakes and readily adapt to changing circumstances. This is just one more such instance.
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