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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:36 AM
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We lost for ONE reason and ONE reason ONLY
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 11:43 AM by CatWoman
VOTE FRAUD.

Wash. rinse. repeat.

VOTE FRAUD.

And we will keep on losing as long as Republican companies control our voting process.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:37 AM
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1. No question.
You can't convince me otherwise. The exit polls have never been wrong before, how could they be that wrong this time? Doesn't make any sense.
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:44 AM
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7. No, thats not true...the exit polls have been wrong before
IN 2000!!!!!! but in the end they turned out to be right too--GORE DID WIN THEN and KERRY WON NOW, damnit!
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 01:07 PM
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16. Told ya.
:shrug:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:37 AM
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2. And as long as Republican companies control the media.
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 11:40 AM by blm
And defense contractors are allowed to promote war on our airwaves.

I think taking issue with both the GOP ownership of most media and the voting machines are of paramount importance to the future of democracy.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:41 AM
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4. Yup-until we have a free media, voter fraud will never be addressed
seriously. The Repukes will be stealing elections for the remainder of our lives if we don't do something about the media.
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BamaLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:40 AM
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3. Amen!
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:42 AM
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5. Actually we prefer the term "Vote Fraud"
but that's just a nit pick. Hiya Cat's.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:43 AM
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6. Rock
:hi:

good point. :D
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:46 AM
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8. And I meant to say
You are right on point, though. I always read your posts, CatWoman.
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:48 AM
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9. You the woman,
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 11:48 AM by tngledwebb
Feline Female. A post for a post and truth trumps the spin!
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:48 AM
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10. So, what do we do about it?
What can WE do about it?

Who has ideas on getting the media to be unbiased? Clear channel has announced that they are going to carry only Fox news.

I hope the DNC has lawyers working on the fraud part. What should we be doing?

I feel somewhat helpless, but I am not yet hopeless. I hope that someone can come up with a plan and we can organize behind it.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:48 AM
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11. Vote fraud AND vote suppression
(Our chief weapon is surprise...and fear. Our TWO chief weapons...)
Don't discount the deliberate suppression of votes...by Republican operatives throwing out Democratic registrations, as happened in Oregon, South Dakota, and Nevada (and who knows how many other states)...by Blackwell tossing out ballots not printed on a certain weight of paper (in direct violation of the Voting Rights Act)...by disinformation campaigns in largely Democratic neighborhoods (such as happened around the country)...by last minute relocation of polling places in largely Democratic areas.
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Suziq Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:55 AM
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12. Bingo!
Say it LOUD - VOTE FRAUD!

I also feel the media is to blame as well.

:hippie:
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:56 AM
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13. #x#!@^!##X*%%@#!!
j/k :)

Seriously, I hope it turns out that way, I really do, and I hope they find Bush is behind it all.

What frustrates me, though, is reading some of the articles, whose authors claim they have proof and names, but then you wait weeks and never hear back from them.

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canadianbeaver Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 12:03 PM
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14. Election Fraud and Voter suppresion......
It wasn't Vote Fraud..it was Election Fraud..makes it sound like the voter did the fraud...well maybe those Freepers that voted twice in Ohio...

Just my thought...
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gennifer6 Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 12:11 PM
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15. We lost for two reasons......now what to do about it.
One: computerized voting screens with no paper trail, who's the idiot that let that one slide? That's asking for fraud to happen.
And the CEOs of voting machine companies are blatantly Republican.


Two: Ken Blackwell is the Secretary of Stae in Ohio in charge of the elction and was ALSO Bush's Ohio campaign director. That's a BLATANT conflict of interest, how can that even be legal?

We let it happen.....
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