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ArtVandaley Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:40 PM
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Ok, say Dean isn't the DNC chair
Who should be?
Who would put forth the message that we as a party are moving forward? Who could get out new voters in red/swing states? Who will stay true to core progressive values?

Seriously, who will? Any ideas? I'd suggest that we don't go with a WASP male, the democratic party needs to be diverse and not just in rhetoric.
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:57 PM
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1. I'm all for Donna Brazil, Carol Mosely-Braun, or Al Sharpton N/T
SAAKALs every one.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:33 PM
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5. Someone not "chirping on a blackberry" with Karl Rove, please
Sharpton, for all his unmatched eloquence has his allegiance problems too.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:39 PM
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8. I would drive sheet metal screws into my eyes if Brazille gets the nod
:puke:
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:05 PM
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17. enlighten me....why? N/T
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:12 PM
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19. Her tenure with Gore was lousy
Her statements during this election were lousy, and her statements post-election have been particularly prone to sliding knives between our shoulder blades. I don't trust, like, or respect her. I can dig up some links if I have to.
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:43 PM
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20. Gore actually WON the popular vote.
I think Donna speaks truth to power...she's certainly not a kiss ass, anyway.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:26 PM
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24. Likewise
What a blowhard she is...
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:00 PM
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2. Carol Mosely-Braun was, by far, the most qualified person to be president.
Alas, America does not deserve someone like her.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:24 PM
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3. Horse manure!
You're obviously not from IL, if you can say that with a straight face.

:eyes:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 02:49 PM
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29. I'm from Illinois, and CMB was a GREAT candidate!
Straight face and all.
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:39 PM
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25. er.....why, exactly? not disagreeing, just....why?? nt
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:31 PM
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4. Someone with a spine
Would be a nice change.

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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:36 PM
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6. If Not Dean
It won't matter. Nothing will change. DLC wins.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:38 PM
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7. I have to agree
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 08:39 PM by incapsulated
Unless they go nuts and give it to Kucinich or something, haha.

(Yes, I know this is impossible, it's a joke)
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Johnny Noshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:40 PM
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9. Amen
If Dean doesn't get a shot at giving this party some backbone it really will be more of the same old same old.

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely,the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
-- H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)

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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:42 PM
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10. Not necessarily.
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 08:47 PM by janx
I wish I could remember the guy's name--Rosenberg? There is someone who is in the DFA philosophy camp who has been mentioned in connection with this.

Can somebody help me out here?
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Johnny Noshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:52 PM
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12. Yeah okay
I know the guy you're talking about and yeah okay he'd be good too - I can't remember his name either :think: Actually if Howard wasn't the DNC chair it would make it easier to gear up for '08. I'll be ready to head for the snows of New Hampshire again. Man it is cooold there in January!

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely,the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
-- H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)

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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 09:15 PM
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15. Whoa--it's far too early to even think about 2008!
But it was great of you to work in the cold in NH.

My hat is off to you!
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:53 PM
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13. Rosenberg
He was mentioned in the Times piece about the new progressive groups and financiers like the Phoenix Group:

http://tinyurl.com/49p8x
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 09:12 PM
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14. Thank you! That's a very interesting and thorough article, incap.
Although I don't agree with the Bai's rendition of Dean's primary campaign as a "classic liberal crusade, in the Jerry Brown mold, only with more money"...

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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 09:25 PM
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16. I remember when it came out
It gave me some hope, in terms of what people were doing, for the future of the party. There seemed to be some really good ideas there, some of them already implemented (like MoveOn). Let's see how it all turns out. I don't know if Rosenberg is even interested in the position, though. There was a discussion about him on dailykos:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/12/6/112326/490

When the delegates were "polled", Dean came out in front for the Chair. It sounds like they are starting to stray off the reservation.

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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:08 PM
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18. I agree, but....
The OP specified no WASPS. Think people of color....

Ben Nighthorse Campbell?

LOLOLOLOL!~!
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ArtVandaley Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 02:36 PM
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26. Even if it's Noam Chomsky or Michael Moore?
Not serious suggestions of course. But the idea that Dean is the only person in America who isn't either a DLC democrat or a republican is a somewhat blind approach to the process.
I do like Dean though.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:49 PM
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11. Kweisi Mfume
Recently resigned head of the NAACP and my former congressman.

http://www.horizonmag.com/2/mfume.htm
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040712-103848-4561r.htm
http://www.nndb.com/people/923/000024851/

Of course, there are strong rumors that if Sen Paul Sarbanes (D-MD) steps down in 2006 (he will be 71) Mfume may run for the seat ... and I suspect he would stand a good chance of winning.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:14 PM
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21. We need Dean in there. He can simplify and push the truth out in their
faces. They throw the rep off. he is a strong front man.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:21 PM
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22. well if we don't get someone like dean, then were fu** in 06, 08, 12
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:25 PM
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23. Let's just give Max Headroom the job! We can make him say anything
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 02:41 PM
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27. Alaska recount deadline today!
Sorry to change the subj. -I'm too new to start a new thread. Will anyone match the $25.00 I just sent to Alaska Recount 2004? The deadline is 5:00 today!
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 02:45 PM
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28. If Dean isn't the chair...
Then chances are, I don't care.
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