Congratulations Order of Skull and Bones! One of your own won Iowa!

[seventhson]

We all know that Alexandra Robbins Warned the world about the danger of a Skull vs. Skull Presidential race.

John Kerry, a current member of Skull and Bones with BOTH Bushes, won the Iowa primary tonight in what I honestly believe is a well orchestrated dance of the macabre.

We are now one step closer to that dreaded moment when TWO members of the most notorious and elitist secret societies of the wealthiest Americans at perhaps the most prestigious University in America will figuratively emerge from their "tomb" to do a political battle for supremacy in the most powerful government the world has ever known.

No matter who wins this battle (if it is between Kerry and Bush) the ORDER of Skull and Bones wins. One of their own will again be our president.

Read the interview with Alexandra Robbins (who has posted here at DU) at this link and CONSIDER whether you can support this man in New Hampshire.

Please. The future of America is in our hands. WE have the power.

http://www.guerrillanews.com/counter_intelligence/doc808.html


Robbins: "I think the fact that Skull & Bones has another president in power is just another mode of encouragement that will lead it to continue its traditions and lead it to continue to do what it has always done. And I think the current political scene is probably evidence of that. In 2000, let’s look at the four men who were on the ballot. You had George W. Bush, a member of Skull & Bones. You had Al Gore, a graduate of Harvard. You had Dick Cheney who is distantly related to a family of Skull & Bonesmen. And you had Joseph Lieberman who was a member of another secret society at Yale. In 2004, it could very well be the first Bones vs. Bones ballot, with George W. Bush against Senator John Kerry, a 1966 graduate of Skull & Bones. It seems that we see the same cycles of people over and over again and, as much as we say this is 2002, this is America, this is a democracy, we are still seeing the candidates coming from the same tiny political pool."


Question: "So how do you feel about that? Describe the implications for us."


Robbins: "Frankly I don’t think members of Skull & Bones should be running the country. I don’t feel comfortable with a group that’s historically been misogynistic, has had anti-Semitic members, has been prejudiced in the past, and has been linked with Hitler and the atomic bomb. I don’t think these people should have such an influence on our country, and yet we see them in journalism, in business, running the CIA, running the Supreme Court and running the U.S. government. I think the only way to tear this society down is to penetrate its secrets and to spread awareness about it so that people know what’s going on and when they see politicians capitalizing on Skull & Bones, constituents can call them on it."

Kerry used his money and his connections to make tonight happen the way it did. It was a well planned strategy. We cannot let that hold IMHO.



P.S. I LIKE Edwards.

Edwards and Dean in any combo will work for me and for all of us.

[Bucky]

1. Oh Seven, there's no need to be pissy

3rd ain't so bad for Dean

[shance]

25. I dont know Buck, S&B have not the most "Democratic" past shall we say?

I dont see John Kerry, who has never in his life, been an ordinary American, actually know how to empathize with the unemployed these days. Thats who we want for a Democratic candidate?

Push comes to shove, this should concern Democrats.

[Phelan]

43. how about that other candidate?

If you attack John Kerry, a man that fought for this country, for being out of touch with working class americans what do you say about a candidate that grew up in NYC most affluent area, went to an Ivy league under grad and a Ivy league grad school and enjoyed all the other positions of priviledge, such as not serve in the military with poor people? And no I am not talking about Dubya, I am talking about Dean.

[polpilot]

72. Kerry on MTP '03: 'George Bush is a good man trying to do good things.'

That ought to put the fear of god in the repubs.

Dean '04...

[lancdem]

2. So all those caucus-goers who voted for Kerry

were members of Skull & Bones? :shrug:

[IndianaGreen]

58. Kerry made his Bones in secret club - like Bush

Kerry made his Bones in secret club - like Bush

by Andrew Miga
Thursday, May 15, 2003

WASHINGTON - Sen. John F. Kerry expounds on many issues in his presidential campaign, but he's completely silent on one topic: his membership in Skull and Bones, Yale's infamous secret society.

``John Kerry has absolutely nothing to say on that subject. Sorry,'' said Kerry spokeswoman Kelley Benander.

Kerry is a respected senator and a decorated Vietnam War combat veteran, but 36 years after he was initiated into what has been called the ``ultimate old boy network,'' he's wary of breaking the ultra-exclusive club's strict secrecy code.

There's also another high-profile member of the club: President Bush.

Bonesmen already are buzzing over the prospect of the first Bones vs. Bones presidential race should Kerry win his party's nomination and face Bush in 2004.

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/kerry_made_his_bones_in_secret_club

[blondeatlast]

68. Snarf! Of course they were--they didn't put Dean in first place, did they?

[mitchum]

3. Geronimo's skull and I are having a good laugh...

at paranoid ravings.

Don't be pissy

[incapsulated]

4. Those grapes..

they're sour! :puke:

[Carni]

5. I own that book

I was very disappointed by the "secrets" revealed in it.
Frankly there weren't many...the most exciting thing about that read were the promos about it.

At this point I don't care if the Dem candidate was a member of the Manson family as long as they can kick bush's butt back to his pig farm.

[seventhson]

13. actually the interview

is way better than the book. She got some heat for being too close to Skull and being too nice to them in the book from another Yalie who writes exposes on Skull (Ron Rosenbaum of the NY Obserevr)

I gave her heat on this board too for being too light on them.

This interview IMHO ivindicates her, though (althpugh very few have seen it).

It is one of the only articles I have EVER seen which addresses the Kerry/Bush and Skull implications of the 2004 race.

[Karmadillo]

6. I saw Satan dancing with delight the day John Kerry won

the Iowa caucus. I did! Honest!

[AntiCoup2K4]

44. And he was singin.....

Bye Bye Miss American Pie
Gave the government to PNAC
Now we're all gonna die

Those Skull & Bones boys
were drinkin whiskey & rye
Sayin "this is the day Democracy dies"
"This is the day democracy dies"...

I'll have to finish that song later :evilgrin:

[jus_the_facts]

49. no disrespect intended.."...Kerry wears bones and ya gotta believe me.."

...."...I saw it...I saw it...with my own two eyes!" *ala Black Sabbath~Fairies Wear Boots* :evilgrin:


on edit....guess we'll have to wait'n'see...if the Presidency is Kerry's destiny? :tinfoilhat:

[Hoppin_Mad]

7. Thanks - I've always loved your skull and bones posts :-) -nt-

[jpgray]

8. Let all bear witness, I predicted this in another thread

And again, I will fight this ridiculous nonsense everywhere it appears.

How is S&B radically different than other Ivy League secret societies? It isn't. Not a bit.

But jpgray! S&B members in the past have been anti-Semites and Hitler supporters! Hey, so Ezra Pound and T.S. Eliot were anti-Semitic back in the early days of the century, and if you were an Ivy League banker, odds are you sent some capital Hitler's way in the thirties, and maybe the forties.

But jpgray! S&B members do SECRET things... they're really secret, maybe it's (insert really diabolical evil thing here). Again, same as your average, run of the mill Ivy League "secret society".

For crying out loud, the roll is published, there have been flippin' BOOKS on the subject concerning everything down to GHW Bush's sex confessions. It's not that secret, it's not that sinister, it's just another stupid old boys' club in the ivy league.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

12. Other "evil" Bonesmen:

William Sloane Coffin, anti-war activist, and Archibald Macleish, poet.

I spent nine years at Yale as a grad student, and Skull and Bones are just one of several secret societies at Yale: Berzelius and Book and Snake were two that I recall. One of the chaplains of the religious group I belonged to was a member of Berzelius, and he was decidedly unsinister.

The secret societies were a joke to most students. A bunch of them one year made up a fake secret society called Shake and Bake, with the motto "And we helped."

[Karmadillo]

Shake and Bake!?

Smart people with a sense of humor are dangerous. I hope you've reported them to the appropriate DC authorities.

[seventhson]

17. I will let Robbins address that point: (from the above link)

Question: Tell me – how is Skull & Bones any different from any typical fraternity that would seek to make its practices secret to non-members?

Alexandra Robbins:


Skull & Bones isn’t your typical fraternity. Within the Tomb, for example, there is a very strong death motif and a very strong war motif… There are dozens of skulls in the Tomb both human and animal, there is supposedly a mummy, there is the gravestone of Elihu Yale that was stolen from Rexom, Wales, sometime in the 20th century probably. I was told by a Bonesman that the idea of the death motif is to remind you that life is short and that there is an unspoken pressure to achieve, and to follow in the footsteps of all of the prominent alumni before you before you die. And that’s really what Skull & Bones is about. It’s about power. Your typical fraternity – I would think there is more of an element of fun. There is no alcohol in Skull & Bones, which is also another big difference between Skull & Bones and fraternities. You won’t see a kegger in the Tomb.


Skull & Bones has always had a distinguished roster of alumni, but we really see them coming into power in the early 20th century, first with William Howard Taft – the only man ever to be President of the United States and Supreme Court Chief Justice. At least two of the men he appointed to his eleven-man cabinet were members of the Skull & Bones. Then you see the Harrimans come in the early 1900s. The Harrimans had the largest private bank in the country, filled it with Bonesmen, and when W.A. Harriman merged with Brown Brothers, it was because of the Skull & Bones partners at each bank and then by 1972, more than 1/3 of the partners at Brown Brothers Harriman were members of Skull & Bones. Moving on you see members of Skull & Bones operating as directors on the boards of banks that did stowe money for Hitler. During WW II, Henry Stimson, a prominent Bonesman who believed that men weren’t really of quality unless they went to Andover, Yale and then through Skull & Bones, hired many members of Skull & Bones to work with him in the war department and ended up assigning the deployment of the atomic bomb to these members of Skull & Bones…


Really the classic cases of how power works in America as exemplified by Skull & Bones are the Bushes. You have George Bush and George W. Bush who both turned to Skull & Bones at various points throughout their lives, even though George W. Bush says very strongly that he doesn’t rely on his northeast connections. There have been 9 Bushes in Skull & Bones, and at the end of 2003, there will probably be 10 Bushes in Skull & Bones with George W. Bush’s daughter, Barbara.

[oasis]

21. I'll keep this thread kicked to save you the trouble of making another.

[jpgray]

27. Again, this does not refute my above points

You look at the power structure in this country, some leaders will come from Ivy League schools. There are many secret societies, there are many exclusive schools (Harvard, Yale, etc.), there are many places that Hitler supporters, SCOTUS members, CIA guys, and Presidents come from. I point out all these inconsistencies above. I have pointed them out many times--please, get new and more *captivating* sources, or stop rehasing the same three links every single time.

This woman says these things:

-There is scary stuff in the Bones' Tomb. Come on, are we junior high schoolers here? There are plenty of frats that frown on drinking, and plenty that focus on power and connections. S&B is not alone.

-Alumni in power. Again, like Harvard, there are plenty of private schools that whip out prominent men in banking and government. How? Some of it, through connections. Where are these connections made? In fraternities like this one. To say that S&B jsutifies a conspiracy whereas other Ivy League institutions do not is specious reasoning.

-Bad alumni. There have been bad folks from every single fraternity! God help us! There have been bad folks who ascended to high posts in banking and government from nearly EVERY fraternity! We are surrouded!

[seventhson]

41. Kerry's Current membership with BOTH Bushes is the issue

Of that does not bother you then FINE!

It bothers me and I think is a fair subject for discussion.

Membership in a secret order which requires loyalty and secrecy oaths under the current world circumstances - shared with the Bushes - is disturbing to ME.

It needed to be said IMHO.

[JaySherman]

50. "You won’t see a kegger in the Tomb. "

Then what was Goerge W. doing there? Looks like Barbara's gonna be in for a big shocker, too. :eyes:

Seriously though. While Skull & Bones is definitely symptomatic of a larger problem of elitism and cronyism, to identify it as a root cause is nonsense. Secret societies are the refuge of the elite. The scoundrels don't just sprout forth from secret societies.

[Bolo Boffin]

63. Bored out of his frigging Skull...

...is what W was doing there. His secret code name in the group was Temporary. He was called this until he thought up a different name for himself, and he never did.

[Bolo Boffin]

64. Moby Dick has a very strong death motif...

...and I have it on good authority that many powerful men have read it.

Melville must be banned.

[Tim_in_HK]

9. What about the Masons??

I mean, the Masons need to be in there somewhere as well, don't they??

-on edit- Mostly seems like S&B is an Ivy League Kiwanis Club.

[Freddie Stubbs]

28. Don't forget the Stonecutters

[AntiCoup2K4]

47. Damn them Stonecutters anyway

Who controls the British crown?
Who keeps the metric system down?
We do! We do!
Who keeps Atlantis off the maps?
Who keeps the Martians under wraps?
We do! We do!
Who holds back the electric car?
Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star?
We do! We do!
Who robs the cave fish of their site?
Who rigs every Oscar night?
We do! We do!

«

[Fenris]

10. Well, the Illuminati and I were backing Kucinich

But I hear the Knights Templar, the Vatican, and ODESSA were backing Gephardt.

[in_cog_ni_to]

11. This is so typical. You should be congratulating

not posting this shit! :grr:

[IndianaGreen]

54. There are congratulatory threads at the top of the page

Kerry never answered if he had any relationships with other S&K members, and what sort were they.

[BobbyJay]

14. And so it begins.......

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

15. Give it a rest.

Honestly. Try and at least maintain some sort of civility, you know this thread is going to get out of hand. Why bother?

[seventhson]

16. This is MY opinion.

You all are welcome to yours.

I just wish people would READ the article and keep an open mind about this.

The evidence of the crimes of Skull members is well documented from the supervision of the Bay of Pigs invasion to the personnel director of the CIA to several of its members financing Hitler.

I ask folks to become educated about it.

If you think it is harmless I just think you are less informed than me. The evidence is out there.

[in_cog_ni_to]

26. This is a hateful, nasty thing to post. This should be LOCKED!

But I can't say I'm surprised!

[IndianaGreen]

51. Skull & Bones is not a benign secret society

and it is no accident that a Nazi like Prescott Bush was a member.

The Skull and Bones - Yale University
The occult Bush family 'dossier'

http://www.bilderberg.org/skulbone.htm

[John_H]

18. Don't forget both Chimp and Kerry rode the Black Helicopter Clark

piloted from the grassy knoll to the trilateral comission meeting at which the Roswell aliens plotted the 20 point loss of Dr. Dean 40 years in advance.

[seventhson]

20. That's silly

the Trilateral Commission was not founded until 1964.

If the establishment wants to stop Dean - one of their plans is to have one or two of their own go up against him - with more money than anyone can even hardly fathom.

[blondeatlast]

70. Can you give us a link or citation for that?

If the establishment wants to stop Dean - one of their plans is to have one or two of their own go up against him - with more money than anyone can even hardly fathom.

That would be GWB, right? He's the only one with more money than Dean.

I'd leave this thread but it's just too funny--and too easy to dissect your arguments.

[blondeatlast]

69. Sneaky little bastards, aren't they? Damn, they must be stopped!

/sarcasm off//

[Bread and Circus]

19. I am sick of these pathetic smears. They are so pointless

:eyes:

[seventhson]

22. You can call it a smear but it happens to be TRUE

A current member of the secret Order of Skull and Bones won the Iowa primary.

How is it a smear to even acknowledge that?

[CabalBuster]

29. Agree, there is nothing to congratulate tonight

Secret Societies are the hand behind world events, this is a historic fact. Just look at the $1 bill and you'll find the minuscule owl, the eye of Horus, the piramid, all secret society symbols.

[IndianaGreen]

56. Kerry is a member of Skull & Bones. How could that be a smear?

His membership in this dark and secret society is a legitimate issue to raise about a Presidential candidate.

John Kerry admits to Skull and Bones Membership on 'Meet The Press'

In this video you will hear Senator John Kerry admit, on American National television show Meet The Press, that he is a member of The Secret Society named 'Skull & Bones'.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/010104kerryadmits.html

[blondeatlast]

71. OH. MY. GOD.

What hath Yale wrought?

Sheesh.

The panic in your post is amusing, to say the least.

[JI7]

23. so why wont other candidates go after him on this ?

i would like to see any or all of the other candidates go after kerry on this.

[seventhson]

30. For the same reason the candidates will not touch Li/Mihop and 9-11

Or the Hitler-Bush history

To the vast majority of uninformed and politically ignorant citizens is SOUNDS loopy the first time you hear it.

When you are (as I am) a political activist, historical researcher who has done exhibits on genocide, the Holocaust and the underground for Holocaust Museums in Washington and Jerusalem as well as having helped produce a history channel piece (History Undercover) with a BA in political science and investigative journalism and who has spoken at the UN on these subjects, I think people are simply malinformed.

Politicians likewise know little about this and are notoriously quiet on issues which sound too whacky. They are AFRAID to address it because too many people are seriously ignorant of history.

I, on the other hand, happen to KNOW these people. I KNOW intelligence operatives and people who were in Skull. I have been to their homes and eaten and drunk with them.

I became aware of these issues while researching those who backed Hitler. The money trail leads back to the heads of the CIA and to Yale in particular and Skull specifically.

It is my cross(bones) to bear I guess.

You can ignore me or ridicule me. But you cannot say that members of Skull have not been very dangerous and harmed America seriously.

I honestly hope Kerry is NOT such a Skull member.

I pray (if he wins)that he is a man of conscience and that his oath of loyalty to the "Order" does not take precedent over his oath of office.

I am not optimistic though.

[blondeatlast]

73. They will, after they deal with the economy, Iraq, poverty, health care,

corporate corruption and then, only then, after they stop having cramps from laughing so hard.

I'm not a Kerry supporter, but this kind of thing amuses me no end.

Sheesh.

[leftist_rebel1569]

24. oh, SHUT UP!

Holy christ, someone's got sour grapes...

[foo_bar]

31. candidate LaRouche shares your optimism

Today, visiting Yale, one sees male students walking hand in hand, lovers, blatantly, on the streets. One does not permit one's boy children to visit certain of the residences on or around that campus. There have been too many incidents to be overlooked. One is reminded of the naked wrestling in the mud which initiates to the Yale Skull and Bones society practice. One thinks of 'Skull and Boneser' William F. Buckley's advocacy of the dangerous, mind-wrecking substance, marijuana, and of Buckley's recent, publicly expressed sympathies for sodomy between male public school teachers and students.

http://www.econcrisis.homestead.com/SFAN_SB_LaRoucheOnSB.html

[seventhson]

37. LaRouche is a neocon blackops disinformationist

his attack on gays and pot is a red herring for the real crimes of the Bonesmen

An interesting link for those who think Skull is a nothing:

http://www.ctrl.org/boodleboys/

[foo_bar]

39. that is an interesting link

According to some researchers, Clinton was recruited as a CIA operative while a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford. Could this be the "old Hegallian historical dialectic process"?

William of Ockham isn't spinning in his grave, the rest of the universe is spinning counterclockwise around him.

[sleipnir]

32. Kerry feels he's entitled to the nod, that's why I'll never vote for him

He's finished, I can only hope that he will drop out after several embarassing losses in many more states.

He's a elitist and doesn't represent me or the Democratic party.

He'll just authorize more illegal wars and say, "Well, shucks, I thought the evil man was telling me the truth"

[jpgray]

33. How do you know what Kerry feels? (nt)

[bhunt70]

36. way to go with the issues.

[cindyw]

34. Snore

:boring:

[oasis]

38. How can you sleep knowing that the bogeyman's in the closet?

:dunce:

[cindyw]

45. I just shut the door. It works for my kids.

:silly:

[mike1963]

35. S&B is really not much more than a high-power Frat. I have 2 friends who

were members back in the 60s. Both of them have told me it was just a bunch of rich kids with big secrets. They now think it's mostly silly shit and don't mind 'exposing' them, having outgrown the clubhouse mentality. (One of these guys is a fairly high profile lawyer in Seattle, the other is a hotshot in the State Department, a career guy not a political apointee)

Maybe they're just BSing me, but I really don't think so...
:eyes:

[salin]

40. While I rarely use this phrase...

"Whatever."

There have been, what, a gazillion threads started by a few about this topic. Seems that while many have read and been "educated", that many also do not see the same dread a few seem to see from this affiliation.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

42. "that dreaded moment..." so is this Clive Barker or Stephen King?

I suppose old John is climbing back into his coffin again tonight- I wonder if there's room in there for Tersa too?

[blondeatlast]

74. Definitely Barker; Stephen K. is not privy to such "knowledge."

This thread is just too funny!

[ShaneGR]

46. THE PEOPLE OF IOWA HAVE SPOKEN!

Deal with it. I'm not even a Kerry guy, but i admire his tenacity. He worked hard and the voters REWARDED him for it. Skull and Bones didn't force those people to vote.

[IndianaGreen]

52. Iowans did not know the full record

they voted for Kerry's public image, an image that is as carefully cultivated as George W. Bush's, and just as false.

[ShaneGR]

57. So says you, I disagree

And I'm not even a Kerry supporter.

[Lexingtonian]

67. Which is different from Dean's how?

They probably mostly didn't know of Dean's years spent as a ski bum and hanging out in the Hamptons, either. Or how he got into med school. Or whether he was much good as a physician. Or about what is in the files Dean refuses to open.

How about this idea: they probably admit they don't know any candidate completely enough but the game of electing a leader is all based on gambling, on putting a man unproven at the job into it to deal with a reality full of uncertainties anyway. But they do the best they can based on their observations of and intuitions about all the folks running, and their sense of what they and the country need. Sometimes that will be a crook and liar on the surface, sometimes a saint, and sometimes a fraud. It doesn't matter who they are on their resumes and in biographies truthful or untruthful, it matters how they serve America's people and the demands made by history.

Whether Kerry's public image is false, and how, is a good subject for ruminations. But not necessarily of the importance you attach to it to anyone else.

[blondeatlast]

75. "Skull and Bones didn't force those people to vote."

Of course they did, silly. A bitter cold night, they came out in the highest numbers in some time to spend hours of their time practicing, dare I say the word?,

DEMOCRACY.

There can be no other explanation.

[Octafish]

48. So what? John Kerry is a good man.

Bush is a crook. Meaning is that not all bonesman are the same.

It's sort of like Franklin Delano Roosevelt. The rich thought he was a traitor to his class. Well, all he did was beat the Depression AND the Fascists. What thanks did he get? Some of the rich tried to overthrow him.

Seems it may take a similar statesman to beat the main challenge to freedom and peace facing us today, the BFEE. And THAT's why, bones or no bones, I'm for John Kerry.

[IndianaGreen]

59. Good men don't endorse an unprovoked attack on another country!

A good man would have called for Bush impeachment right after Bush forced the UN inspectors out of Iraq in order to invade that country.

A good man does not vote for the PATRIOT Act, giving Bush and Ashcroft powers worthy of a Joe Stalin.

[goodhue]

53. but in fact

Bush's Grandmother was a bridesmaid at Dean's Grandmother's wedding.

[eileen_d]

55. God I love this forum.

Kerry's the poo tonight. Take a big whiff.

</bringiton>

[IndianaGreen]

60. Bush and Kerry are Bonesmen, here is Skull & Bones initiation rites

Bush and Kerry are Bonesmen. Here is an article about the initiation rite.

*** WARNING - Graphic description of rites ***

At Skull and Bones, Bush's Secret Club Initiates Ream Gore
by Ron Rosenbaum

It’s the primal scene of American power, of Bush family values. For two centuries, the initiation rite of Skull and Bones has shaped the character of the men who have shaped the American character, including two Presidents named Bush.

And last Saturday, April 14–for the first time ever–that long-secret rite was witnessed by a team of outsiders, including this writer.

Using high-tech night-vision video equipment able to peer through the gloom into the inner courtyard of the Skull and Bones "Tomb" in New Haven, The Observer team witnessed:

• The George W. effect: intoxicated by renewed proximity to Presidential power, a robed Bonesman posing as George W. harangued initiates in an eerily accurate Texas drawl: "I’m gonna ream you like I reamed Al Gore" and "I’m gonna kill you like I killed Al Gore."

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/initiates_ream_gore

[blondeatlast]

76. The dreaded "Death Mantra"-exposed.

(snip)
Yes, the death mantra–here it is, the three-line Skull and Bones initiation-ritual theme that has bound three Presidents (including the present one) to their secret society:

‘THE HANGMAN EQUALS DEATH!
THE DEVIL EQUALS DEATH!
DEATH EQUALS DEATH!’
:wtf:
(unsnip)

:eyes:

This crap FRIGHTENS you? Apparently you are completely ignorant of 99% of American fraternities.

Edit: added the wtf smiley

[oasis]

61. "Bring it on" kick.

[Indiana Democrat]

62. There's ALWAYS a conspiracy, isn't there??

WHA!

[oasis]

65. I still await an explanation of the Bonesfolk's master plan.

:tinfoilhat:

[Lexingtonian]

66. Ah yes, the innuendo that will never die.

Exactly what distinguishes S&B from any other fraternity, investigated in this way, eludes me. Kappa Kappa Kappa at Dartmouth would be much more yielding of material for the paranoid, really. Alex Robbins just refuses to accept that if there is an Establishment club/fraternity at an Establishment college, these kind of Establishment careers are the expected outcome for students from Establishment families during times in which admissions very much favors Establishment applicants. (Which has, having taken some Harvard undergrad classes, to my knowledge not changed in 200 years.)

Personally, I think we're not catching on that the Great S&B Conspiracy is unbeknownst to them just a part of the Grand Deke Conspiracy. I mean, W was President of the Yale Dekes...and a member of S&B...all the beer kegs always got delivered to the Deke House, however.... As we all know, The Sinister Reason Is The True Reason.

It's all innuendo, emotionally based in anti-snob class hatred, this S&B snipe hunt.

[Killarney]

77. I have never laughed at a post so hard.

Thanks. That was a good one. :toast:

In all seriousness, John Kerry is a great man. His intentions for this country are pure and good. Look at his record.

[Slippery_Hammer]

78. Don't blame me

I voted for Dean. No Bonesmen thank you.

[Name removed]

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