Alabama rep meets w/ Bush 5X to ban gay books, Clarke couldn't get in once

[212demop]

http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/news/1101896768316400.xml

Another case of Bush priorities. How realistic is it that libraries will actually toss out or tone down Shakespeare, Dorian Grey, Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, etc...?

Is Bush merely humoring Gerald Allen?

[MrBenchley]

1. Where did it say this goober EVER met with pResident Shrimp...

Yeah, he's a shithead, but....your linkdoesn't support your headline....

[212demop]

3. Air America Radio this morning- I'll find a link but it was audio on

Unfiltered

[rodeodance]

20. It was a news item yesterday also but ? which network

[212demop]

21. on TV?

[212demop]

4. sorry- here's a link

http://www.unfilteredradio.com/

It's discussed on this page- the five meetings are mentioned

[MrBenchley]

12. Thanks...

A true meeting of the minds (snicker)...

[davidinalameda]

2. tell me how this isn't establishment of religion

you're pushing a religious view onto everyone

this is chilling--it goes beyond "well, that's Alabama for you"

it's pushing gays and lesbians down to second class citizens

[212demop]

5. Actually Rachel on Unfiltered chided Alabama progressives

She said they couldn't get comfortable in their little progressive niches with shit like this going on. She was not pleased with them at all today. Especially since the ten commandment story started out of Alabama as well and now is on the Bush agenda. She told them to move their asses on this BS.

[AirAmFan]

16. And don't forget the referendum vote to keep SEGREGATION

in the Alabama constitution. The campaign for reaffirmation of legacies of slavery through this referendum was led by the judge who was ousted for emblazoning "Christian" artifacts prominently in his courthouse, and by the state's "Christian" Coalition. This says a lot about what being a "Christian" really means in Alabama, and not just in Alabama.

[quaoar]

18. She obviously doesn't know shit about living in Alabama

[212demop]

19. Tell. What do we need to know?

[quaoar]

25. Comfortable little niches???

What the fuck does that mean? I'd like to know where they are. I manage a non-profit in the most Republican county in the state.

And who the hell cares if she is displeased with us down here in Alabama? If she wants to drag her unhappy ass down here and show us how it's done, we'll be happy to listen.

[LizW]

24. That was Liz wasn't it?

I thought Rachel sort of stood up for us.

Whichever, I thought that was sort of ironic, a New Yorker chiding Alabama progressives (who live in hell every day) to get out of their "little comfortable, progressive niches" and telling us we need to do more. :eyes:

[DBoon]

6. "Entartete Kunst" burns again

before it was "degenerate Jewish art"

now it is "degenerate Homo art"

[DistressedAmerican]

7. Being an Athiest...

I never cease to see how well integrated Christian ideology is with our legal system. It is so pervasive that most forget all about it. Not me.

In practice, Separation of Church and State just means you can't quote the bible directly in the legislation or say out loud it is sanctioned by God. Write all the Christian morality into the laws you want. Hell, tell me why I can't buy beer while other people are church on Sunday. No practical separation has ever existed. Need we discuss "In God We Trust?"

That being said, this clearly is a disturbing increase of that type of legislation.

Heard a great interview on NPR the other day discussing Hindu on Muslim violence in India. He made the point that we call India a Hindu Nationalist country. By the same standard we should be called a Christian Nationalist country.

[212demop]

8. And it's goes under the radar- of course it's the msm

Yesterday Mark (is it Mark? or John?) Pappantonio did a report on some publicly funded bible schools in Texas- where troubled kids are boarded and indoctrinated, and there is no oversight of what happens in those schools, how the kids are treated or what they are taught. This is part of Bush's faith based bullshit and no one is even aware it is happening. Papp said until something horrific happens- like a crime where the police have to be called in- the schools will just keep on keeping on as they have been. And we tax payers are supporting them!

And alum said she came out of one such school totally uneducated and unprepared for further education. She had to teach herself everything she missed while she was in there being "corrected"

[DistressedAmerican]

9. The very term "Faith Based" scares me!

It sounds to me like the opposite of "Fact Based". Isn't that what official government policy should be based on? Oh yeah, some folks wrote a book more than 2,000 years ago that contains all the answers. Of course this is the guy that says "we must balance Science and Ethics" as if they are two opposite ends of a scale.

No wonder Bush never questions ANYTHING. He is so used to sucking up faith based explanation to the world. He if you believe it, It must be true. Right?

I wish he'd go back to drinking and stop cramming his new opiate down my throat!

[212demop]

10. Well, there are pictures going around with him sipping cocktails-

so I think he's got faith he can be a drunk and still have God speak through him. Now we have a born again lush zealot- best of both worlds.

Careful what you wish for.

:)

[DistressedAmerican]

15. Yeah, I guess it could be worse!

As hard to conceive as I find that thought.

Although don't be fooled by photos. There may not be alcohol in those drinks. Shirley Temple Drinking Pussy-Boy!

Hell he may mot have even been holding a glass. Call me a sketpic but, I do tons of photoshop work. It is quite do-able with the right base image.

[Supersedeas]

11. same here....scarry approach to pedagogy

[neoteric lefty]

13. SNIP

Allen said that if his bill passes, novels with gay protagonists and college textbooks that suggest homosexuality is natural would have to be removed from library shelves and destroyed.

"I guess we dig a big hole and dump them in and bury them," he said.

A spokesman for the Montgomery-based Southern Poverty Law Center called the bill censorship.

"It sounds like Nazi book burning to me," said SPLC spokesman Mark Potok.

/SNIP

For all you trolls and lurkers out there... here is the face of the true Republican party; anti-gay, anti-science, anti-education. Scary, huh?

[gottaB]

14. And he couldn't be bothered to merely humor Richard Clarke?

No, nothing merely about it. Stirring up hatred against gays is a Bush priority. Banning books is part of the Republican agenda.

[212demop]

17. Right. That's why I brought up Clarke. It's disgusting.

Someone in the bible must have had his hair on fire? No. Too bad. Maybe then Bush would've listened up when he had a chance.

[rodeodance]

22. Lynne Cheney’s lesbian novel, “Sisters”? --ban this novel??

awe gee--does he want to hurn her feelings?


http://www.unfilteredradio.com/


......In addition, another Alabama native is cozing up in the White House. Gerald Allen, a republican representative in the Alabama State Legislature, proposed a bill to ban novels with gay characters in all libraries, including university libraries. What does Allen want to do with such classics as “Cat on a Hot Tin Roof” and Lynne Cheney’s lesbian novel, “Sisters”? He said he wants to “dig a big hole and dump them in and bury them.”......

[212demop]

23. Yup! Welcome to 1984.