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lizzieforkerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:12 PM
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Al Franken is on Scarborough Country fighting with Buchanan
He just said the Right is demeaning our soldiers.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:14 PM
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1. Give that Nazi hell Al!
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CaOs Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:14 PM
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2. He just kicked coulters man-ass
that was great
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:15 PM
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3. What did he do?
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delhurgo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:16 PM
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4. Franken is making an ass of himself; he sounds like a raving maniac.
He's even making Ann Coulter seem reasonable, which I thought was impossible to do. Settle down Al. Geez.
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Liberal Chad from WI Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:18 PM
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5. UR RIGHT
that is really sad when some can make coulter seem reasonable b/c i can NOT stand that woman.
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trayfoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:28 PM
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7. Al did fine, but am tired of hearing the lie
that somehow the country JUST found out that the soldiers have NOT had the proper equipment! Pat and Franks are leading people to believe that the soldier's question is the first we've heard that the troops did not have the armor or weapons that they need. This is NOT new, by any stretch of the imagination! Kerry said this repeatedly on the campaign trail - and he was accused of being unpatriotic for saying it. Not to mention, the neocons blamed Kerry for the lack of equipment because he "voted against the $87 Bil. Funny thing about that - the bill passed and the troops STILL don't have the equipment they need. I hope the bush cartel rots in hell for their murders.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:37 PM
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16. Ain't that the truth
I'm waiting for that to come out again. The troops are underequipped because of Kerry. Uh huh. So where is the money going that should be going to the troops? Haliburten? Perhaps that's why Kerry didn't want to vote for that blank check of a bill that used the Republican charge card to pay for the war. Where IS the money going as we try to conduct war on the cheap?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:33 PM
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12. You know what I hate?
Even when there is absolutely no doubt that Al is correct on an individual point, people like Coulter aren't honest and sincere enough to say, "Yeah, you got me on that one, Al. Rumsfeld could have handled that better. But on the rest of the things you said..."

No.

Damn, I hate her.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:09 PM
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27. they cannot admit they were wrong -- ever!!
The supporters of the administration are the same as the criminals running the administration. They will never admit when they are wrong about anything.

A bunch of idiots supporting a bigger bunch of idiots...all of them liars!

I cannot stand to even look at Man Coulter.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:37 PM
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31. Liberal Chad! You're quite clever!
You must have chuckled for a long time over that one! LOL. Good one. Haha ha.
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Liberal Chad from WI Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 04:12 PM
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42. thank ya
thank you stephanie....i cant wait to read dipshit anns book how to speak to a liberal if u must.....MAKE ME PUKE......whats ur thoughts on the draft?......im thinkin bout settin up a protest in appleton, wi
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 03:09 PM
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41. I thought he was being weird
he seemed like some "Wild Eyed Democrat"
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:29 PM
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8. Al is doing just fine
I'm so tired of everyone needing to be nice and polite and calm. Good grief! Should we all be like Lieberman, when the bullys take our ball away we tell them to have fun with it.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:39 PM
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18. Much like Kerry was the reasonble front to the VVAW
Yes, we need to make our point passionately but coherently. Otherwise we're just dismissed as a bunch of nutjobs. It does nothing for the cause to froth at the mouth, much as we might want to.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:35 PM
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15. Rave On Al ! I'm tired of the gutless wonder moderates and their
waltz with corporations and power ... screwing the people via Republican - lite mindset. I'd rather go down fighting than on my knees kissing RW butt. Ewe! That a horrific visual. :P
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:42 PM
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21. Why go DOWN fighting
It may feel good, but it doesn't get the job done.

We don't need to be Repub-lite, but neither do we need to go down in a ball of passionate flames never to be seen again.

We need to win this damn it. And that means discipline. And discipline means wipe the froth from around your mouth before they shoot you as mad.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:13 PM
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28. And yet
For years we've watched liberal progressives trying to calmly lay out their arguments reasonably, and they come off as wimps. There must be something between reasonable (i.e. dull) and "frothing at the mouth." By the way, I think reasonable and calm -should- work, but demonstrably it doesn't.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:17 PM
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Yes, middle ground
That's why I say passionate and yet reasonable.

Bless his heart, and though I wouldn't have done much better, Lawrence ODonnell is a prime example. When faced with O'Neill on Buchanan's show, he coudn't stop shouting "Liar! Liar! Lying liar!"

And we haven't seen him since. As understandable as it was, did it help?
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 04:01 AM
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38. Uh, that's not logical. Since 'Rush,' O'Reilly, Hannity, Scarborough...
and all the other Right-Wing talkies rant and rave all the time, and people love it! No one fires them for their frothing at the mouth. In fact, no one even seems to mind that their statements have NO basis in reality (i.e. Ann Coulter). A condition they'd NEVER tolerate from a Liberal. I personally felt O'Donnell's "opinionated display" against The Swiftboat Veterans for Lies was well over-due, and entirely cathartic for both O'Donnell, as well as those of us who'd had enough of the MSM lies surrounding the story repeated again and again. We haven't seen O'Donnell since because the Right owns MSM, and O'Donnell wasn't talking the Party 'line.' So they silenced him. So much for Freedom of Speech.

Also, the part of Al Franken's debate which Ann Coulter which I saw was NOT anywhere near as obnoxious as the daily-approved antics of Rush or O'Reilly or Hannity.

Come on, let's be fair and balanced with the Liberals too.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 04:03 AM
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39. Actually, I have learned to flame with Refundicans. It is all they
understand.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 03:55 AM
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36. That's odd...I saw that entirely different.
She was spouting the mantra (19 lies in Michael Moore's F-9/11) and he called her on it..wanted her to name one lie. She hadn't seen the show but was repeating someone else..she couldn't name one. She tried, named where Moore had asked the congressman if he had any children in Iraq.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 03:57 AM
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37. Whoops..dupe
Edited on Fri Dec-10-04 03:58 AM by shraby
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:25 PM
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6. wasn't someone else (other than Franken) supposed to be on tonite???
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CaOs Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:29 PM
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9. I think he made her look like an ass
It was great "Come on ann lets go looting"
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trayfoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:30 PM
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10. Yes
CLG Founder and Chair, Michael Rectenwald, Ph.D.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:34 PM
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13. Michael Rechtenwald was supposed to be on tonight...
stayed tuned, I don't have a TV and want to know what is happening.

:bounce:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:38 PM
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17. Yes. I saw an ad that said someone else that I was not so interested
in seeing. If it had been AL Franken, I would have wanted to watch.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:31 PM
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11. I loved Al's invitation to Coulter about looting Madison Avenue
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 10:32 PM by eleny
After talking about Rumsfeld's statements on the Iraqi looting - how a free people are allowed to loot - Al invited Coulter to go with him and do some looting for jewelry for her. Her face was frozen in mild confusion. I guess she'll regroup since they went to a break. But the moment is lost to her.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:34 PM
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14. She should loot her plastic surgeon's office
Someone owes her bigtime payback for that nose job.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:39 PM
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19. How can these bastards say THEY are being persecuted???
It's Hitler's BIG LIE strategy.

Tell a lie big enough, long enough, and people will believe it.

And ALWAYS find a way to claim you are a victim.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:41 PM
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20. Coulter is an idiot
"Ann, tell me one." :P

Meanwhile, Al was HONEST enough to say which things about Farenheit 9-11 he disliked.

Coulter and her Talibornagain friends will never concede even a SINGLE point, no matter how wrong they are.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:06 PM
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26. an idiot who is laughing all the way to the bank
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:43 PM
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23. I was raised Catholic
One thing that made me cringe was how some xtians have to hang themselves on a cross positioning themselves as victim. They look awfully silly trying to hammer in that last nail.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 02:04 AM
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35. its up is down .. clear skies, health forests.. on an on
accuse the enemyof what you are guilty off. Its central to how they deal with issues.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:43 PM
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22. I would like to see Coulter and all her minions have to go thru
what the Nazi's had happen to them in the Indiana Jones movie when they opened the Lost Ark, and the spirits came out and melted them all..............
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:53 PM
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24. She still can't refute a single fact from Farenheit 9-11
And this is AFTER she had a commercial break to collect herself and concentrate, and maybe even review notes.

If Al is smart (and I know he is) he's probably peppering her with questions and keeping her off-ballance during the breakes.

She is *so* out of her league with Al Franken, when Bill O'Reilly isn't controling the mic.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:57 PM
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25. Bewarre The Coultergeist
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Patriot Acts Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:17 PM
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29. Sounds like I need to go catch the re-run.....
...I'm outie!
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delhurgo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:36 PM
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30. There really isn't a whole lot to see.
I think Franken did embarrass himself though. It wasn't that he was way out of control, even though he did seem to be nervous and on edge, its that from the beginning he just started attacking Coulter -seemingly for little reason and wouldn't stop. And he kept butting in when others were trying to speak. When it was his turn he just meandered and seemed incoherent saying stuff that didn't seem to have anything to do with the question. His speech was slurred too; at one point he couldn't even pronounce movie - he said "mover", twice - lol. If you told me he was on something I'd believe you. And he didn't seem to be able to control his temper; I've seen that from him before though: his eye twitches, he gets an angry look, and he raises his voice. By the end of the show his the upper right side of his lip was quivering. That was one of the most embarrassing performances I've ever seen on one of those shows; he made a fool of himself.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:09 AM
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32. Republicans make fools of themselves all the time

The Chimp was meeting the troops the other day in a Halloween Costume.

As far as I know not one Freeper made fun of his silly suit.

I don't think we need to say sorry for Al tonight.

Let him rage if he wants to, the Freepers will degrade him if he sat quietly in his chair or acted out!

So Act Out Al!

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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:20 AM
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33. i'd do that too if i had to 'debate' ann coulter
MSRNC is a joke.
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Patriot Acts Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 01:04 AM
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34. Sounds like he was playing the Republitards game rather well...
...how could you blame anyone for attacking Annie(got her gun), that evil bitch is an assbag. What do you think the kids would be like if she were to mate with Rush?? OMG, Damien... hell's offspring! Maybe they would have 3-6 heads, cuz you know it would be smarter than everyone else.

Have you ever heard the saying that goes something like.... when in Rome, do as the Romans? If he acted like Kerry or something, well, we all know the end of that story. If good Democrats get back to their roots (and stop trying to please "the middle") we will be just fine when it's all said and done.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:19 AM
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40. It's called "giving the assholes a taste of their own medicine."
Simple concept, rarely executed by our side. Go, Al, go!

These bastards have had their way for too long, steamrolling our guys because our guys are too polite to deal with their aggresive hubris. Good for Al.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 04:15 PM
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43. Buchanan is against the invasion of Iraq, is he not?
I've heard him say it, time and time again.

I don't agree with half of what Buchanan says, but, as Right-wingers go, he pretty anti-bushco.

:shrug:
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