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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 08:18 PM
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Poll question: Why no massive demonstrations(like Vietnam) in USA against Iraq War?
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 08:22 PM
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1. There have been major demonstrations
500,000 were in DC before the war started. We don't see the large protests now because the energy of the anti-war movement was taken up in the Presidential election.

I think we're doing better than we did in Vietnam because we started protesting before the war began. It took years of violence in Vietnam before there were any major protests. Take that hippies! ;)

Maybe now that the election is over people will start protesting again.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 08:23 PM
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2. Remember that it took
years for the demonstrations to start and build. And there were massive demonstrations before the war started. Remember, Bush called them focus groups?

In many parts of the country demonstrations have continued on a weekly or monthly basis, but they've been ignored.

It will happen again. Just give it time.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 08:32 PM
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3. Keep waiting so I can join in --
You know there is not only the war to protest, but the rape of the environment, the theft by the Bushies etc, etc. I am amazed people aren't running around in a tizzy protesting. The only thing I can put my finger on is that most people don't know/care because they get their news from the usual suspects.
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 08:35 PM
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6. those that don't
get their info from normal sources don't always know if or where a protest is going to happen in their area until after it happens.
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cavanaghjam Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 08:32 PM
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4. No draft,
television (that proletariat opium), sixy hour work weeks, and a stench of self-absorption so prevalent that future historians will call this the Sponge Age.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 08:35 PM
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5. Yep, NO DRAFT is the reason and
since all the people dying are volunteers on the american side and most people in this country do not give a damn about the dead iraqis.

Msongs
riverside ca

www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 09:32 PM
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7. Not enough college kids give a shit.
I remember that most of the anti-Vietnam war protests started on college campuses.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 09:52 PM
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8. no draft
i'm 26 years old and know people who are around my age and younger where they would be most likely to be drafted if it started up again.

but most don't care about what is going on. the concern is on things like the latest movie out, some tv shows, music etc. war to them is not really a concern. they aren't war mongers eithers. it's more like they just don't care or have no opinion on it as it has nothing to do with their lives.
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Aunt Anti-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 11:14 PM
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9. All of the above and also:
Many who would LOVE to take to the streets with pitchforks and torches are living paycheck to paycheck and cannot afford to miss one day of work. There aren't any organized protests anywhere near me, either. We need to have protests 24-7!!!! If, for instance there was a 24-7 protest at our county courthouse (local for me) I'd be there staffing signs in the middle of the night or after work or something but for now there's nothing near enough and I can't miss work.

That's my predicament.
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 11:29 PM
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10. Where have you been?
There were huge demonstrations before the war started, plus a huge one at the RNC. The movement suffered a temporary setback because everyone decided to waste time and energy on John @#$%ing Kerry.
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:13 AM
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11. The Viet Nam war demonstrations were covered by the media
This war has many huge demonstrations,the media shows up and rolls tape but the owners say go with something else.
That is the difference now ,the media is now owned by war mongers,when they started this crap mantra about about the " Liberal Media " in the 60s they knew what it would do.
Neo fucking cons make some good long range secret plans,it's thier real basic plan that has no future.They are great at turning people against each other like all narrow visioned fascists.We have a plan for the world to have a future.Our plan is not carried out well enough yet because we don't get paid to march or have what they call think tanks and untaxed churchs doing the work.
The saddest part of this whole mess is that our tax dollars paid for thier little spy games and brain washing of the over entertained masses.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:15 AM
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13. Nice jdots
You summed it up well I think.

I think if there was a draft then the game they play would be tougher to pull off.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:18 AM
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12. Wait! We're protesting on the Net now!
Yeah...see how much media coverage we're getting.

Frankly, I think people are too scared or lazy to do anything about it. The ones that want to protest are usually "professional protestors" that think others aren't as "pure" as they are.

It doesn't matter, really. Yet. Wait until the draft and more soldiers dying. Even then, the media will paint those that dissent as nutjobs and rapscallions.

It should be interesting to see what happens on January 20th, 2005 though.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:26 AM
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14. Because I can do it my pajamas
on the Internet.

Seriously, I'd love to go march on the White House but it's the middle of Dec., Christmas is in 2 weeks, I have a business with 25 employees, my kid is in school......




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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:31 AM
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15. A quarter of a million people is not massive? There HAVE been
massive demonstrations, and far larger than the VietNam ones, they have been completely ignored by the corporate media.
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