Lieberman for Homeland Security?

[dazeconf]

A few articles have mentioned that he might be Bush's second choice. I think he's at least a modest improvement over Kerik despite his support for the war and his being the possibly most conservative Democrat. What do you think?

[goclark]

1. I care too much about our Homeland

to have him in charge of anything.

I don't care what anyone says,I will always believe that he was a plant during the Gore campaign.

[St. Jarvitude]

2. Does Connecticut have a Dem governor?

If so, then I'll gladly be at the front of the movement to get LIEberman to give up his Senate seat for a token position in the * cabinet.

[dazeconf]

5. the governor is a Republican, but

I suspect that Connecticut repubs might actually be more liberal than lieberman. It's a solidly blue state.

[newyawker99]

26. Hi dazeconf!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Mabeline]

3. Hmmm...

I dunno, I've seen him lean to the right quite a bit. Wonder if he has said anything about this yet.

[Radical Activist]

4. He's already a Republican

why not make it official?

On the other hand it would too easy to make a Democrat the scapegoat if we are attacked again.

[kedrys]

10. I second that!

He should just switch and put us out of his misery.

[hopein08]

14. Here, here!

I had a class called "U.S. Public Policy" last semester during the primaries and the professor was ultra-Democrat. I almost felt bad for the one Chimpy supporter in the class, almost! Anyway, whenever we talked about the primaries he refused to discuss Lieberman having any chance because he was just a "Republican in a Democrat's suit."!

But here's a laugh for you, the one Chimpy supporter argued the environment with me one day by saying that cutting down trees in national parks was okay because instead of getting our oxygen from trees and plants, like I've always been taught, we actually get about 70% of our oxygen from...POND SCUM!

I didn't even know how to respond!

[Radical Activist]

16. Sounds like Bush's forest fire prevention plan

cut down all the forests!

"I own a lumber company?"

[FightinNewDem]

18. Your professor...

...may have an advanced degree, but he is a blithering idiot.

National Journal – Composite Liberal score: Lieberman voted more liberal on economic, defense and foreign policy issues than 78 percent of all Senators; Kerry – 87%; Gephardt – 76%; Kucinich – 85%; Edwards – 63%

NJ/Foreign Policy: Lieberman voted more liberal on foreign policy issues than 55 percent of all Senators; Kerry – 73%; Gephardt – 69%; Kucinich – 90%; Edwards – 62%

NJ/Economics: Lieberman voted more liberal than 87 percent of all Senators; Kerry – 93%; Gephardt – 86%; Kucinich – 95%; Edwards – 66%

NJ/Liberal on Social Policy: Lieberman voted more liberal on social policy issues more than 82 percent of all Senators; Kerry – 81%; Gephardt –72; Kucinich – 65%; Edwards – 56%

American Conservative Union: Lieberman - 20%; Kerry – 20%; Gephardt – 8%; Kucinich – 0%; Edwards – 30%

League of Conservation Voters: Lieberman - 88%; Kerry – 92%; Gephardt – 91%; Kucinich – 95%; Edwards – 68%

Sierra Club: Lieberman - 91%; Kerry – 100%; Gephardt – 100%; Kucinich – 100%; Edwards – 72%

National Education Association: Lieberman - 100%; Kerry – 100%; Gephardt – 100%; Kucinich – 100%; Edwards – 100%

Children's Defense Fund: Lieberman - 91%; Kerry – 91%; Gephardt – 82%; Kucinich – 100%; Edwards – 100%

AFL-CIO: Lieberman - 92%; Kerry – 92%; Gephardt – 100%; Kucinich – 100%; Edwards – 100%

Human Rights Campaign (gay issues): Lieberman - 100%; Kerry – 100%; Gephardt – 100%; Kucinich – 100%; Edwards – 100%

The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence: Lieberman - 90%; Kerry – 100%; Gephardt – 94%; Kucinich – 100%; Edwards – 77%

United Auto Workers: Lieberman - 75%; Kerry – 85%; Gephardt – 100%; Kucinich – 100%; Edwards – 92%

International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers: Lieberman - 73%; Kerry – 75%; Gephardt – 88%; Kucinich – 83%; Edwards – 83%

Vietnam Veterans of America: Lieberman - 92%; Kerry – 92%; Gephardt – 55%; Kucinich – 66%; Edwards – 84%

Americans for the Arts: Lieberman – 100%; Kerry – 100%; Gephardt – 100%; Kucinich – 100%; Edwards – 100%

Service Employees International Union: Lieberman - 75%; Kerry – 89%; Gephardt – 90%; Kucinich – 82%; Edwards – 100%

The Teamsters: Lieberman - 100%; Kerry – 50%; Gephardt – 100%; Kucinich – 100%; Edwards – 93%

International Association of Fire Fighters: Lieberman - 100%; Kerry – 100%; Gephardt – 89%; Kucinich – 100%; Edwards – 100%

National Association for the Advancement of Colored People: Lieberman - 94%; Kerry – 100%; Gephardt – 89%; Kucinich – 89%; Edwards – 94%

National Abortion Reproductive Rights Action League: Lieberman - 100%; Kerry – 100%; Gephardt – 65%; Kucinich – 25%; Edwards – 100%

[IronLionZion]

23. Fucking right!

Lieberman is a good man with a good heart. It's shameful that people in his own party trash him so much just because he is a man of faith and values. NARAL gave him 100% pro-choice.

He marched for civil rights. In my book, that alone compensates for his Iraq vote, which Kerry, Edwards and many other Democrats voted for too.

I disagree with him on Iraq and Israel(obviously) but his work on so many other issues is very progressive. He even supports using the Marshall plan for impoverished muslim nations(a FLAMING liberal idea).

[IndianaGreen]

24. Here is Holy Joe's record that really matters...

Voted for PATRIOT Act and IWR.

Advocates US aggression against Syria and Iran.

Supports censorship of TV, radio, lyrics.

Wants an American version of the KGB to keep track of "suspicious" people, including those that are against the war and Israel's Occupation of Palestine.

[hopein08]

27. That's what I see as most important...

All those statistics provided by the previous poster paint a very compelling picture. But it takes a lot of time and effort to see exactly what those organizations based their rankings on. Thank you to the poster for all of those statistics though! It must have taken a lot of time to find all of that! I hadn't realized what those numbers show.

However, I agree with IndianaGreen more because of the PATRIOT Act, IWR, US aggression policies, censorship, and the who Intelligence Report that he apparently had a lot to do with.

I really don't know what to think about the possibility of him being the Homeland Security Director.

[fujiyama]

29. Don't forget

his inability to issue a clear condemnation of Abu Grhraib and his dismissal of Clarke's allegations ("I see nothing to indicate what Clarke is saying is true...").

Sorry that was it in my book. I will no longer defend him.

[gordianot]

6. That would be a fine job for Joe.

I'm sure it would be his last job as a DINO.

[johncoby2]

7. Then they can blame a democrat when we are attacked. EOM

[napi21]

8. Joe should retire! He's sure not the guy for HS.

Joe is too wussy for that job! If Kerik woldn't have been so crooked, I think he might have made a good one because I think it's a good thing to have street smarts. Joe doesn't have them either!!!

[Crunchy Frog]

9. No, it would just be an opportunity for the Repubs

to grab another senate seat that we cannot afford to lose. As much as I despise Joe, we need him in that seat until or unless we can get a different Democrat elected to it.

[AndyTiedye]

15. Joe Is Useful ONLY If He Helps Dems Filibuster Bush's "Justices"

He is SUPPOSED to be pro-choice. We need him to support the
filibuster when Booosh** sends us a parade of Scalia clones
for the Supreme Court. I fear he won't though. That would
require him to stand up to the Booosh** regime, which he has
so far declined to do. If he has no intention of standing
with us on the Supreme Court, he might accept the token
cabinet position, and avoid the infamy that would follow him
if he cast the deciding vote to break our filibuster and turn
the Court over to the Fundies.

[tanyev]

11. Feel the Joementum! (yawn)

Saying he's an improvement over Kerik is not saying much at all. How many people live in this country? Kerik or Lieberman are the best choices we got?????

[Khephra]

12. Do we REALLY want a Democrat in charge of Homeland Security?

If there's any new attack then guess who will be blamed? The Democrat in charge of HS. And then the party will get smeared for the lapse too. Rove and Co. would just love to have a Democratic scapegoat for the next big HS blow-up.

Nope. It's a Republican administration. There's good people out there even on the Right who can do the job. Get a Republican.

[tanyev]

13. Oh, good point.

It would be pin the tail on the donkey, so to speak.

[mattclearing]

17. He's a DLC'er anyway. Everyone knows they aren't really Democrats, right?

eom

[IndianaGreen]

19. Do we want an agent of Mossad in charge of Homeland Security?

I don't think so!

[IronLionZion]

20. he'll get a conservative Democrat from a state with a Republican Governor

So he'll get replaced by a Republican

He's also thinking about Senator Nelson of Nebraska.

[JohnKleeb]

25. whats gonna be the situation with Nebraska now?

Johanns newly appointed sec of agriculture was governor. Oh and Nelson now that the Zellout is gone is the most conservative dem, you don't hear too much about him here but hes more conservative than Joe is, Nelso voted to confirm Ashcroft, Norton and while Joe, I aint no fan of him but he did voted against those two.

[Stinky The Clown]

21. NO Dem for ANY cabinet position, but ESPECIALLY not HS

No dem should be in his the great Chimpus Khan's cabinet. And ***especially*** not at Fatherland Sekurity. That's the death of the dems when (not if) we get hit again.

[Freddie Stubbs]

28. There has been a Democrat in Bush's cabinet for the last four years

And Clinton had a Republican in his cabinet (Sec. of Defence).

[Blue Shark]

22. Didn't you hear

Leiberman is a Republican Plant

[fujiyama]

30. Once he leaves

he should also switch parties while he's at it.

We don't have many senate seats as it is. We're close to losing filibuster status as it is.