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Tue Dec-14-04 12:24 PM
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Poll question: Best way to win with the DLC and without progressives |
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Tue Dec-14-04 12:26 PM
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Congrats.
(Of course, I know this is probably going to be locked).
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Tue Dec-14-04 12:29 PM
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4. I don't see why? Equal time and all that! |
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Thanks for the compliment.
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Tue Dec-14-04 12:27 PM
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2. OMFG!! WTF If all of us say we hate the DLC will this bullshit end? |
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What do we have to do to end this.
Please tell me so we can stop this madness?
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Tue Dec-14-04 12:28 PM
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3. thanks for kicking the thread |
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Tue Dec-14-04 12:33 PM
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5. You're welcome. It's a public service I do to knock the vote fraud |
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and voter intimidation/suppresion links off the front pages.
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Tue Dec-14-04 12:44 PM
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7. whatever floats your boat |
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Tue Dec-14-04 01:04 PM
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Tue Dec-14-04 01:07 PM
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9. I'd be happy if people just tried to understand the problem |
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Tue Dec-14-04 12:44 PM
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Tue Dec-14-04 01:23 PM
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10. since people are voting |
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Tue Dec-14-04 03:11 PM
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Time to mount our horses and take back our Party! ONWARD!!
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Tue Dec-14-04 04:58 PM
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Tue Dec-14-04 05:08 PM
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13. nominate colin powell |
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don't laugh, it could be done.
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Tue Dec-14-04 05:55 PM
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16. laughter often expresses nervous fear. |
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Tue Dec-14-04 05:12 PM
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14. Infiltration is the way to go. |
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After all, it's what they did to the Dems.
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Fri Dec-17-04 09:18 AM
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Fri Dec-17-04 10:47 AM
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27. You're right. They were Democrats...once upon a time. |
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Tue Dec-14-04 05:32 PM
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15. Nominate Kerry again...It worked this time, right? |
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Heh....I voted for infiltration.
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Tue Dec-14-04 07:28 PM
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Tue Dec-14-04 11:40 PM
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I think infiltration may be the way to go too!
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Tue Dec-14-04 08:34 PM
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I'll run as a Republican. Then, once I'm elected, I'll unmask as a liberal. I'll legalize marijuana, ban guns, end the Iraq War, let gays marry, etc. with my very first executive order.
MWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
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Fri Dec-17-04 09:09 AM
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21. that sounds like a good plan to me |
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Tue Dec-14-04 10:02 PM
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19. Oh, there all so good!!! I am positively giddy!!! I can't decide!!! |
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Fri Dec-17-04 09:15 AM
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22. Even the DLC is not suggesting the party move rightward anymore |
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Get with the times.
In 1992, the DLC suggested we move rightward, we did and we won. But that was yesterday's news. The DLC is not out there supporting SS privatization or outlawing abortion.
Get it right. There are substantial number of voters that agree on policy with DLC thinking and if we aren't competing for those voters, we ain't gonna win, and this game is about winning.
We don't have to pursue DLC types based on ideology, but we can appeal to it based on values and language and much the way Clinton did, appeal to the conservative value, but amplify a liberal governance in the process. Good example is increasing the Earned Income Tax Credit while raising taxes on the rich and "Mend It, Don't End It" on affirmative action.
I know you all hate hearing examples of this strategy working --but it simply does work!
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Fri Dec-17-04 09:35 AM
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24. they certainly are suggesting we move right |
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Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 09:36 AM by Cheswick2.0
they are all about moving right and doing the bidding of big business. Yes there are people who agree with their philosophy, we call them republicans.
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Fri Dec-17-04 09:37 AM
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Wassup? You just keep on posting on your own thread to keep it alive. Keep promoting that we all join the DLC. I guess we'll have to donate money to them then.
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Fri Dec-17-04 11:11 AM
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30. it you like pouring your money down a shit hole |
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Fri Dec-17-04 03:24 PM
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35. Why are you following Cheswick? |
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Fri Dec-17-04 09:41 AM
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26. "You can say it all you want, doesn't make it true" --Al Gore 1992 |
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The DLC are not Republicans, they are not demanding the party move right and they are not advocating the Republican party line. They are more business-friendly than many Democrats, but that doesn't make them Republicans. For years, many liberal Democrats were ardently pro-business because their core voters were blue collar workers.
The DLC is not our problem. I believe even Howard Dean subscribed to their positions throughout most of his term as Vermont governor.
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Fri Dec-17-04 11:09 AM
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Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 11:10 AM by Cheswick2.0
They are republicans and this is not 1992 anymore.
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Fri Dec-17-04 10:50 AM
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28. Voters agree with DLC thinking? Polls indicate something different. |
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Fri Dec-17-04 11:26 AM
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Fri Dec-17-04 02:00 PM
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It seems crazy to me that the DLC continues to ignore the facts. Then when you consider the possibility that losing is really their preference, it all seems to make sense.
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Fri Dec-17-04 12:33 PM
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33. yeah, now all they're doing is purging leftist elements. nt |
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Fri Dec-17-04 11:27 AM
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32. hmm, you pretty much laid it out perfectly. nt |
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Fri Dec-17-04 08:17 PM
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36. If they do this, they can do it without me & my partner, too. |
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Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 08:17 PM by TankLV
I will withold my vote for the first time since 1972.
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