Wrap your heads around Pelosi/Reid endorsement DNC chair.

[madfloridian]

I am gathering the only way the party wants to go is national security. Not that familiar with the CNP, really. We just seem to be a militant country now.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/12/14/dnc.chair/index.html

SNIP.."Reid and Pelosi are backing former Indiana congressman and 9/11 commission member Tim Roemer in the multi-candidate race, according to senior Democratic party sources.

With their support, Roemer immediately has an advantage over the declared candidates, former presidential candidate Howard Dean and former Clinton aide Harold Ickes...."

Roemer is president of the CNP, so I guess the party wants to go the national security route.
http://www.cnponline.org/#n

Suits me.

[KoKo]

1. Confirms my feelings about Reid and Pelosi.... sigh.....n/t

[madfloridian]

3. Time for a new wing of the party...Dean and DFA.

Suits me.

[MisterCompletly]

10. And those feelings are?

Perhaps they are in a FAQ and I missed them but the curiosity remains.

[HeilChimp]

2. Wake up! Dean is the MAN!

:puke:

Do they REALLY want a "Democrat" from an overwheming Repug state? When will the national Dems WAKE UP to the fact that being REPUG-LITE makes them LOSE elections! The "Democrat" candidate for Gov of MS made himself out to be more MORE RIGHT-WING than Chimp and he STILL lost!

Dean for DNC chair!!!

[JuniorPlankton]

5. I agree with your general sentiment

However, Clinton was Repug-lite and he was pretty successful.

GO DEAN!

[KoKo]

12. He was Southern and had a Great Personality who could carry folks

along with him. He spoke to the People, not "AT" the People...

[shirlden]

4. Here is a quote from Roemer

"The American people showed unity of purpose and effort in the months after 9/11. The bipartisan 9/11 Commission produced a unanimous report. Now Congress and the White House have come together. For the good of the American people, we must continue to cooperate on improvements needed in the area of national security."

-Tim Roemer

Sounds like just another lefty heading right. And who could give any credence to anyone who served on 9/11 commission. They sold their souls. No, we must not cooperate. We must fight.
I can see Reid backing this guy, but Pelosi is a disappointment, if this story is true.

[Radical Activist]

6. On the Issues calls him a moderate conservative

But they don't include his stance on corporate issues or the environment so I don't know how accurate that is. It looks like he is anti-choice. I wonder if that article is accurate. It doesn't name the source.
For anyone interested:
http://www.issues2000.org/IN/Tim_Roemer.htm

[whalerider55]

7. Roemer...

When Lieberman is too busy...

So Pelosi and Redi have the time to recruit candidates to run the DNC, but haven't gotten around to saying a goddam thing about the corrosion of voter enfranchisement?

And exactly where has Roemer been in this struggle.

I'm all ears- can anyone give me a reason, a proactive reason (not just "they are better than Bushco) to believe that these career politicians, the Legislative Dems, have any intention of challenging the status quo?

And who was the poster out there who reamed me about giving Reid a chance... after he had said he'd support chief justice scalia?

Sorry. This is just so deeply disappointing.

whalerider55

[madfloridian]

8. Yes, ignore the vote....worry about DNC chair.

Dean should stick with DFA....this party does not want any kind of change.

[KoKo]

13. MF....I begin to think we don't "have" a party, anymore. If we out here

are the only folks who care about cleaning up Fraud, Corruption and Lies
that took our country to war and is maiming and killing thousands of innocent Servicemen and Women and Iraqi's and Afghani's then I'd say that the "Business as Usual Dem Establishment, is the only Democratic Party in town. The rest of us are the "street sweepers."

[madfloridian]

14. Yes,that is the way I feel today.

See my post about my friends who saw Dean on Saturday. It is in DFA forum. He is not over, not by a long shot. The DNC chair is only one possibility.

I see the writing on the wall. Every time I trust Pelosi, then something like this happens. Then I remember the letter she helped compose to Dean about Israel...and I realize what our Democrats are mostly about.

[Tom Rinaldo]

9. While I want Foreign Policy experience for my Pres Candidate

I want vibrant grass roots responsive money raising fighting leadership from my Party Chair. That's Dean.

[DaveinMD]

11. on Roemer

this makes little sense. Ron Kirk, Ickes and Dean all seem like better choices.

[madfloridian]

15. Wikipedia on Roemer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_J._Roemer

[genius]

16. Pelosi backed a res linking Iraq to 9/11 We need a new leader.

Both Pelosi and Reid backed the Intel Ref Act, which contained parts of Patriot II and which limited the information Congress gets to what Bush decides is appropriate for them.

[ohioan]

18. I already pointed out to you that this allegation is not true.

Posting it one time can be attributed to error or lack of knowledge. But posting the claim again (repeatedly) after you have been corrected makes it seem as if you are purposedly misstating facts.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1419232#1422015

Nancy Pelosi did NOT back any resolution linking Iraq to 9/11. The resolution to which you referred did not such thing.

As I said the last time I corrected you on this, if you don't like Nancy Pelosi, that's all well and good. But distorting her record does nothing to bolser your case against her. It does, however, raise questions about your motivations and credibility.

[Leilani]

17. I watched quite a bit of the 9/11 hearings

& was not too impressed by Roemer.

He seemed to be one of those guys who wants everyone to like him.

[madfloridian]

19. Here's why....Roemer is pro-life in addition to national security.

http://www.lifenews.com/nat1044.html

They are going to back away from pro-choice...betcha. Any takers on it? Dean specifically said on MTP that he is pro-choice...reiterated it. They have been sending signals on this for a while...so here it is.

So, there you go.

More:
SNIP..."Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A former Indiana congressman who takes a pro-life position on abortion is being touted by the top Democrats in the House and Senate as the best pick to become the next chairman of the national Democratic Party.
The surprising move by Senate Democratic chief Harry Reid and House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi is sure to bring forth concerns from leading abortion advocacy groups about how the party handles the controversial issue.

Roemer, a former member of the commission that investigated the September 11th terrorist attacks, released a written statement Tuesday regarding speculation he is a potential candidate for the party's top post.

"I have been approached very recently by several prominent Democrats inquiring about my interest in seeking the post of DNC chair," he said, according to a CNN report.

"While I am flattered by their confidence in me, I have made no formal decision to seek the post," Roemer explained. "I am, however, consulting with my family, friends and Democrats around the country to assess this potential opportunity, and expect to make a decision very soon."

In the statement, the former South Bend-area congressman, acknowledged that the incoming chairman would have the power to help "shape the future organization, message and direction of the party."

[lojasmo]

20. I hope nobody's surprised by Reid's endorsement...

The party is absolutely done for if this takes place.

There will be no reason to vote for Democrats over Republicans if Reid, Pelosi, and Roemer have their way with the direction of the party.

[Geek_Girl]

21. If Dean Doesn't Win DNC Chair

That will be the last straw. I will be tearing up my card and voting green or Nader or staying home. I've had it. The democratic party sucks ball sacks and I've always considered myself a centrists. If this is the kind of crappy leadership we have you can kiss the party goodbye. Nader was right there really is no difference and I thought my dad was an idiot for voting for Nader but he was right.

[ohioan]

22. Talk about falling into a cult of personality!

Howard Dean is not the end-all-and-be-all of the Democratic Party. If you really believe that he is and that, unless he and he alone becomes the party chair, we can all kiss the party goodbye, perhaps you're better off defecting since, you'll always be sorely disappointed in not only the Democrats, but Howard Dean himself. After all, Howard Dean isn't even really Howard Dean - at least he's not the infallible party saviour that some of his acolytes seem to believe he is. He could never live up to expectations.