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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 08:32 PM
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"This is an issue on which I campaigned and I'm still standing"--Bush
Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 08:32 PM by Truth Hurts A Lot
Referring to his radical Social Security plan. To this I say, let him do it. This is what the American people voted for. I'm so scared about where this country is headed, but my hope is that when Bush totally destroys everything we've built up, that the Republicans will never get the chance to lead again.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=3&u=/ap/20041217/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_social_security
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 08:33 PM
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1. Assuming there's anything left
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 08:34 PM
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2. He didn't really campaign on this, that's why he's lying now
What a piece of garbage this Chimp of a man is.
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BlueOhio Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 08:36 PM
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3. Your average American
Has a very short memory and has a tendency to believe just about anything they are told, bush could get cities leveled with nukes and peeps would still vote republican because the republicans are the saviors of the mentally unsound.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 08:38 PM
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5. Oh, I think they'll remember this one, this time
When their parents no longer get their SS checks, and they begin to notice that America looks more like a 3rd world country.
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marc_the_dem Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 08:36 PM
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4. He's solidifying his legacy
as the worst president ever....
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 08:39 PM
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6. Bush promised SS benefits would not be cut...
He also said there would be no reductions. Sure.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 08:39 PM
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7. The fascist-corporatists have been seeking to regain power ever since...
...they caused the Great Depression in the 1930s. Call them Republicans, neocons, or whatever, collapsing the economy won't stop them. They have done this before and they're doing it again.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 08:42 PM
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8. SS could be the great awakening
for many Americans who voted Shrub. Many of them don't give a rap about anything that doesn't directly affect them, and this will. My Conman, a Repuke in a very red district even came out with a statement that said he "...will not support any legislation that proposes cutting benefits for current retirees, raising taxes, or raising the retirement age." So they are being a little more careful on this one. But rest assured, they will still try to pull the wool over everyone's eyes.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 08:48 PM
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11. They'll attach it to some omnibus spending bill.
Snuck in on page 3,456, written in Greek, and delivered to Congress 3 minutes before the vote. They don't dare put their agenda up to the light of day so we can hold them accountable.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 08:50 PM
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12. There would be war
if they did that, because it would be evident the next month when the checks came out. No, this issue is to big to try a stunt like that. Grannies in wheelchairs would storm their Conmen's office.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 08:56 PM
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15. They'll get their full checks
What'll kill us is the massive budget slashing and borrowing they'll be doing to make up for the shortfall of SS funds diverted into the stock market. Look for bigass changes proposed in the coming tax overhaul that's next up on their agenda. Republicans are already talking about eliminating mortgage, employer healthcare, and state tax deductions.
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:09 PM
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17. Charlie you hit the nail on the head.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 08:45 PM
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9. A few timid references to "looking into it" hardly makes it a theme
of his campaign.

He's a liar. He knows damn well if he had proposed this as a "vision", he'd have lost millions of votes. Republicans never campaign on their real agenda, they use hot buttons to pander to voters that are so wrapped up in their single issues, they're unable to see the Big Picture.

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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 08:47 PM
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10. yes. and in the meantime, people (the elderly) who have no social security
and no other income to live on may start committing suicide--so much for bush's belief in the sanctity of life--and so much for the 3000 dead in the twin towers that he likes to use to manipulate his war on terror, his presidency and everything else...by the time he ends up wrecking social security and people's dependency on their social security for their livelihood, he will have ended up wrecking up more than the 3,000 lives that were sadly lost in the twin towers collapse.

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 08:52 PM
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13. Before there was SS
two of my great grandfathers did just that. They were disabled, and one lost his money to swindlers, the other lost his caregiver. Both very sad cases that wouldn't have happened if there had been SS in their time.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 08:57 PM
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16. right. i was aware that during the depression people committed suicide too
I am sorry about your great grandfathers who found that life was no longer sustainable for them and opted to end it ...there will be many more opting to do the same if bush gets his way with people's social security and medical benefits...and i don't know if there is any way to keep bush from destroying people's safety net.

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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 08:54 PM
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14. A campaign of hot air, thin ice and talkin' out his ass.
His bots are buying that "personal account" bullshit without giving it a second thought. "It's like the stock market, only your money is secure" is a line I was fed by a very gullible co-worker. Any attempt to get these people to look deeper into this proposal results in the standard, "oh you just hate anything Bu$h does!". I so hate it when they peg me and put me in my place! :dunce:

Sad.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:21 PM
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18. Arrogant twit..........n/t
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:34 PM
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19. Funny, he actually didn't really campaign on that. He even denied
some things he supposedly said at a private fund-raising dinner about "piratizing" Social Security.

I think there are a lot of older people who wouldn't have voted for him if he'd 'campaigned" on Social Security.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:46 PM
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20. bushtard is "still standing" because
of the voting machines being manipulated.

Sociopaths and psychopaths have no conscience and qualms about lying through their teeth..too bad he's the president(sic)of our Country.
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