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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:18 PM
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The only way Bush can be exposed as a fraud is for NOONE to fight him.
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 12:18 PM by blm
Bush doesn't want to be the president who makes abortion illegal so he makes sure that there are always some prochoice Republicans. Why do you think he backed Specter, Collins and Hutchison?

I say our pols should sit back and let the GOP extremists draft legislation to ban abortion. Bush is not prolife and he is not really even a Christian, he just uses those positions to gain loyal votes from those who fell for his pious act. You think he really has a different position from his MOTHER and his WIFE on abortion? The only way he can be exposed is to let the banning of abortion act play out.

The same with the gay marriage amendment. Bush doesn't really believe being gay is just a choice. He is surrounded by gays HE hired to work for him and he said he supports civil unions. He only USED the gay issue to bring out those voters who were led to believe that Christianity and the Bible were under attack by the gay agenda. He was playing the NUMBERS game.

Bush was a political STRATEGIST for decades, just like Atwater and Rove. He will SAY and DO anything to WIN power. His only belief is that power belongs to the Bush family and their loyal fascist cronies around the globe.

The only way he will LOSE power is if the religious base who fell for his act see for themselves that they were used.

Time for Bush to be put on the spot.

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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:21 PM
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1. has he ever actually said he opposes abortion personally?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:43 PM
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4. No. One of his spokespeople slipped and said he wouldn't make abortion
illegal a few weeks before the election on Hardball. Nicolle Devenish, I'm pretty sure was her name. She wasn't seen for a while after that. Rove didn't want the base to catch wind of it.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:56 PM
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5. but it's a true statement. Bush can't make abortion illegal
only a Supreme Court judge can, and even Bush nominating and approving one who could do it would need a majority ruling in a case that may or may not come up giving them the opportunity to do so.
And as Justice Souter has proven, nothing is a given.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:22 PM
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2. Just like the Security Bill he's signing
Never wanted a homeland security,or a 911 commission, and never wanted to do commission's suggestions. But all were eventually done. why? Because the political wind blew his way. This guy has no vision short of tax breaks for the rich. But now he gets the credit for these acts and he shouldn't get any credit.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:42 PM
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3. I agree....with all his earned political capital, he ought to be
bringing up bills to ban abortion, kill social security, and ban gay civil unions. Let's see him support the agenda that he campaigned on.
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Lostnote03 Donating Member (850 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 01:13 PM
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6. bush JR=Poser/User
.....Bush is simply using the southern conservative base.....The stacking of the courts with Pro-Corporate/pro-life Judges will determine the long term impact of faith-based voting....As for now we certainly are witnessing war profiteering run amok.....Best Wishes and thoughtful post
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bbmykel Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 02:16 PM
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7. I believe the Jews adopted a similar strategy against Hitler
and Hitler was certainly exposed. I'm not sure one could categorize it as a successful strategy though. :-p

If you think playing possum will stop the overturn of Roe v. Wade, you are wrong. If you think playing possum will stop a gay marriage ammendment, you are wrong. He WILL do these things.

The fact that Bush is an opportunist and a phony doesn't necessarily mean the rightwing Christian agenda won't get passed. Bush doesn't care. He will do whatever it takes to keep their support. His political calculation is that the so-called "moderate" Republicans won't desert because they have nowhere else to go (you know--kind of like how the Democratic Party treats the progressives).

The Democrats should fight all the way but they shouldn't put their fingerprints on any of it. Just say no to "bi-partisanship". That way they can disavow it all later.

By the way, he backed "pro choice" Republicans so now they "owe" him. Dance Arlen, dance!







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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 02:49 PM
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8. The difference is that getting rid of the Jews WAS Hitler's agenda.
Bush doesn't really want to be the president who pursues antiabortion legislation.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 05:47 PM
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9. yeah, the old "give them enough rope" con job.
They certainly had all the rope they needed - and we are getting hung.
The media changes tune as they change, people in this country have ADD - who cares if yesterday W was saying he won't privatize Social security and today he says the opposite? it's not like anyone who cares can do anything anyway. We can't vote, remember?

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:30 PM
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10. It would be a con job if Bush really wanted abortion to be illegal
but he doesn't. You think he really is a Christian? You think he wants his whole presidency to be reduced to the president who banned abortion?

I think his ego is way too great for that. Besides, it would guarantee the soonest shift to the left, and that is NOT compatible with their fascist goals which are WAY more important to them.
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