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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:07 AM
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Woman Pleads Guilty to Threatening Bush
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Woman Pleads Guilty to Threatening Bush
Mon Dec 20,11:57 PM ET

CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa - A woman pleaded guilty Monday to two counts of threatening President Bush (news - web sites).

A grand jury indicted Catherine M. Guertin, 24, in August and she was arrested the next month. Her guilty plea was entered as part of an agreement with federal prosecutors, according to court documents.

The threats were made in May while Guertin was living in Independence, the indictment says.

The woman allegedly threatened Bush by saying, "I want him gone" and "If I ever have a gun, I will shoot him between the eyes." She also allegedly wrote statements threatening the president.

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&ncid=703&e=6&u=/ap/20041221/ap_on_go_pr_wh/brf_president_threat
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:40 AM
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1. "Wrote statements" and sent them to Bush? Or did she intend these
statements for someone else's eyes? This story is so short that it's hard to tell whether she posed a legitimate threat. I have to say that I doubt it....
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cyn2 Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:00 AM
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2. More detail...
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:43 AM
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3. And one additional scrap of info -- threats were written in her journal.
Officials said Guertin told a Secret Service agent May 3 that she did not agree with Bush's war policies. She said she thought that the president was a liar and that he was only interested in securing oil supplies.

Guertin also reportedly said that she wanted to kill Bush "because he kills people that do not agree with him," and that she wanted to make a bomb the next time she was in Washington, D.C.

"I want him gone," Guertin reportedly told the agent, referring to Bush. "I want him dead. I want to attack him. If I ever have a gun, I will shoot him between the eyes."

Officials said that on May 16, Guertin wrote in her journal that she hated the president and wanted to kill him.


http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041221/NEWS08/412210377/1010

It would be nice to know a little more about this...
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:47 AM
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4. How did they know what was in her journal?
I'm assuming she said something to someone, and a phone call was made. Good grief.
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:24 PM
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5. I assume they searched her belongings after she made those
unfortunate comments to the agent. I'd like to know the particulars of the case ... and why the agent was talking to her in the first place. Someone probably did hear her spouting off, and made a call. But I'd feel better about the whole thing if they'd report enough detail to show she was actually a threat.
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 02:07 PM
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7. Look, if you use those words...
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 02:08 PM by bush_is_wacko
in this country or any other that is a crime! It looks like a direct enough threat to me. How many people do you think there really are out there that don't realize this? I feel sorry for this woman. She cracked-up but if she made those statements the law is clear.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 02:00 PM
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6. thus the line between passionate dissent and crime becomes more stark
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 02:00 PM by Supersedeas
Words, not deeds, means so much to Oligarchal loyalists.

So, what nice things have you said about me lately?

Rove smiles.
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 02:20 PM
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8. Every "dissident" here should keep tabs on this story
Watch how the fascists handle this case, and see what happens to this woman. Wonder how long it will take to "dissapear" her to Gitmo.
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