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IowaBiker Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 04:15 AM
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Kerry from an Iowa Caucus Goer
Edited on Tue Jan-20-04 04:28 AM by IowaBiker
Kerry's taking of Iowa is not an anomoly.

After attending my caucus where 95 of 251 attendees went for Kerry, 97 for Edwards, and the remainder for Dean, a few things became clear.

After spending the evening at the Hotel Fort Des Moines, with the Kerry supporters even more became obvious.

Biggest factor was electability. Iowans were looking for somebody who can beat Bush, high attendance at the caucuses reflected a lot of anger towards Bush . Among the throngs of Kerry and Edwards supporters were moderate Republicans who are sick and tired of Bush extremism. A phrase making the rounds and may be due to replace the term "neoconservatives" was "cracker conservatives," a term that does not bode well for Edwards.

On ag issues in Iowa.

Dean saw the Iowa farm vote as monolithic, which it is not -- he stereotyped the electorate and that to me was very, very bad. It reflects a failure of his machine to read and touch voters. Edwards is a "big pork" candidate with his North Carolina ties, and connections to Smithfield. His votes for big pork lost him the endoresement of Iowa Secretary of State Patty Judge. She is a wonderful person I have spoken with regarding Iowa Pork issues, and with whom I had an opportunity to speak for 15 minutes or so at the victory celebration. John Kerry to her was the only candidate able to understand the complexity of farm economics. For you Edwards supporters, I can simplify this issue for you as being equal to Bush being for big beef or big oil -- it boils down to anti food safety and pro pollution. What is interesting is that while Kerry people were aware of this hot button, they acknowledged it but did not push it -- they eye Edwards as a running mate.

Kerry's experience and record of activism ran deep with voters. He comes across as a man who returned from 'Nam with a mission to make this country a better place. His experience fighting for what he believes is right, as opposed to Clark's new found religion, seemed to play a lot here. Kerry comes across as dedicated.

Kerry plays well when he speaks. "A bit like Kennedy." "Looks like Lincoln." "Sounds like FDR." He comes across as a leader. And as somebody who could occupy the White house as a statesman who displays a profound dignity.

My precinct is heavy professional, which skews blue collar. I saw younger voters split for Dean and Edwards. People from the Vietnam era overwhelmingly went for Kerry. And again, a lot of former Republicans who felt the party has abandoned them.

The other factor is the veteran vote. I'd dismissed it as a secondary or tertiary factor before tonight, but it is very real. It's not something you see in the numbers, but feel in a crowd. And I'm sure a lot of 50-60 somethings felt it. I missed 'nam by a couple of weeks. Tested, pre-enlisted and all but signed up with a low double-digit lottery number. I was ready to go when Nixon cancelled the draft. But I'm old enough to see the hurt and emptyness that so many vets returned home with. At a Kerry rally, that look of loss is gone. This candidate, like no other I've ever seen, gives these guys hope, and for good reason. He as fought for them ever since he got back.

After seeing John Kerry fight for this issue -- which to many politicians is a hopeless, thankless cause -- I feel comfortable in trusting him with other critical issues that other politicians may give up on.

I haven't been this excited about a candidate in a long time. He makes Bush's sissy walk on the aircraft carrier look like what it was - a sissy walk by a pretender. Kerry is the real deal. It's been a long time since I've seen that.

"Bring 'em on!" was the cry that ended the night. And what a battle cry that is.

Brian
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 04:19 AM
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1. what an awesome report
thanks for the update :thumbsup:
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kayleybeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 04:22 AM
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2. Thanks so much for the report!
And congrats to Kerry and his supporters! I'm a Clark supporter, but I have to say, Kerry's win in Iowa is HUGE! Way to go!
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 04:23 AM
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3. Yes, yes, yes
"A bit like Kennedy." "Looks like Lincoln." "Sounds like FDR." He comes across as a leader.

I thought two of these three previously myself. And I think he comes across as a leader.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 04:33 AM
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6. I had to laugh
when I was reading a story where a New Hampshire voter said of Kerry: "put a beard on him and he's Lincoln". Which conjured up a vision of a 'costume debate' where the candidates dress like a former President...
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Johnyawl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 11:25 AM
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12. lol a costume debate, that would be great, but...

...who the hell would 'W' dress up as, Warren G. Harding?
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 04:29 AM
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4. Better On the Groud Report than the Talking Penis Heads
Campbell Brown? What a waste of time? Let's go back to the hotel and get drunk/laid, would've been a better expenditure of her time than arguing with Pat Buchannan and Killer Joe Scarborough. Nice try.Campbell:loveya:
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lucidmadman Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 04:29 AM
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5. Nice insights...
...I appreciate you putting these thoughts together. I'm glad JFK had a victory tonight.
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lucidmadman Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 04:33 AM
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7. Was 'that guy' having a...
...skieing flashback and proving he knew the names of the states or what?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:42 AM
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8. the Excitement is real. Kerry is real. Great post!
I loved these parts:

Kerry's experience and record of activism ran deep with voters. He comes across as a man who returned from 'Nam with a mission to make this country a better place. His experience fighting for what he believes is right, as opposed to Clark's new found religion, seemed to play a lot here. Kerry comes across as dedicated.

Damn. This post has made my day. It is sublime.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:51 AM
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9. thank you
And thanks to the caucus-goers in Iowa, no matter who they supported. You guys were a great advertisement for Democracy last night.

And you sent forth from Iowa a winning candidate!
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 11:15 AM
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10. I'm enjoying all these inside reports
Thanks!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 11:18 AM
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11. Great posting.
Comprehensive report.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 11:51 AM
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13. kick
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 11:58 AM
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14. Thanks for the scoop n/t
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 12:09 PM
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15. This puts CMB's debate question for Edwards in perspective. Dean must have
had her ask that question intending to really hurt him.

Interesting how a vote to save jobs can come back to burn you. Edwards kept trying to say that being anti-monopoly was the way to balance being pro-employment without it being purely a move to help big business, but I guess people weren't persuaded by that logic.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:59 PM
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18. Yep. Internal numbers were already beginning to show.
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mastein Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 12:10 PM
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16. Thanks
As a former Iowan, I appreciate the insights. Also, I think you might know my father-in-law or mother-in-law, esp. if you are in the NE part of the state. Contact me off line if you can.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:49 PM
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17. Kick for the positve message.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:52 PM
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19. Thanks, Iowabiker for a superb caucus report and your impressions of Kerry
Riveting. I love Iowa, too!
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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:56 PM
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20. Thanks, Brian for
an excellent and informative post.

And, welcome to DU :hi:
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:00 PM
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21. Interesting report, thanks!
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:30 AM
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22. a great read
thanks for that.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:52 AM
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23. Tbe crucial part was electability.
Some think him just another pretty face. I recall calling his office during the patriot act vote..Those internet followers knew what the Patriot Act mean't..Why did not Kerry.We did..Kucinich did.That was not the only time we called to protest Kerry's votes..Remember the ioxitic campaign by an independent in Massachusetts against Kerry's awful votes in his last Senate race after thousands stormed his office. Are our memories that short.?
I expect real leader to not have to make Monday morning coversions.
As is the case so often in the US,looking presidential means looking pretty and either no substance or don't commit.
Other than his disagreeable votes, one person's review of Kerry that effects us...Dr. Helen Caldicott...She laid out how pols in DC vote for military boondoggle projects for big defense contractors.
Kerry did not fare well with Dr. Helen Caldicott's review of his voting record.In fact she thought him a good old boy with lots of image makers about..... I think Iowan's are too easily swayed by pretty faces.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 09:48 AM
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24. so give us a link to Kerry's worship at the altar of Pentagon pork
if anything his problem has been the opposite.
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