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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:00 AM
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WHO is to blame for BUSH'S war?
Bush claims Saddam is a threat. Bush claims Saddam has WMDs. Bush claims Saddam has ties to Al Qaida. Bush and his administration promote questionable intelligence that supports their preconceptions and prejudices, and reject that which counters it.

Bush puts Rummy in charge of the war. Rummy fires general who says "we need more troops". Rummy says we can do more with less. Rummy says "lighter is better than armored". Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld say we'll be met with flower petals. They say the war will be entirely paid for by oil revenues. They say the reconstruction will be paid for entirely by oil revenues.

Bush says he's giving diplomacy a chance, but he's giving the world a middle finger. Powell says he's showing the Security Council evidence of Saddam's duplicity, but he shows them pictures of warehouses. Bush claims a coalition of the willing, that's really a coalition of the billing -- a mish-mash of third-world nations with token contributions. Only England offers tangible support.

Bush sends the troops into battle, claiming he had no choice. But Saddam had caved on every Bush demand (inspectors were allowed back in, his long-range missiles were being destroyed).

Bush declares mission accomplished. Bush taunts the insurgency. The insurgency kills our men and women. The commanders on the ground scream for more troops. They scream for armor. They scream for protected mess halls. Those screams fall on deaf ears.

So who sent our troops into Iraq on false pretenses? Who sent them in unarmored? Who refused to provide enough troops to stabilize the country effectively? Who taunted the Iraqi opposition with "bring 'em on"? Who approved the American-branded torture chambers? Who has rewarded the secretary of defense who has negligently ignored the armor shortage in Iraq?

And who keeps them there as they continue to die?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/12/22/114038/29

NO WMD.

NO ties to 911.

NO ties to al Qaeda or any other international terrorist organization.

NO threat to the USA or to anyone else.

NO humanitarian intervention.

NO world support.


And who keeps them there as they continue to die?
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:06 AM
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1. Do you really think Dubya formulates ONE IOTA of policy?
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 09:07 AM by BlueEyedSon
He's just a bumbling front man.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:12 AM
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2. I have long thought that he is merely a puppet.
Cheney puts a key in his ass and winds him up. The very few press conferences he has had show that he has no handle on the situation. If not for the hidden microphone somewhere on his body he would not be able to speak.
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wolfgirl Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:15 AM
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4. Don't underestimate Bush...
he is bright enough to know what he wants and how to get it...by surrounding himself with toadies....the 2000 election proved he was a lot brighter than we knew. He was bright enough to know how to manipulate the press/the people.

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DeepGreen Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:13 AM
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3. Who is to blame - * and his cronies, his supporters, and a big
chunk of it goes to the media !!!!! The media should feel shame
for being a major part of so many deaths !
:grr:
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:32 AM
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5. I still remember when his cronies called it "the Bush war" (good ol' times
Now, in spite of having heard Obama say : "this is no longer Bush's war, it's America's war" - I have yet to see the bill of sale on that one.
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4MoreYearsOfHell Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:35 AM
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6. Who is to blame?
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 09:36 AM by 4MoreYearsOfHell
PNAC...the oil industry...the military/industrial folks whose demands on our treasury are bankrupting our nation...

Rice, Rummy, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith...

Bush's own weak moral character that dictates that he surround himself with people whose primary qualification is loyalty to the chimperor, true ability be damned...

Well-funded right-wing media types Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, Savage, O'Reilly, Scarborough whose hate-filled venom daily brainwashes the un-informed and tongue-lashes the dissenters...

Don't forget the F***wads who have voted for him - they are not without blame...

Every asshole who continues to spout "fight them there than here" - "Saddam did have WMD's" - "did have ties to Al-Qaeda" - "we were attacked" - "9/11 changed everything"





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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:46 AM
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8. W only in the third place - only for being weak? "F* Saddam, he's going
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 09:48 AM by robbedvoter
down!" he was screaming in 2002. Right after 911 he was asking Richard Clark to make a case for Saddam being behind it.
Wait, did I say 2002? How about 1999?


http://russbaker.com/Guerrilla%20News%20Network%20-%20B...
“He was thinking about invading Iraq in 1999,” said author and journalist Mickey Herskowitz. “It was on his mind. He said to me: ‘One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief.’ And he said, ‘My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it.’ He said, ‘If I have a chance to invade….if I had that much capital, I’m not going to waste it. I’m going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I’m going to have a successful presidency.”

You bought Woody's whitewash I see. W may be dim, but he loooves war and killing - and he was hardly waiting for a reason for it.
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4MoreYearsOfHell Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 11:24 AM
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9. I blame Bush, of course,
and do not buy Woody's whitewash - which I am almost done with...

But the others that I listed are not without fault and have created the type of environment in which a turd like * can have his way...

In Woody's whitewash, I find it sickening how he constantly mentions how the f***heads in this admin are so enamored of one another's "body language"...

Creepy...
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:41 AM
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7. Bill Clinton's penis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Am I right?
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:15 PM
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10. You forgot 'false claims of genocide'.
Check out today's Lew Rockwell. Apparently the whole "he gassed his own people" story may have been just false.

That was the one reason that kept me hanging on, too.
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