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Sun Dec-26-04 04:53 PM
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http://www.rense.com/general42/werq.htmThe neoconservative blueprint for U.S. military domination is hardly a secret. A group called the Project for a New American Century--a think tank founded by hawks who now hold prominent jobs in the White House--released a version of it three years ago. The document is shocking in its candor: It asserts that the United States should be moving unilaterally to assert military control around the globe, and that all that's necessary to jump-start the effort is a "new Pearl Harbor."
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Sun Dec-26-04 04:55 PM
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1. LOL... of course it is, where do you think our reality came from? |
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Edited on Sun Dec-26-04 04:55 PM by BlueEyedSon
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ayeshahaqqiqa
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Sun Dec-26-04 04:56 PM
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this website has been around-and discussed-for several years now. Sort of reminds me of "Mein Kampf" in that the plans for the world are detailed-and nothing has been able to be done about it.
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Sun Dec-26-04 04:56 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if they did order the 9/11 attacks, but I'm not convinced yet. I have no reason to think they were above it, though.
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Sun Dec-26-04 06:44 PM
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11. the way it happened, the undeniable complicity of the corporate media |
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taking the day sept 11/01 all alone, all the odditys can be explained as happenstance, but...as mike ruppert says in recent issue of 'global outlook' magazine, the fact that war game exercises including hijacking of civilian jets and crashing them into buildings in new york washington etc have never been thoroughly looked at by congress says the 'execrcises' might be the holy grail of 9/11...check out 'tripod 11' or 'vigilant guardian' 'northern vigilance' and 'vigilant warrior' which were the names of the 4 exercises that were ongoing the morning of sept11th, and reduced the ability of the system to react to real emergency to only 8 aircraft! yet the newsmedia has barely mentioned these operations, which tied up the whole security apparatus at a critical time: dick cheney was onscene and in charge at the time the 1st jet was 'hijacked'
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Sun Dec-26-04 04:59 PM
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4. Its called Empire Building....you must view |
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Edited on Sun Dec-26-04 05:00 PM by eaprez
Hijacking Catastrophe 9/11, Fear, and the Selling of American Empire which you can view at http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6895.htmit will blow your socks off!
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Sun Dec-26-04 05:18 PM
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5. Sorry to see this, this actually started in 1991 and was shot down |
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in the media. Mr. Bush Sr. described as ludicrous and denounced its intentions. The original document was written by Dr. Paul Wolfowitz. This document was sleeved and re-written 1995 with the following signatories:
Roger Barnett U.S. Naval War College
Alvin Bernstein National Defense University
Stephen Cambone National Defense University
Eliot Cohen Nitze School of Advanced International Studies, Johns Hopkins University
Devon Gaffney Cross Donors' Forum for International Affairs
Thomas Donnelly Project for the New American Century
David Epstein Office of Secretary of Defense, Net Assessment
David Fautua Lt. Col., U.S. Army
Dan Goure Center for Strategic and International Studies
Donald Kagan Yale University
Fred Kagan U. S. Military Academy at West Point
Robert Kagan Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
Robert Killebrew Col., USA (Ret.)
William Kristol The Weekly Standard
Mark Lagon Senate Foreign Relations Committee
James Lasswell GAMA Corporation
I. Lewis Libby Dechert Price & Rhoads
Robert Martinage Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessment
Phil Meilinger U.S. Naval War College
Mackubin Owens U.S. Naval War College
Steve Rosen Harvard University
Gary Schmitt Project for the New American Century
Abram Shulsky The RAND Corporation
Michael Vickers Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessment
Barry Watts Northrop Grumman Corporation
Paul Wolfowitz Nitze School of Advanced International Studies, Johns Hopkins University
Dov Zakheim System Planning Corporation
Now the group consist of the following:
Elliott Abrams Gary Bauer William J. Bennett Jeb Bush Dick Cheney Eliot A. Cohen Midge Decter Paula Dobriansky Steve Forbes Aaron Friedberg Francis Fukuyama Frank Gaffney Fred C. Ikle Donald Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad I. Lewis Libby Norman Podhoretz Dan Quayle Peter W. Rodman Stephen P. Rosen Henry S. Rowen Donald Rumsfeld Vin Weber George Weigel Paul Wolfowitz
Many of these people you will recognize!
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Capn Sunshine
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Sun Dec-26-04 05:28 PM
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7. Funny , you left Will Marshall, NDOL, off the list of signatories |
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just an oversight, I'm sure
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Sun Dec-26-04 06:35 PM
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9. I know you are correct, but his name does not appear on the site |
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Sun Dec-26-04 07:10 PM
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http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraq-20030319.htmHe also had a seat on the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, a PNAC offshoot.
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Sun Dec-26-04 07:54 PM
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14. There is a list that I missed, thank you! |
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Ronald Asmus Max Boot Frank Carlucci Eliot Cohen Ivo H. Daalder Thomas Donnelly Peter Galbraith Jeffrey Gedmin Robert S. Gelbard Reuel Marc Gerecht Charles Hill Martin S. Indyk Bruce P. Jackson Robert Kagan Craig Kennedy William Kristol Tod Lindberg Will Marshall Joshua Muravchik Danielle Pletka Dennis Ross Randy Scheunemann. Gary Schmitt Walter Slocombe James B. Steinberg R. James Woolsey
There are a few repeats, later there will be quiz so study closely!
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Sun Dec-26-04 10:24 PM
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15. And here's the latest list of traitors from PNAC's most recent letter... |
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Urban Ahlin Madeleine K. Albright Giuliano Amato
Uzi Arad Timothy Garton Ash Anders Aslund
Ronald D. Asmus Rafael L. Bardaji Wladyslaw Bartoszewski
Arnold Beichman Jeff Bergner Joseph R. Biden
Carl Bildt Max Boot Ellen Bork
Pascal Bruckner Mark Brzezinski Reinhard Buetikofer
Janusz Bugajski Michael Butler Martin Butora
Daniele Capezzone Per Carlsen Gunilla Carlsson
Ivo Daalder Massimo D'Alema Pavol Demes
Larry Diamond Peter Dimitrov Thomas Donnelly
Nicholas Eberstadt Uffe Elleman-Jensen Helga Flores Trejo
Francis Fukuyama Jeffrey Gedmin Bronislaw Geremek
Carl Gershmann Marc Ginsberg Andre Glucksmann
Phil Gordon Karl-Theodor von und zu Guttenberg
Istvan Gyarmati Pierre Hassner Vaclav Havel
Richard C. Holbrooke Toomas Ilves Bruce Jackson
Donald Kagan Robert Kagan Craig Kennedy
Penn Kemble Glenys Kinnock Bernard Kouchner
Jerzy Kozminski Ivan Krastev William Kristol
Girts Valdis Kristovskis Ludger Kuehnhardt Mart Laar
Vytautas Landsbergis Stephen Larrabee
Mark Leonard Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger
Tod Lindberg Tom Malinowski
Will Marshall Margarita Mathiopoulos
Clifford May John McCain Michael McFaul
Matteo Mecacci Mark Medish Thomas O. Melia
Sarah E. Mendelson Michael Mertes Ilir Meta
Adam Michnik Richard Morningstar Joshua Muravchik Klaus Naumann Dietmar Nietan James O'Brien
Janusz Onyszkiewicz Cem Ozdemir Can Paker
Mark Palmer Martin Peretz Friedbert Pflueger
Danielle Pletka Florentino Portero Samantha Ravich
Janusz Reiter Alex Rondos Jim Rosapepe
Jacques Rupnik Eberhard Sandschneider
Randy Scheunemann Christian Schmidt
Gary Schmitt Simon Serfaty Stephen Sestanovich Radek Sikorski Stefano Silvestri Martin Simecka
Gary Smith Abraham Sofaer James Steinberg
Gary Titley Ivan Vejvoda Sasha Vondra
Celeste Wallander Ruth Wedgood Richard Weitz Kenneth Weinstein Jennifer Windsor R. James Woolsey
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Mon Dec-27-04 12:39 AM
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18. The Vast Neocon Conspiracy... |
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...isn't always what you expect!
Ivo Daalder: John Kerry ($500); also a foreign policy advisor to the Dean campaign
Larry Diamond: John Kerry ($2,000), DNC ($250), John Edwards ($500)
Mark Brzezinski: Kerry ($1,000), Lieberman ($500), Environment2004 ($500)
Tom Malinowski: Kerry ($500)
Kenneth Weinstein: Kerry ($1500)
Sarah Mendelson: Kerry ($300)
Mark Medish: Dean ($250), Kerry ($1000), DNC ($250)
Richard Morningstar: several matches for this name, but all gave to Democrats
Jim Rosapepe: Kerry ($2500), Edwards ($1000), Clark ($1000), Dean ($500); also gave to Landrieu, Daschle, Mikulski, Mongiardo, Van Hollen
Phillip Gordon: Kerry ($250)
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Sun Dec-26-04 05:28 PM
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6. Yup. Folks thought Hitler's "Mein Kampf" was BS, too, until he got enough |
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power to go through with it.
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Sun Dec-26-04 05:47 PM
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We are living it. Their agenda has been executed right on track (that includes 911). It will only get worse if we don't get them out of the WH and in prison. They deserve nothing LESS than prison terms. They have destroyed this country. :grr:
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Sun Dec-26-04 06:41 PM
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10. yep..bill kristol, paul wolfewicz, and company |
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rense can be heard on the genesis communications network. i forget the name of his show. i like alex jones and listen to him quite a bit when i have time.
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Sun Dec-26-04 07:21 PM
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13. Notice that the signatories inlcude only two military and those are |
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both col or lt col. Probably two old passed over guys, bitter and ready to audition to play the roll of the wacky grandfather in Soap.
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Sun Dec-26-04 10:32 PM
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16. I heard last week, they are an arm of the American Enterprise Institute |
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Not sure how big the building is they are housed in, but PNAC occupies a single floor. Amazing that a single floor in a building somewhere can change the direction of the entire world, at will. Spooky stuff.
Jeb Bush is a founding member of PNAC, so no hope of things ever getting better in this world.
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Sun Dec-26-04 11:42 PM
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17. And the most vile, racist, genocidal, |
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Edited on Sun Dec-26-04 11:42 PM by yodermon
but believeable quote from their "manifesto" follows: "...And advanced forms of biological warfare that can “target” specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool."
Our deputy secretary of defense mr Wolfowitz is a signatory to this satanic statment. :mad: See http://cryptome.org/rad.htm for the text version.
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Mon Dec-27-04 12:48 PM
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20. Speaking of "Pearl Harbor"...wasn't the Affleck movie "Pearl Harbor"... |
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released just a month or two BEFORE 9/11? As I recall, when I saw the trailer for it, I remember thinking, 'oh god...this is a promo of things to come!' Then it did. Wasn't the timing of that release shortly before 9/11?
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