Any one see Ron Reagan on hardball dismantling monica crowley

[Califooyah Operative]

and the 'values' issue. Thank you Ron.

[eleny]

1. yes - he did good

she's so breathy while he stays calm and goes point by point. i like him because he always surprises me at how he stays so calm.

[HootieMcBoob]

2. no - what did he say?

description of the action please?

[Daisey Mae]

3. He is turning out to be a quite nice guy.......

WAY TO GO RON.......

[blueknight]

5. ron is one of us.

and i think he does a good job

[Mika]

4. Can you give us a rundown on what was said

I just can't watch Tweety.

Thanks

[Pirate Smile]

6. I wish MSNBC would put Ron & Crowley's show on in Norville's spot and

forget about Tucker Carlson.

[HootieMcBoob]

7. Geez people

This sounds like it might be interesting but if you don't tell the people who didn't see it what happened this thread is absolutely useless.

[priapis]

10. detail please ....details- I so despise monica crowface

on her wabc radio show she sounds sort of like a conservative emily litella (the snl gilda ratner character).

she's also very full of herself, and brings up at least 3 or 4 times a week that she worked for (the near-death elderly) nixon.

[Califooyah Operative]

8. Lets see...

He started out doing some talk about framing the issues. Pro choice, pro life, anti choice anti life.

Crowley said dems need to stop being extreme on issues and values

Ron pointed out republicans stances on healthcare, war in iraq, and other issues hardly showed good values.

he also pointed out that 'under god' was added to the pledge under mcarthy, and he also asked monica crowley to name three values for what she was talkin about and she was silent. There's probably more but I cant remember. Watch it if you can. It's good.

[HootieMcBoob]

11. Thanks

I think they re-run it later. Ron Reagan is very good. It would be great if they gave him his own show but god forbid someone present a liberal/progressive point of view on television news.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

9. My brief but best shot at a synopsis....

Both Ron Reagan and Crowley agreed that Washington state has had 3 recounts and, although further recounts could yield yet another set of numbers, Rossi needs to concede so that Washington state can have a Governor.

Ron really hammered Crowley on "what values" do the Republicans stand for. For example, the 'under God' part of the pledge being added during the McCarthy era in order to weed out evil Communists and the issue of 100000 Iraqi civilians being killed. He asked her 'are these the values you're talking about?' It was really good.

Talked about the future of the Democrats and the leadership. Ron Reagan stated that the Democrats need to get their message across better, not change the message to Republican lite. Both Crowley and Reagan feel that Howard Dean will not be the next chair of the DNC......sorry, Dean supporters, just providing my synopsis.

That's the best of my recollection. Anyone else who watched, feel free to add/amend.

[Califooyah Operative]

12. One thing to add.

I agree that Ron didn't think Dean would get the job, but he sounded like he wanted him to. He used the term republican-lite. and talked about many of the same values and terms.

[Idioteque]

14. Ron Reagan has a great reform message...

...we should run him for something :D.

[Eric J in MN]

16. Apparently, he'll be co-hosting a daytime show on MSNBC

with Monica Crowley soon, which is as good as having him as a Congressman.

[newyawker99]

22. Hi Idioteque!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[NYCGirl]

17. He also said that he thought Dean would run in 2008.

Which is AOK with me.

[eaprez]

13. Why can't our Dem Leaders be that way?

[rfranklin]

15. Perhaps Ron is a Dem leader...

Instead of the corporate whores we have now.

[AzDar]

18. He's turned out very well, considering his raisin'...lol.....n/t

[bklyncowgirl]

19. Last half hour was a good show, Ron Reagan and Paul Krugman.

Reagan and Crowley were very good.

Ron Reagan's one liberal talking head who can calmly and respectfully dismantle a right wing arguement and not back down. He said that he didn't think Dean would be voted DNC chair (sadly, I agree). Crowley was positively frothing at the mouth at the possibility saying that this would be suicide for the Democrats. Question, why should the Democrats listen to a right wing ideologue when it comes to who will head the party? I don't know but they probably will.

This was followed by Paul Krugman who as usual was sane and understandable on both the problems in the airline and is one of the few people who is lucid and reassuring regarding social security. He needs to be out there more.

[Shopaholic]

20. Tweety wasn't there tonight-still on vacation--Thank God--it

made the show actually watchable! Ron kicked ass. He really challenged the bubble-headed bleached blonde on every absurd thing that fell out of her mouth. Did y'all notice how when he challenged her she was try to change the subject and claim that wasn't what she said or meant and then launch into another subject?

[nomatrix]

21. Ron said Dems need to stop letting Repubs frame

the debate.
(this is what I got from it)

Such as
they are "Pro-life/ Anti-Abortion"
it makes us the polar opposite "anti-life/ Pro-abortion"

they use the words "faith based or under God"
again, the opposite, "no faith no God"

Quit letting them bully us into a corner on our positions.

He went onto explain there are some cases where parental notification is not necessary like when Dad is the father of the baby. Are you going to ask him for permission?

I have liked Ron from way back to his GMA days. Considering his daddy was prez while georgies was vice. He has always had the upper hand as well as brains.

[Capn Sunshine]

23. Gee... YA THINK?

Too bad none of the geniuses in the DNC listened to that advice during the campaign

They still haven't figured out that to see the center from the DNC, you have to look to your left,and you'll NEVER EVER see it if you look only to your right.

[JerseygirlCT]

24. It seems so blatantly obvious to so many here --

why oh why are the Dem powers that be not getting the message?

[Miami Liberal]

25. Are they getting their own slot on MSNBC?

or will they be commentators for the Joe Scarborough show?