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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:19 AM
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Scarborough: "Dems more suited to star in “Lost” than to regain power"
The latest ruminations from Joe "They Found My Intern Dead In My Office" Scarborough.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6765831/#041229a

I learned a long time ago that when it came to the world of politics, whom the gods would destroy, they first curse with power. Think Bill Clinton and the Democratic Congress of 1992. The Democrats’ unchecked dominance led to tax hikes and Hillary healthcare, which ushered in the era of Newt Gingrich and my freshman class of 1994, whose arrogance and over-reaching resurrected Clinton in 1996, which led to Impeachment in 1998, which led to Bush in 2000.

Bush and Republicans dominated Washington in 2000, made surprising gains in 2002, and stunned the political world in 2004 by gaining seats in the House and Senate, while their President did what most believed couldn’t be done: He got re-elected. Now the Democratic Party seems more suited to guest star in the new ABC drama “Lost” than to regain power anytime soon.

Zell Miller is right. The Democratic Party is a national party no more.

But give Ed Gilliespie, Ken Mehlman or myself the keys of the DNC for four years and we could once again put Democrats in power in the House and Senate. That’s because Republicans understand middle America - national Democrats don’t.

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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:21 AM
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1. Middle 'Merica have dead interns in their office?
Who knew? :shrug:
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:23 AM
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2. What's this dead intern story? I never heard about this one??? nt
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:26 AM
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5. From Daily Kos:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/6/15/203432/052

Joe Scarborough threatens to sue Michael Moore
by Mimir
Tue Jun 15th, 2004 at 17:34:32 PST

Scarborough did not appreciate Moore's explanation to an NBC reporter as to why he would not appear on Scarborough's show. Moore rehashed the facts concerning Lori Klausutis, a young intern found dead in Scarborough's Florida office, around the time Scarborough announced he would not seek reelection. Scarborough says Moore accused him of being a murderer:

SCARBOROUGH: You going to talk to Michael?
GOLDBERG: When he has time for me.
SCARBOROUGH: When he has time for you, just tell him to stop going around calling me a murderer or I`m going to have to call my lawyers. Will you do that for me?
GOLDBERG: Well, I`m sure you can get to him yourself, Joe, but I appreciate you having me on. I really do.

Once again, Moore is casually commenting on facts that he reasonably assumes the media already knew about. Scarborough will come out with egg on his face, as Peter Jennings did for challenging Moore's apt description of Bush as a deserter. If Scarborough is serious about his threat, then he will suffer a worse defeat than Bill O'Reilly (in going after Franken).
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:28 AM
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7. Thanks...didn't know that one. nt
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:56 AM
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13. Yeah Joe, sue him
Let's see what the court says.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:24 AM
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3. Well
Fuck him and the elephant he rides in on.
That intern killer is a psycho...just look at his squinty, beedy eyes.

:kick:
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:26 AM
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4. Bush and the Republicans dominated Washington in 2000?
Huh!?!? Didn't Bush LOSE the popular vote? I think he meant that Bush and Republicans dominated the Florida election process and the SCOTUS. Oh, that must be what he means by 'dominating Washington'. OK.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:27 AM
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6. She wasn't an intern - she was a staffer
Edited on Thu Dec-30-04 11:29 AM by Stephanie
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:35 AM
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10. That article refers to her as an "aide" to Scarborough...
...which to me does imply "staffer," but as you can see from the Daily Kos excerpt, she's also widely refered to as Scarborough's "intern."

snip

"According to her obituary in the Fort Walton Daily News, Lori had served as President and, later, Treasurer, for the Emerald Coast Young Republicans and as a aide to Congressman Scarborough, she was active during the Florida recounts."

snip

She was a direct report of Scarborough's, regardless of her title.

The people who do not believe that he played a direct role in her death are the same people who believe that George W. Bush honorably met his obligations to the National Guard.

:toast:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:54 AM
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12. She's widely referred to as "intern", but it's erroneous
It's erroneous which is why I try to correct it where possible. Denis Wright who co-wrote the article I linked is a friend of mine and we followed the story right as it was happening. Lori Klausutis was an aide in Scarborough's FL office, a paid staffer, not an intern. Denis posts here occasionally, if you'd like to know more we could get ahold of him. He also had a story published about this in Hustler.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:09 PM
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16. It might be worth having him do a post for the new people here...
This subject comes up frequently on DU, and if he were willing to take the time to do a post, it could bring everyone up to speed with the accurate details of the story.

:toast:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:25 PM
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18. I can't acess my email right now but I asked another DUer
to contact him - Zan of Texas - if she's around she'll get the message to Denis.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:31 AM
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8. Actually, Joe
you only know how to scratch the surface and reach a superficial reaction from middle america. Given the world of hurt put onto much of middle america by your folks... give it a few years... and the right populist message that goes straight to that hurt - with a vision of America living up to its potential and promises (see most folks do actually believe in the social contract... heck your boy played that hard with the expansion of govt per medicare)... and your message will pale.

Keep your ego in check boy... and we don't want or need to hire you.

I do find it interesting, though, that you have been increasingly critical of your Boy... and this would suggest that along with a gratuitous slap at democrats... that you are seeking a viable alternative to the monster being created in the form of the GOP?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:32 AM
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9. The DLC controls most of the levers of power within the Democratic Party
and, imho, they've no interest in middle America. The DLC's interest is big buisness, not middle America.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:37 AM
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11. Notice what the GOP DIDN'T do in middle america
this election cycle. They didn't play up the pander to big business as a means for holding onto jobs and improving the lives of local. That tired meme is no longer selling (the dlc just doesn't yet recognize it). They went for fear... terrorism and gay marriage. Didn't hear nearly anything else here in hoosier middle america. Oh, ya, except one repub congressman(use the tactical nuke in afghanistan buyer) pushed hard on his ability to deliver relief to seniors on prescription drugs .. again not a probusiness message but an attempted (sheeps clothing) benefit to the people message...

dlc hasn't figured out that some of their message is no longer even being used by the GOP...
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vickie Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:03 PM
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14. This sanctimonious, beady-eyed peckerwood makes me sick.
Why hasn't he been called to account for the dead intern in found in his congressional office?
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:06 PM
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15. I believe he meant to say...
Republicans lie to middle America-national dems don't! Now that's something to brag about! Ughh!!!
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:18 PM
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17. Like I care what an intern-killer says....
Up yours Joe....you hypocrite...
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:26 PM
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19. Love his fast and loose use of words.
This one is a gem: "The Democrats’ unchecked dominance led to tax hikes and Hillary healthcare"

(1) Thank's to BC's fiscal responsibility, we had a 1/2 Trillion dollar surplus that Bush turned into a 1/2 Trillion dollar deficit in 4 years.

(2) Hillary Healthcare never happened....and we lost a golden opportunity to provide healthcare for all. Instead, we get a busted healthcare system designed to clean out/bankrupt the middleclass....talk about a death tax, that's exactly what the Republican has delivered to 90% of Americans.

Sorry Joe, your revisionist fairy tale is baloney. Stop rigging the elections and then we'll see which Party represents middle-class America.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:55 PM
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20. I have to agree with him on part of this:
That’s because Republicans understand middle America - national Democrats don’t.

I think it is true that the current *leadership* of our party *is* out of touch. But then I am sure I diverge from his thinking. The real democratic themes of inclusion, equality, fairness, living wage, etc .... the values *we* hold near and dear ..... are the winning formula. We need now to run *towards* those values and not away from them.

If I could see, in a wild dream, were he and Mehlman and Gillespie to suddenly become "neolibs" they might get us back into power if for no other reason than their lack of scruples.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:37 PM
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21. 57,000,000 actual voters + millions of denied voters are dismissed again!
Only a fool would consider a force of 57,000,000 determined voters and an equally substantial lot of disenfranchised voters, who will ultimately get their day at the ballot, to believe in a dead philosophical purpose.

Being right has hereby been purposefully confused with having might. It is clearly the Republican lexicon dialect that is used in order to perpetuate such dishonesty in American mainstream media.

"That’s because Republicans understand **>added> ...how to manipulate, dominate, and control the electoral process in ... <added<** middle America - national Democrats don’t."
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 02:22 PM
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22. Uh...Joe, we listened to Peter Beinhardt and we LOST twice now!!!
The DLC should go the way of the Nazi Party!

Oh...and when will you tell us how you murdered Lori Klaustis?

:eyes:
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NE1469 Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 04:06 PM
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23. Kick!
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