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jswordy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:47 AM
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There is a troubling thought about Cheney....
...that keeps coming up in my mind. Let's see what you all think:

Say Cheney DIES in office between now and '08 (especially between now and '06). Bush names Bill Frist as veep. Frist then runs as the next in line successor to DUHbya.

I mean, Frist is gonna run for prez next shot out anyway. That would give him a leg up on the race, as he could say he is the experienced candidate.

Kick it around. Likely? Not? What are your thoughts?
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jimquilty Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:50 AM
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1. how can
the undead (Cheney) die more than once?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:50 AM
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2. don't know if he'll die, but i fully expect him to leave office due to
health at some point in the next couple years

and the new designee for the BFEE will be put in office as you suggest
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:50 AM
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3. I fully expect Cheney to leave before '08.
Not having a Veep to groom for that race puts the Repukes at a disadvantage. Don't know if it will be Frist, but the party will pick their best shot to replace Crashcart.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:51 AM
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4. I had a similar thought
Relayed it to my husband a couple of weeks ago. My thought it that right after the 2006 midterm elections, Cheney will step down, using his health as the reason. Bush will put up his successor and Jeb Bush will be the running mate.

These kinds of thoughts keep me awake at night.

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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:51 AM
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5. I think that Frist would be the likely pick
which is scary because Frist is a whack job.
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jswordy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:05 PM
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9. I'M WITH YOU!
ROFLMAO! "Whack job" says it all!

Hmmm....I never though about Cheney resigning. Jeez...more nightmares ahead!
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:17 PM
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13. Cheney won't last too much longer
He'll continue to pull the strings but he might have to resign to spend more time with his family. LOL.

Frist has gone over to the dark side more and more over the years. He is a whack job!!! :)
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jswordy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:26 PM
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19. Just keep right on saying....

WHACK JOB!



ROFLMFAO!!!!

If our party had any cajones, in the '07 elex battle they'd run anti-Frist ads with his mug, a dead cat and the words WHACK JOB in block letters at the top.

ROFL!
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:49 PM
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27. I'll pay to support that ad!
'Cause he is a WHACK JOB!!!
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:11 PM
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11. Frist-DeLay. The GOP DreamTeam
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:18 PM
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14. It's enough to make you puke, isn't it?
They are both true fundies through and through.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 03:09 PM
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39. As brazen as they've become...
it wouldn't be surprising if he named Jeb.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:53 AM
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6. I am sure you are correct in at least about replacing dickless
I am sure they will put the successor to the chimp in VP office before the 08 election season rolls around.
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jackster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:53 AM
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7. jebby's outa work in 06...
my money's on him.... don't care what the lying sob says. who's ever heard of a bush telling the truth anyway?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:02 PM
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8. If it's Frist
and we DON'T run "cat killer" ads, we deserve to lose.

It'd be as bad as being an abortion doctor.

Running an MD against an MD might be a complete hoot. Dean vs Frist.... I'd PAY to watch that.

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jswordy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:14 PM
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12. ME TOO
I'd pay to see Dean vs. Frist in a no-holds-barred cage match.

Toss 'em national healthcare, and let the fight begin!

;-)

But alas, I rarely get the matchups I would prefer to see.

:shrug:
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:19 PM
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15. Dean would tear Frist up!
Frist is soft. He doesn't have what it takes to stand up against Dean - who is a former wrestler, right?
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jswordy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:27 PM
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Yeah, Dean is a former wrestler!
Maybe we can get him a costume from Vince McMahon, make it a WWE kinda deal!

LOL
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:29 PM
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22. They'd need stage names...
...any suggestions?
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:47 PM
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25. Cat Killer for Frist, of course
Can't think of one for Dean. I'll bet some of the Deaniacs could come up with something cool.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:17 PM
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31. Howard the Doc?
Edited on Thu Dec-30-04 01:17 PM by XemaSab
:D
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:23 PM
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33. Ha! Ha! I just got that!
How about Doctor of Democracy? He could wear red, white and blue pants and he could have the Declaration of Independence on his cape!
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:01 PM
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43. the Screamer!
since the media made such a mountain out of that molehill
(while making molehills out of mountains - like our justfication for going into Iraq turning out to be false)
we should take it with pride. Yes, Dean is a wild man!
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:48 PM
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26. Whooooooooooooooooo yeah!!!
I'm SO there for that matchup!
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lawladyprof Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:35 PM
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35. I vote we organize the Kitty Cats for Truth 527
N/T
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 05:03 PM
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40. Here's the ad:
Edited on Thu Dec-30-04 05:06 PM by XemaSab
(Pictures of kittens in animal shelters, scary, ominous cello music)

(Voiceover...weedy, scratchy, nebbishy tenor voice)

"It was, of course, a heinous and dishonest thing to do. And I was totally schizoid about the entire matter. By day, I was little Billy Frist, the boy who lived on Bowling Avenue in Nashville and had decided to become a doctor because of his gentle father and a dog named Scratchy. By night, I was Dr. William Harrison Frist, future cardiothoracic surgeon, who was not going to let a few sentiments about cute, furry little creatures stand in the way of his career.

(Cut to ominous shots of latex-glove-clad hands holding a scalpel, scary ominous cello music gets scarier and more ominous)

"In short, I was going a little crazy."

"I spent days and nights on end in the lab, taking the hearts out of cats, dissecting each heart."

"As I watched the little strip of muscle beat hour after hour through the night in the basement of the hospital, I felt quite pure...."

(Cut back to kittens in animal shelter, cello music gets VERY scary and ominous)

"(But then) I lost my supply of cats. I only had six weeks to complete my project before I resumed my clinical rotations. Desperate, obsessed with my work, I visited the various animal shelters in the Boston suburbs, collecting cats .... "

(Cello music gets very sad)

(Different, strong basso voiceover)

(Back to the kittens in the shelter)

"Collecting cats"? What this euphemism elides over is that Mr. Frist apparently posed as someone who wanted to adopt kittens and strays. He asked the shelter people to trust him, he asked the poor shivering creatures in their cages to trust him, and then he "carted them off to the lab to die."

(Close up of a cute, frail kitten mewing silently)

He took them home, "treating them as pets for a few days," before taking them to the lab to cut them open.

(Kitten snuggling, then kitten gets spooked and runs away)

Treated "them as pets for a few days" before "carting them off to the lab to die." It's hard to imagine those few days: the way he briefly builds a relationship of trust with the trusting little creatures, gets to know them as pets. Lets them, at last, begin to feel safe and loved after a hard life on the mean streets. (Does he give them names before he kills them?) One tries to conjure up the scenes of domestic closeness between the young Dr. Jekyll and his little charges. And then the day arrives when the cat carrier comes out again, and the furry little creature begins to suspect what's in store.

(Voiceover repeats)

He treated "them as pets for a few days" before "carting them off to the lab to die."

Please, vote against Bill Frist on November 2nd. Do it for the kittens.

(Closeup of different tiny, frail kitten mewing, with sound)


Text liberally ganked/gaffled/excerpted/plagiarized from this article:
http://nyobserver.com/pages/story.asp?ID=6814




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lawladyprof Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 05:12 PM
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41. Very good!!! Applause all round
Maybe we could find the shelters he "adopted" his kitties from and get an interview.
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Danocrat Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:09 PM
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10. They'll keep it in the family
He'll appoint Jeb as VP
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:20 PM
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16. Sadly, you're probably right
Crap. We would be royally screwed then.
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x_y_no Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:21 PM
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17. Or Jeb
Edited on Thu Dec-30-04 12:21 PM by x_y_no
nt

Edit: Sorry, didn't see Danocrat beat me to it. :-)
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:22 PM
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18. Time to get working on "Cats for Truth" attack ads
:evilgrin:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 02:18 PM
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37. Yep: TWO WORDS--CAT KILLER
All you'd have to do is run a MEOW MIX style ad and that guy would IMPLODE. He has the job because, despite his fancy medical degree, he is a simpleton in all other areas, and he is OBEDIENT. Not an original thinker, by any stretch.

I think Bush would appoint Lynne Cheney to succeed Dick if he bit the bullet. Hell, she works up most of the policy issues now anyway, with her cohorts over at Heritage. Easier to put her on the payroll for true, and claim the FIRST FEMALE VP award at the same time.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:27 PM
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20. Frist? Bush wants to be upstaged?
I think not. His ego wants someone to be fairly innocuous in terms of the public eye. Remember went cheney went into hiding? Because he did the "I was in control, don't worry!" when bush went bunnyhopping around during the 911 crisis. Reports of a very angry rove/bush crew.... made bush look small and weak.

No they would chose a quiet team player. Maybe Hasstert... Leaving DeLay as Speaker (yikes!)
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:28 PM
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21. I highly doubt Cheney goes anywhere.
1. He's greedy.
2. He has a huge sense of entitlement--it's his due.
3. He's a micromanager and control freak.
4. He's had to suck up to too many people to get where he is and, by George, he's not budging.
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jswordy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:30 PM
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23. Uh, I don't think he can control...
...when he

CROAKS

though.

Even if he is an evil warlock!
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:30 PM
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24. He's not gonna croak.
He can afford health care. We'll croak first.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:57 PM
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28. Far, far, far more likely ...... Cheney resigns to be with his family
or whatever ..... and they appoint into his slot whoever they want to run in 08. I'm not sure at all that it will be Frist. I think even *they* have to see that Frist is so reptilian that NO one could cover that up as they've covered *'s flaws.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:05 PM
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29. I've been saying that for a long time.
Oh, wait... I've been sayin' it to you. :P
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:14 PM
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30. every thought about Cheney is troubling
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Serial Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:18 PM
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32. Almost what I thought months ago
- thought UncaDick would step down do to health reasons within 2 years and have the pukes pick their new "wonder boy" frist for the job (if that is who KKKarl wants).

I bet my husband on this one.
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Comicstripper Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:32 PM
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34. Very possible
Frist is being groomed as Bush's heir apparent. He combines conservatism with a certain nauseating personality that fits Bush quite nicely. Following Giuliani's appointment as Homeland Security Head, expect this cabinet change.
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jswordy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:57 PM
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36. And Frist is a formidable political opponent...
...just looky here from his bio...

First elected to the U.S. Senate on November 8, 1994, Dr. Frist was the only challenger to defeat a full-term incumbent in 1994 and the first practicing physician elected to the Senate since 1928. A fourth generation Tennessean whose great, great grandfather was one of Chattanooga's 53 original settlers, Dr. Frist is the 54th U.S. Senator from Tennessee. On November 7, 2000, Bill Frist was elected to a second term in the United States Senate by the largest vote total ever received by a candidate for statewide election in the history of Tennessee.

Frist is not running for the Senate again, so it's president, veep or nothing.

I can't see Bush naming Jeb...even among the Reopublicans, that would have to appear too like a royal family.

Man, a Frist-Dean matchup would be really fun to watch. Really fun!

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 02:20 PM
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38. I see Frist going on to make a fortune
...selling heart devices for a major medical manufacturing company. Who knows, maybe he's testing them out on weecowboy even as we speak?????
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ThorsHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 05:36 PM
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42. I don't think he'll die, but will resign
He's already had one health problem, and this gives him a good cover to leave and let them put in their 2008 candidate while still saving face.
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