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nascarblue (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:26 AM Original message |
Tsunami Military Op? Why? |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
1. War is peace |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'm not sure that's all that suspicious. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
3. Actually, because they're the best equipped to do it quickly |
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CatholicEdHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 12:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. Exactly |
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zann725 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
61. It would also be conceivable to "create" a disaster in order to send |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 03:45 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Our military do not involve themselves |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 05:15 PM Response to Reply #63 |
87. Hear! Hear! |
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Florida_Geek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
4. gee |
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Streetdoc270 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:39 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. not really |
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Florida_Geek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:44 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Lincoln carrier strike group has 12 helicopters (only 12) |
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Streetdoc270 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 03:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
86. Its been a no-win scenerio here.... |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:47 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. And... |
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NJCher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
5. I heard one leader/survivor calling for it |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
7. I agree with the others who say.. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 08:18 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. There's a retired general who has exactly the experience needed |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 08:40 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. No, he won't be... |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 01:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. May is just say, eloquently say, "ditto"? n/t |
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Oversea Visitor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
10. seriously |
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Wilber_Stool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
11. The military is used to moving large amount of cargo |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
12. come on guys ... paranoia strikes deep; into your life it will creep. |
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PaulaFarrell (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
37. that song's been in my head a lot lately n/t |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. these days, it's hard NOT to have it playing in your head, eh? |
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PaulaFarrell (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:44 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. no, I missed that |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. just saying they covered it, too. |
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itzamirakul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
13. They ought to take the troops out of Iraq and |
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MileHiStealth (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
50. I've seen "Iraqi Resistance" bandered about lately .. |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 12:36 AM Response to Reply #13 |
60. Insurgents is |
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jmatthan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
15. Method used to determine tsunamis is useful |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
17. What if another country, like China or Russia, sent its military in? |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 12:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. THe simple answer to this is that the military REALLY is the best way |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 03:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
34. I would suggest to you that we are "such a militarily focused country"... |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #34 |
83. Keeping Peace or reaping profits through someones devastation and tragedy? |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
19. Well, one of my biggest concerns with this has been that supplies |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 01:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. All the more reason to use the military |
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blackangrydem (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
20. Because the military receives a mission and carries it out |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
22. When all you know how to use is a hammer,... |
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Contrary1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
25. Because the US has to be in charge of EVERYTHING!... n/t |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Whhhommmp, there it is! n/t |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
26. Mu answer is contained in post 7 but my emphasis is bolded here |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
28. Some Al Qaeda strongholds in Indonesia and LOTS of oil, gold and copper |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
29. Why? Because that's the only way to get anything done... |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. UN has the trust and the organizational structure: |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Sorry! I much prefer to have our military on my side than the UN... |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 04:51 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Anti-Christian? |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 10:24 PM Response to Reply #35 |
52. " UN oil for food program has recently been cleared of wrong doing." ??? |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #52 |
76. At least there is an investigation into potential wrongdoing. |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 12:19 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. The UN is outside anybody's law and is as corrupt as it gets. |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 12:58 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. You don't know much about the US DOD then. |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Well you're mistaken about that. |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 10:38 PM Response to Reply #36 |
54. The fact remains that we are the only military that can act rapidly... |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 10:40 AM Response to Reply #54 |
69. Things have changed since the earthquake. |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 11:21 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Please explain what the VA has to do with our military relief ability |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 11:54 AM Response to Reply #72 |
75. That would go to recruitment, funding and morality. |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 12:22 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. The regular military has no recruitment problems... |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 12:54 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. The only reason recruitment goals were achieved is |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 01:30 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. When our military crashes, we'll just call the UN! Hope that suits you |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. What would suit me is responsible leadership with |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. There is no way you will change my mind in regard to US or UN... |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 03:15 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. You are sadly mistaken about the likelihood of |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. UN is best at humanitarian relief |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
46. Just which emergencies would you be talking about... |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 11:00 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. How about the Iranian earthquake for openers... |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 11:58 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Well, that's just too bad... |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
30. Like clockwork, the military haters turn up |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:32 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Really? Would you care to link to those thread |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. No, I don't have a link. |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:23 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Huge difference |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Yes, it was a huge difference. |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 08:15 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. There are no threads at DU reflecting |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 08:37 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. I think you should ratchet down the tone |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:51 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Sorry Tom. I know Leilani is a good poster/person |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 11:45 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. The Left and America's Military is a good topic for ongoing discussion |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 12:17 AM Response to Reply #48 |
59. Absolutely nothing wrong with her tone |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 09:32 AM Response to Reply #48 |
67. Thanks so very much Tom, for your gallant intervention. |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 09:10 AM Response to Reply #47 |
66. I did not connect DU & Clinton's mission to Haiti |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 11:23 AM Response to Reply #31 |
73. Try Post #58 for openers |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 09:09 AM Response to Reply #30 |
65. Do you trust Bush to use the military to do good in the world? |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 09:36 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. No, I don't trust Bush about ANYTHING. |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 11:19 AM Response to Reply #30 |
71. Yes they are. Try Post # 58 who prefers the UN to US military. |
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DrGonzoLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
42. Well, OBVIOUSLY |
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KSAtheist (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
49. Hey |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 10:24 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Is that right? |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 10:41 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. CIA said that OBL was probably... |
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RafterMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 03:29 AM Response to Reply #55 |
62. When did the CIA say this? |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 03:56 AM Response to Reply #55 |
64. Indonesia is far larger than the tsunami affected areas |
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FULL_METAL_HAT (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
70. I had my hat ready thinking you were talking about the CAUSE of the quake |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
74. Actually, this is what they need to be doing |
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American Tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
88. It sounds like a reasonable decision to me. |
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