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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:07 AM
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Is this the year we get to see Chimpy go DOWN?
Will we get to see this asswipe get what he deserves or will it be ANOTHER year of free passes and nothing but goodness for this evil mis-administration? One can only hope they are made to suffer for stealing ANOTHER election and pushing their far rightwingnut agenda down our throats. :nuke:
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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:09 AM
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1. Lets HOPE so
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:10 AM
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2. no
but your optimism is admirable.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:18 AM
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5. Agreed.
Bush re-defines the term "Teflon Don." Nothing will stick to him over the next four years. I anticipate that members of his administration will go down in flames, but Bush will continue to smirk, swagger, mispronounce words and take L-O-N-G and frequent vacations at the Crawford Pig Farm (in addition to running home to the mommy who will never love him).
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:14 AM
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3. yes and more than that a lamb duck Pres.
No matter how much money his friends put in ads for SS, AARP and others will be countering and the Repugs in Congress know 2006 election could unseat their majority.

Add to that a hit on the US by bin Laden and you have people feeling unsafe and not feeling good about *.

Just IMHO.

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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:17 AM
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4. I wish I could think so
The corruption is so deeply rooted now that it would take a huge paradigm shift before anything noticeable happens. If the impossible were to happen and * is to somehow get fed to the lions he'll float happily away on his golden parachute the size of Nebraska. In the aftermath we've got our Dicks, Jebs, Ricks, and Arnolds ready to step in and continue the fine human tradition of rewarding pure evil.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:20 AM
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6. No
He's been able to evade responsibility thus far...don't see things changing anytime soon.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:23 AM
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7. this year we will see a
Edited on Sat Jan-01-05 11:29 AM by madrchsod
rapid decline in his physical and mental condition. we will see less and less of him in public and when he goes public it will be controlled far more than it is now. by 2006 he maybe to ill to be seen in any public venue unless it is completely controlled.
the public never knew how sick fdr and jfk were, yet their saving grace was their intelligence and the people around them . they shielded the two from the public. now we realize just how great these two were to lead this country thru difficult times with such terrible physical pain.
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:29 AM
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8. My gut says no, but we can still dream.
The blinders worn by so many Americans are on so tight, and the apathy of so many others is so severe, I have trouble imagining a situation that would wake up enough people to do much good. But perhaps that's just my reaction in the wake of 2004's stolen election. My optimism and hope were high, and I was very disappointed in the outcome. Perhaps I'm just setting my expectations low, so that if I am wrong again (and I seem to be wrong often!), I might end up being pleasantly surprised!

Who knows? Having a lame-duck president with an assumed mandate who believes he is doing far better than he really is might just be the perfect combination to turn things around. Right now I doubt it, and I'll believe it when I see it, but here's hoping I'm wrong again!
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:38 AM
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10. My gut says yeah, and at 300 pounds its bigger than yours
So there!

I think he is already toast and once the GOPukes realise they have another election coming up in 2 years (tomorrow in political terms) their majority status is going to look a lot like an albatross around their necks. If Bush's stuff goes through, especially the SS fuckup, there will be no place to run and no place to hide.

Combine that with a continued bloodletting in the Middle East and we may actually be seeing the beginning of the end of the Republican party as we know it.

They had their shot and they fucked it up. No one to blame but themselves.

God knows the Democrats made it easy for them.
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:14 PM
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21. LOL! I guess your optimism "outweighs" my pessimism!
Thanks for the uplift, I hope you're right. I love the scenarios you describe, and hope they come to be.

May I get to hear "I told you so," a thousand times this year!
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:39 AM
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11. Hey!!
I'm in Knoxville, too!

:hi:

Watching the game?
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:16 PM
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22. Hey, Clark2008!
I did get to see it, in fact got off line to watch, and just now getting a few free minutes to get back on.

Great game, and a great way to end up the season!
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LiberalCat Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:36 AM
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9. Nixon was taken down for a lot less, but
his buddies didn't own the media.

There is no end in sight. I'm sure they're priming jebbie for 2008. What a waste of a good country.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:43 AM
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12. No, we'll get lots and lots of flag imagery on all the cable shows
Edited on Sat Jan-01-05 11:44 AM by hatrack
You know, the shiny glittering flapping flag images that are so darned beautiful! They'll set off carefully scripted and digitally edited snippets of Bush sounding "strong" and "focused" while the Hos catch their collective breath every 15 seconds, reminding us of just how "strong" and "focused" he sounded.

Footage of soldiers tossing candy to smiling Iraqi children comes next, and then some interviews with Pentagon press officers. Maybe if there's a car-bombing or two we might view a second or two of billowing black smoke, but otherwise we'll watch Freedom On The March (with occasional acknowledgments that it's hard work!).

Then we'll quickly cut away to scenes of happy, happy brokers on Wall Street as big shiny arrows point always up and to the right on big shiny graphs. Following the business segment, a few minutes of Michael Jackson and Robert Blake's trials, the lastest sports-related fistfights, all wrapped up with plenty of information on new consumer good which we must, Must, MUST go out and buy, RIGHT NOW.

I wish I had your optimism, but I don't see reality penetrating the Prozac-Infotainment Maginot Line any time soon.
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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 12:51 PM
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15. Wow
Hatrack, you've nailed it. As the cartoon posted earlier said, I hope I'm proven embarassingly wrong, but...
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whalerider55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:57 AM
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13. No
Bush doesn't go down.
He needs to be taken down by a principled, tenacious, creative, risk-taking grass roots campaign.

Any of those words describe the Democratic Party and it's leadership on January 1, 2005?

Jackson and Dean exempted. There might be another one of two out there.

whalerider55
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biscotti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 12:05 PM
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14. Maybe
If they start eating their own. There are rumblings among the GOP. They do not like the tone of the neocons. Perhaps Powell will try to clean up his image and restore his former stellar appearance in the eye of the public. Tarnished as it really is.
Buchanan last night on McLaughlin predicted that W* is going down in 05. He said by the end of the year, him and his administration will be plagued in scandals. Sounds like something might start sticking.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 12:59 PM
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16. AAR the wild card factor: one drop of truth ends an ocean of lies
Edited on Sat Jan-01-05 01:03 PM by oscar111
to hear the truth spoken, is highly effective.

add AAR to your will: printout flyers with its online url for those in areas not yet on air: urge DNC and aflcio to subsidize it.

take out one line ads for it in the alternative weekly papers.. give frequency and url

to hear enthusiastic support of dem ideas, instead of the defensive mumbles so common, is persuasive. AAR provides that.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:54 PM
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24. I cannot help but think that the Republicans have been acting as
their own opposition party lately.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 01:21 PM
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17. I'm going to swim against this (understandably) demoralized sounding tide
Edited on Sat Jan-01-05 01:25 PM by Husb2Sparkly
and say YES.

I don't think we'll see him go down for the count, but I do think we'll see him in a shit storm. If you think about it, he's got nothing to offer other than more of the same.

Social Security will not change even though he's going to try. I think there will be too many scared republicans in Congress who worry about their own sorry asses and not his agenda. After that crap with prescription drugs (which ultimately went over like a lead balloon) even AARP is against him.

Iraq will continue to devolve into total chaos with more blood spilled and nothing to show for it. Think Vietnam, but on an accellerated schedule. "Saigon" will fall this year. The end of any support for him is soon after that.

The financial stuff isn't going to be much better. The stock market will bouy him a bit, but the dollar will continue to decline. The deficit will continue upward and people will finally start to "get it".

I even think the punditocracy will start to be more vocal in their criticism.

All this is made possible by his lame duck status. There's nothing anyone gains from him anymore.

And for some delicious side shows ...... the Plame incident will get some coverage and some resolution. Someone in Cheney's office will lose their balls over it. There will be at least one indictment for election fraud in Ohio (watch yer ass, Blackwell). The Democrats will not move further right.

And looking forward ... Jeb won't run .... or at least he won't win their nomination. The Reagan Democrats will start coming home. It will start as a trickle in 05 and 06, but will be a real movement by 07 and 08.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 01:34 PM
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18. He won't go down for election fraud, but I think he'll go down, period, by
next year when hands-on evidence is finally discovered which cements him as being the corrupt criminal bastard we all suspected he was. I think some brave new investigative reporter right now is working behind the scenes somewhere digging up the evidence. It's just a matter of time.

My prediction: To avoid impeachment or going to prison, Bush will resign before the end of 2006.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 01:45 PM
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19. I think he'll be taken from office (kicking & screaming) by end of '05.
There was a famous psychic whose prediction on one of these threads said that by the beginning of '06, Bush would NO LONGER be connected with 'any power.'

Same psychic also predicted he was going to have some serious health problems in '05. (Maybe his ticker?)
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KnowerOfLogic Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 04:01 PM
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20. Chimpy's not going anywhere until dems, both rank and file and
in the leadership, get a backbone and start caring.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:29 PM
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23. CIA, FBI, DOD
The rank and file of these orgs. loath Bush, Cheny and Rumsfailed. It wouldn't surprise me if all three were in some sort of "accident" either together or seperately.
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:02 PM
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25. With the Repugs are in control of......
both houses of Congress, the WH and very soon the Supreme Court, how can we even think the Chimp will 'go down'? And with them also in control of MSM, there is a snowballs chance in hell of anyone bringing them down.
It's gonna be a heartbreaker for America for the next few years.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:07 PM
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26. Pickles is that you?
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Annus Horribilis Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:12 PM
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27. No
2004 was.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:15 PM
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28. I'm sure the s#it will hit the fan eventaully, but with completely Repug
Congress and SC, we're not likely to see any action to remove them from office.

I can't imagine a scenario in which impeachment proceedings would begin. They'll give him a free pass on anything, whether it's personal or political. It'd have to be something huge, something that, if ignored, could put Republican reelection efforts in jeopardy, and I don't see that happening.

I'm sure his approval rating will plummet as he continues to kill the country and as new scandals come to light, but I don't think we'll see any legal action.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:40 PM
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29. that bastard has been getting a free pass every year of his miserable life
don't see why this year would be any different
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 01:05 AM
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30. On who?
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