They have control. Evangelicals now threatening Senators.

[montana500]

Once you lose the media, you are done.

We now have evangelical's from Colorado threatening 6 dem Senators. And once neutral zones like Meet the Press are now blazingly right wing.

We have zero ability to get our talking points out , or our message. No cable news channel. No radio stations.

Anything we say is like spitting into a fan.

As the billionaire "leaders" of the dem party (soros, speilberg, Turner) put their tails between their legs and run, we are left in a sea of corporate greed media, with no end in sight.

[amber dog democrat]

1. I wonder how far this will go

but i am afraid to find out. i keep thinking eventually something will restore balance.
No idea what that will be.

[SodoffBush]

2. probably a man-made disaster

which the US appears rapidly headed for, as was Germany in the '40s.

[amber dog democrat]

8. Well the sooner the Gotterdamerung ( sp ) happens

the better for us AND the world. I am refrerring to the Twilight of the Gods by
Wagner. I pray it does not come to this.

[SodoffBush]

10. Most on this board have tried to make it otherwise

done all they could...

[SodoffBush]

3. Do you have a link?

I'd like to check it out.

[bobbieinok]

5. no link, but remember it was Dobson of Focus on the Family

[Mist]

11. I think Dobson's blowing smoke

Corporate America doesn't want to be inconvenienced by these K-Mart Savonarolas. They're useful for keeping the sheeple in line, but when religion comes up against money, money wins. Corporate America owns the politicians, and they intend the pols to stay bought. The resulting fireworks should be interesting, though...

[hatrack]

14. K-Mart Savonarolas! ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks, lulu, that made my morning! :toast:

[Mist]

15. Thanks for the toast!

They're like Savonarola in their condemnation of well, everything, but I've always thought there's something so cheap and nasty about alot of our "evangelicals" that the K-Mart bit comes to mind. Actually, I've shopped at K-Mart a few times, not a totally awful place. Should I update and call them "Wal-Mart Savonarolas"?

[JunkYardDogg]

16. Savonarolas HUH

Not many people know who that was
unless you were into Michelangelo
I'm impressed

[Racenut20]

4. Already working for Nelson (FL. He is one of the targets.

As well as the RWingnuts (Jeb/Katherine) who were already started.

[HereSince1628]

6. Evangelicals, modeling BushRove, claim control

It doesn't mean that they really have it.

I suspect that before too very long, they will come into conflict with the administation.

I would assign a high probability that it will be over I/P issues, but corporate-interests and a resurrected moral majority will also be on a collision course.

[tom_paine]

7. Don't forget the New Censorship. Any commercial which "steps out of line"

in being critical of the Imperial Family or the AmeriTaliban will summarily and instantly be rejected be even the supposedly Liberal Media (what a laughable and Orwellian joke that has become)

So, it is not even possible to get the message out EVEN using the paid airwaves.

Quite insane and Soviet (SUViet, you might say -- I heard that one somewhere).

The Democratic Leadership who STILL cannot understand nor believe that they are under a multi-decade assault by a revolutionary cabal, have blown their chance to take a real swing.

Now the whole corrupted and virtualized "system" is tilted in such a fashion as to make ANY return to journalistic ethics imposible.

Too late. Now it's too late for anything.

And after the NEXT "terrorist" attack, which is probably coming soon, the final end of the transformation will begin to take shape.

[cyn2]

9. Can you say "hubris"? n/t

[Brundle_Fly]

12. POP WILL EAT ITSELF.

the right wing is going to self implode.

[merbex]

13. Could we correct this to say that Christian Fundamentalists

are now threatening Senators

This group wants to be identified as evangelicals; Jimmy Carter is an evagelical

These people are the Christian fundamentalist/taliban

I'm trying to frame them correctly - we all should

[renaissanceguy]

17. Good point.

The wingnuts just want to make it seem like they are in the majority (i.e. have bigger numbers). They're a small, but powerful group. We have to stop them.

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.14744896

[David Ippolito]

18. Jesusland

This is the first rough lyric... but, it's getting close to being frozen. As soon as me and the boys have the track down, I'm gonna make it available as another free download for a while... like "Get Out Our House" was before the election.

Then, this song'll go to itunes.

(The Intro: is slow and rubato... but, in a real story-tellin', country music style. Then, from the first chorus on, the groove kicks into a two beat, country, sh*t kickin' song.)

******
.
JESUSLAND
©2005

INTRO:
I'm a new breed of American with quite a lot t'say
As patriotic and religious as y'get.
I'm a brand new kinda Christian, in the good ol' USA
And, ya don't know whut t'make of me quite yet.
You liberal folks are jes too analytical.
Yer called the "intellectual elite".
Ya like to use big words like "hypocritical"
Jes becuz my words and actions hardly meet.

(Spoken)
Well...

CHORUS:
Welcome to Jesusland
We made George Bush the president, so now we can command
That the people in this country live exactly how we planned.
Welcome to Jesusland

VERSE:
Jus look on any dollar bill, it says, "In God we Trust"
So, we ask his help in everythin' we do.
You talk 'bout Freedom of Religion. Reckon that means that we must
Tolerate the atheist and Jew.
But, Jesus is the man, and our salvation.
And, every war we wage is in his name.
We think his Bible should be taught in every nation,
And, we'll bomb anyone who doesn't feel the same.

CHORUS:
Welcome to Jesusland
Where we all love our neighbor,
IF our neighbors understand,
We won't let no goddamed Mexicans across the Rio Grande.
Welcome to Jesusland

VERSE:
George W's a married man, and Laura is his wife,
Of their family values and beliefs we sing.
They're against a woman's right to choose, becuz they're both "PRO Life"
'Course, an execution.... wellllll, that's a 'nuther thing.
George goes to church where he sings from a hymnal,
How Jesus will protect us ALL from harm.
Unless you're a convicted death row crim'nal
Then, I guess he'd stick a needle in yer arm.

Welcome to Jesusland
Where God on high says, "Try to pry... this rifle from my hand."
The Prince of Peace don't want my AK-47 to be banned.
Welcome to Jesusland

Rush Limbaugh is the people's voice, cuz we sure like to listen
To a moral and a real straight-talkin' guy,
Who says crack-smokin' addicts... should all go straight to prison.
We don't care that when he said it he was high.
O'Reilly is another moral beacon.
This married man with no "spin" in his zone.
He's always right... po-li-tickly speakin'
Once he's finished talkin' dirty on the phone.

CHORUS:
Welcome to Jesusland
Where we find the Lord in every Walmart, Sears and Disneyland
And, while some may turn the other cheek, we draw lines in the sand.
Welcome to Jesusland

In Jesusland... everyone knows better
It's not a place you liberal folks can find.
It's not a state that's red... or even redder.
Jesusland is just a state of mind!
.
(Big finish)

Jesusland is here to stay!
Don't judge by the way we live, jes live by what we say.
It's Jesus' will to build a neo-Christian U... S... A...
Welcome to Jesuland.

Welcome to Je--sus--laaaaaannnnnnd.
*********
See you at:

http://www.thatguitarman.com

I'll have this song in the can soon, and available for a free download.

David

[knight_of_the_star]

19. For those who know Norse mythology

I have one word:

Ragnarok

The Jotuun Brood has come.

The Horn of Heimdall has been sounded.

The Host of Valhalla gathers for war.

We may go down, but I resolve that I, for one, will go down SWINGING.

[montieg]

20. "Fundamentalists!!"

Please don't interchange (as they want us to) the terms evangelical with fundamentalist. This is another example of their reframing to obfuscate the truth. Yes, there is the ,"Not all fundamentalists are evangelicals..." But the radical right knows that 'fundamentalist' connotes to shi'ite while evangelical has a much 'softer' connotation. So don't play into their game--call 'em what they are: 'fundamentalists'!