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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:45 AM
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My Choices For The 08 Ticket, John Edwards & Harold Ford.
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 12:46 AM by norml
I've avoided speculation threads, because there is so much to be done here, and now, however... John Edwards for President! Harold Ford for Vice President! What do you think? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Edwards http://www.house.gov/ford/
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:47 AM
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1. Bill Moyers and Sheila Jackson Lee
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:48 AM
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2. not a bad ticket
in terms of electability.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:49 AM
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3. Not a great ticket
In terms of electablity.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:53 AM
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4. Both Electable and Respectable!
What's not to like about both of these guys? I know they aren't favorites that I hear much talk about, but I think they both handle themselves, and the issues very well.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:58 AM
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5. What will Edwards do the next four years
to get some experience to help qualify him for the presidency?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 01:01 AM
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6. he is going to continue doing public service type work
maybe teach, travel around the country meeting with people to discuss things, etc.

but they said whatever he does will be in the public service type area.and he will not go into private law or business.

for now he is mostly focused on helping his wife get through the breast cancer treatment.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 01:04 AM
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9. He'll need to speak up often, and to lead.
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 01:06 AM by norml
That will be enough to qualify him for the Presidency.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 02:18 AM
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16. Sorry, but Edwards didn't impress me
I don't think he added a thing to the ticket.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 01:02 AM
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7. it would be a great ticket but Harold Ford plans to run for Senate in 2006
and it will be difficult though not impossible. they might make him promise to serve out his full senate term before he runs for president or vice president. of course he could do something to become hugely popular that the people wont mind if he did break that promise.

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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 01:03 AM
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8. that's it for his career then
The Senate is the kiss of death for higher office. Still, I'd love to see Ford replace Frist.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:40 AM
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20. Ford is so much a part of the political life of TN that I don't imagine...
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 05:47 AM by AP
...they'll punish him if he were on the ticket in '08.

TN also is in the habit of seeing one of their former Senators on the ticket.

I'm not saying that I like Ford for VP. But I do think he could run after 2 years in the senate and not be hurt at all by (or hurt the ticket because of) having only 2 years in the senate.

I also think he'd probably add a lot to a ticket in terms of getting votes from interesting places and bringing buzz. I can't say that I love his politics, though I totally appreciate his predicament (and I'd rather have a moderate Dem in the senate if he or she is the only alternative to any kind of Republican).

One thing I think that will be a problem for Ford is that I think the Democrats are going to be very conscious about the message their '08 ticket says about "family" and Ford has really sacrificed his family life for politics.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:31 AM
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21. are you talking about him being single and without kids ?
if so, yeah, it would make sense since he went into public office in his 20's. he will be 38 by 2008. i don't even think he is in any commited relationship so i assume he will remain single or at least not married by then.

and i'm sure a lot of talk would focus on how he is single , attractive and young(for a vp choice) and how that would affect his job. with the media we have, they love getting into the personal stuff and they wont be able to stop talking about it and it would just become the focus of the campaign. questions for him will be about how he will go about with his dating and other crap that shouldn't even be brought up rather than on issues.

but he is young enough that i can also see him wanting to stay in the senate for a while so he can also focus on his personal life. and if/when he settles down with someone that's when he would seriously consider higher office.

i guess it all depends on how much he wants to get married and how much of a goal it is for him in his life. he might not even think it's really a big thing and would be satisfied if he never got married. but he is also smart enough to know if he seriously does want to run for national office some day, being married would be an asset and not being married might even hurt him.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:34 AM
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22. He has said that his marriage ended because he put...
...his job before his family.

I think all the advantages of being "sexy" wouldn't outweigh the damage done by the impression that he put job before family.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:57 AM
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23. i didn't know he use to be married
do you know when he got married and when it ended. even more interesting since he has mostly been in a safe seat so far so it might seem like it would be easier for him since he doesn't have to worry about tough elections every few years. so i guess he does spend a lot of time in his job.

i agree about the sexy v perception of family part. especially since single people who are most likely to care whether he is sexy already vote democratic in huge numbers. and it's the "family values" crowd that we have trouble with.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:08 AM
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24. Googling, I can't find anything.
Maybe I read that he said he hasn't gotten married because of his job. I distinctly remember reading about him geting a divorce, but I might have been wrong. Maybe I read a quote from an ex-girlfriend.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 01:13 AM
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10. Wes Clark and Russ Feingold.
That's my choice for '08.
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deminflorida Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 01:21 AM
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11. Great choice a former Senator who couldn't even carry his own
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 01:21 AM by deminflorida
state in the last election.

A 100% solution for putting the democrats back into the whitehouse. But, I'm sure the MSM will give him all the coverage he needs should he decide to run.

:eyes:
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 01:44 AM
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14. I wouldn't hold not carrying their own state against any Southerner
That would mean that no one from a deeply red state could ever run more than once.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 01:33 AM
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12. Hey, whatever floats your boat!
But I won't be signing on to that ticket.

Harold Ford wants to go to the Senate, & I hope he makes it.

John Edwards? What did he bring this time around?
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 01:41 AM
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13. Too early to nominate anybody for president
Let's think about replacements for our Republicanite Senators and Congresscritters. That's the important issue now, and in some ways, more important than who is president. A bunch of feisty new Dems in the Capitol could do a lot to block Bush's worst excesses.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 02:11 AM
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15. I'm not going to get too worked up about it.
I'm just offering it for consideration. I'm not, as they say, married to it. Yes, much to do here, and now, but if there's a moment for day dreaming, don't you have someone you think might do well?
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 02:20 AM
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17. My guess
Hillary and Bill Richardson, and they win.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 02:43 AM
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18. Please not Harold Ford
he's too conservative. There are southern progressives if you're looking for a southerner. I want someone with conviction and I've never seen that quality displayed in Ford.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:35 AM
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19. Is Harold Ford the guy stupid enough to cosponsor the kill Social Security
bill with Repugs? If so, his chances of being on such a ticket are nil.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:14 AM
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25. What a refreshing thought....
...I really like both of them.

If there's one thing I've learned from the BushCo, the president is as good as the team he chooses to run the country. With that in mind, Team Bush is a miserable failure!
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