kamqute
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Wed Jan-05-05 05:43 PM
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Andy Stephenson's run-in with Sen. Lautenberg |
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This is a direct quote from Andy Stephenson, aka god_bush_n_cheney, as of today: 'To the people of NJ from Andy Stephenson. I just spoke with Frank Lautenberg in the elevator. I first asked Senator Lautenberg if he had a few minutes to talk to me. He said yes. I began to talk to him about the voting issues I found in FL and OH. He couldn't get out of the elevator quick enough. Being the tenacious person I am, I followed him out and asked, "Senator won't you please look at the evidence? Won't you please stand with Mr. Conyers? Won't you please stand for the American People?" Mr. Lautenberg said, "I don't want to hear this." I said, "Mr. Lautenberg, I have seen the evidence, I've seen it with my own eyes. I discovered it." To which he replied, "If you don't leave me alone and stop harassing me, I will have you arrested." I said to Mr. Lautenberg, "If you stand with Mr. Conyers, you will be a hero." He said "I am a hero. I was in World War II." I replied, "You won't be in the eyes of the American people if you don't stand up with Mr. Conyers tomorrow.'
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Wed Jan-05-05 05:45 PM
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1. that's downright WEIRD. |
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From the statement, it sounded as though Lautenberg was either angry or frightened. Do you know which he actually was?
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Thu Jan-06-05 12:51 AM
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30. I guess I'm uninformed. Who is Andy Stephenson? |
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I think this speaks very badly for Lautenberg.
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:03 AM
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31. He's the DUer known as God_bush_n_cheney. |
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He worked with Bev Harris until recently. That's about all I know except that he's continuing to work on the election fraud issue.
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Wed Jan-05-05 05:46 PM
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2. I can hear Andy saying exactly that.... |
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and being persistent about it.
:hi: kamqute!
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Wed Jan-05-05 05:47 PM
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3. Real heros do not claim hero status. |
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Never.
I wonder if he stuck his fingers in his ears and said "nyah nyah nyah I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"
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Wed Jan-05-05 05:48 PM
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Wed Jan-05-05 05:49 PM
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5. Why would ANYONE in the senate run away? |
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I'm from NJ and I respect Sen. Lautenberg but can't condone his actions here. At least he should have listened to the guy's argument instead of scurrying away like that.
Is it possible that some know that there was dirty work involved in the election but just don't want to stand up from fear of right-wing retribution? If so, that's pretty sad...
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Wed Jan-05-05 05:52 PM
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9. You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep. -Navajo Proverb nt |
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Wed Jan-05-05 07:16 PM
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24. I like that proverb and leave it a Native |
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Wed Jan-05-05 05:50 PM
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6. There's no testosterone like OLD testosterone. |
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Christ, Frank. Get your head out of your ego.
Andy, you tried. Thanks for that. It just sounds like you ran into a walking ice storm.
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Wed Jan-05-05 05:51 PM
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7. Senator Lautenberg said, "I am a hero" ? |
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that would be an odd thing for someone to say about themselves.
No offense meant to you, kamqute, but I will take a second hand report I read on the Internet with a big grain of salt.
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Wed Jan-05-05 06:21 PM
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19. It is not a second hand report |
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It is not a second hand report--Andy called our house and talked to Kamqute and I heard him--I live here too!!
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Wed Jan-05-05 07:24 PM
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25. Technically, that is second hand. First hand would be Andy :-) |
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Wed Jan-05-05 06:23 PM
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20. Also--check straw citizen over on the election thread n/t |
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Wed Jan-05-05 07:03 PM
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22. No one is a hero for what they have done, |
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they are a hero for what they do.
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Wed Jan-05-05 05:51 PM
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8. What has happened to America??? n/t |
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Wed Jan-05-05 05:54 PM
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10. I called Lautenbergs office and they were rude today. They didn't want to |
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hear it either! And all I said was I would like the Senator to stand with Conyers!
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Wed Jan-05-05 05:55 PM
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11. Thanks for being there Andy |
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There is no excuse for an elected official not to listen.
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Wed Jan-05-05 05:56 PM
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12. Lautenberg is acting like a pompous know-it-all fool. (nt) |
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Wed Jan-05-05 06:01 PM
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13. Luatenberg's phone numbers |
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(202) 224-3224; 228-4054 Newark: (973) 639-8700
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Wed Jan-05-05 06:02 PM
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Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 06:03 PM by BrklynLiberal
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Wed Jan-05-05 06:12 PM
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This time "we the people" will be watching. we have educated ourselves and we know how this works. Any Senators who don't stand up in the face of the largest election fraud in history will not be looked on favorably. I will do everything I can to sink my state Senators careers if they do not stand up to this nonsense.
I will never trust them again. I think it will be the loss of faith in the integrity of our Senators whether they are Democrat or Republican that turns the tide on this.
The Senators had better be ready for a backlash if they don't show solidarity for the citizens of this country.
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Wed Jan-05-05 06:06 PM
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15. People of New Jersey put this in your file. I will send this on as well. |
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And others should too. If the media wont reveal the truth, then we will.
This is the most blatant display of elitism and harsh aggressive responding towards the biggest issue facing our Democracy.
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Wed Jan-05-05 06:07 PM
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16. Some inside information |
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Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 06:08 PM by Lenape85
I heard from a fellow e-board member of my college's CDs that he might be suffering from senility.
This just proves it.
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Thu Jan-06-05 12:19 AM
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28. That's too bad about him. I had hopes of Lautenberg and Byrd |
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standing together as "elder statesment" to take America back. We've lost so many of those "old guys" who should know what this is about. The ones who weren't tied to the Lobbyists and the Military Complex for their ego gratification and the bucks in their pockets.
That group that had some principles is gone. Lautenberg is there by accident.. I expected better of him.
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Wed Jan-05-05 06:16 PM
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real heros don't run.
What a coward.
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Wed Jan-05-05 06:38 PM
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21. Where is the link to his quote? |
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Wed Jan-05-05 07:31 PM
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26. I think the poster heard the quote first hand. |
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Andy told me a similar story only I didn't get the details - thanks for posting it.
Isn't Lautenberg supposed to be a liberal Senator?
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Wed Jan-05-05 07:15 PM
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23. How about being a "hero" this |
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century? This is going to take real heroism!
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Wed Jan-05-05 07:44 PM
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27. will you folks ever learn? the democratic party doesn't represent you |
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they represent rich and wealthy and connected people who run this country....and those folks aren't us.
they curry your votes by speaking out of both sides of their mouths, and you bozos never get it.
i don't quite know if you folks are congenitally stupid or just hopelessly naive, but expecting the democratic party to act in a responsible manner is about as likely as successfully pissing up a rope.
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Thu Jan-06-05 12:22 AM
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29. There are times when your country cries out to you to STAND UP... |
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Nixon Impeachment was one...Civil War...Robber Barons...other times.
I had some slight hope that "Grassroots" would be able to push them. I had high hopes for Internet Activism.
I couldn't give up yet and have your darkest view. Many of us feel like me in that we still can't believe there's NO ONE THERE...
After tomorrow...we'll know for sure.
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:19 AM
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32. Maybe it was too technical? My husband says I do that |
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, and I do , everytime he talks about the computer! Lol! I wouldn't have been able to get out of the elevator fast enough either! Give the guy a break. He is 83 years old!He had probably just come from the meeting with Corazine. Maybe he didn't want to hear stuff twice . And maybe, just maybe , he wasn't comfortable being accosted in an elevator.Being a Senator isn't the safest job in the world anymore, and how was he to know who Andy was, even if he told him? It isn't as though they were introduced! Sheesh. I like Andy, but you guys are really hard on Lautenberg.
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Thu Jan-06-05 08:10 AM
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34. Agreed. Maybe Lautenberg thought he was some kind of |
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nut, I don't know Andy, but maybe he was so passionate that he came across as unhinged.
I'm NOT saying it happened this way but who here knows what was going through Lautenberg's mind. No one.
The fall back position here seems to be "let's demonize him because he didn't react the way *I* wanted him to."
Geez, does anyone have any compassion, forgiveness, acceptance anymore or do we only have that when the person agrees with us or does what we want him to do?
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:21 AM
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37. Lautenberg founded ADP, the data processing firm. |
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He understands computers.
I think that he quite reasonably concluded that he was being accosted by a nut. Collaring a senator in an elevator and imploring him to take a constitutional action almost never taken before in history, without even an introduction, will get that response sometimes.
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Thu Jan-06-05 05:32 AM
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that he'd be so dismissive.
Lautengurg's been doing a decent job, but he looks like he's getting old...and it sounds like he wasn't in a good mood.
Oh well, any news on Corzine? Of course, Corzine wants to get out of the senate as fast as he can.
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:08 AM
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35. Maybe he is too old and tired to do his job anymore? Yes, wisdom |
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belongs to the elders but action is the province of the young. ------------------------------------------------------ Election reform can help save this country! http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/electionreform.htm
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:08 AM
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36. Would my above post make a great fortune cookie, or what? |
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*lol* ------------------------------------------------------ Election reform can help save this country! http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/electionreform.htm
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