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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 07:22 AM
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"You say fascism like its a bad thing."
That's what my Chiropractor told me the other day. He thought he was being funny. I about flipped off the table in the middle of being adjusted, and got educational on his ass.

I've been seeing this man for years. Yes, he's an ardent Republican, and I'm an Independent who supported Kerry this year, but most of our discussions prior to this have been about the importance of puppies and dogs. (My husband and I volunteer for a local rescue; his dogs compete in hunting trials.) His innocent, polite question "so, what have you been up to?" was answered by me in a way he didn't expect.

I spent close to two months investigating election fraud. Generally, I get a "you are kidding, right?" type of reply, and then I politely start explaining what I've learned. Florida and the "no paper trail bad memory cards." Ohio and the magic numbers. Indiana and the Democrats = Libertarian votes. New York and the Democrats = no vote. The arrogance of some of the fixers (Volusia County, Florida) just amazes me, and I've got the videotaped garbage bag incident down to a four point funny story that has people giggling by the time I'm done.

That's when people try to put on their protective cynicism. "Both sides do it, right?"

398 to 2, I tell them politely. Its kind of one of those "amazing coincidences." Personally, I think I finally figured out the two -- I think a couple of "rebels" in the party were being punished. (One of the Republican "glitches" was discovered in Texas when a Republican judicial candidate found out he couldn't vote for himself. Did the point get made?)

Then they want to know why it isn't being reported, and I look at them like they are idiots. It is being reported. Those 400 incidents are IN THE PAPERS. You can go to www.votersunite.org or www.verifiedvoting.org or www.auditthevote.org among others for the details, including sources. Its just not being talked about on television except as "kooky conspiracy theories" (and I roll my eyes when I say that because apparently programming computers is "conspiracy stuff" now instead of a job description).

In two months I've learned more than I * EVER * wanted to know about the ease with which an election can be "fixed." Stalin was right, I tell people. Its not who votes that counts, but who counts the votes.

But, my chiropractor thought he was being funny, and I really surprised him with my hostility at his stupid remark. "We're a democracy," I told him indignantly, and he tried to make another cute remark about Machiavelli and "may he who fixes the elections best win" with the added bonus of being happy this cycle because the Republicans were doing it best. I countered back with the obvious "if one side can do it, so can the other, and that's NOT what democracy is about." Then I went into my educational spiel, and by the end of the conversation, he was kind of concerned for my safety, especially when I started talking about the recent increased "suicide rate" amongst investigative reporters; one guy in December took TWO BULLETS to the back of his head before he was able to "commit suicide" successfully!

My chiropractor is actually a nice guy. He thought I was joking, and he thought he was being funny. Fascism *IS* a bad thing. Democracy means holding our leaders responsible to the people -- their employers -- for doing their jobs. With election fraud, "our leaders" aren't worried about making sure WE THE PEOPLE are happy, because our opinions -- meaning our votes -- don't count.

That's what happened on November 2, 2004, and despite all of the evidence, no one wants to believe it can happen here in the United States.

The problem is, it already did.

Regards,
Ida M. Briggs
www.invisibleida.com
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 07:29 AM
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1. A Republican chiropractor...
Most of them seem liberal to me. Maybe it's time to switch =)
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:29 AM
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2. If you switch, make sure you let him know why.
:-)
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postulater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:29 AM
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3. My chiropractor has an ImpeachBush.org sign in his yard. (nt)
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BernieBear Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:33 AM
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4. He's indicative of the problem in our country.....
You've done great work Ida. BB
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marcologico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:08 AM
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5. It might be a good idea to find a new chiropractor
Sounds like they've gotten to him and do you know what? I had a downstairs neighbor who died in a chiropractor's office, and his father was a physician. Very ironic and sad. No joke. This could be dangerous for you.
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:28 AM
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6. Screw chiropracty
They're all a bunch of quacks. Get thee to a gym and start lifting weights to strengthen your back. Pullups, good mornings, deadlifts, rows, squats, ab work. Build a back like iron, and stop wasting your money on pseudomedicine.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:44 AM
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7. You go to a chiropractor?
:wow:
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:49 AM
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8. Stop supporting his Repuke ass!
Supporting a bogus-assed pseudo-medical endeavor like chiropractic is bad enough... at least waste your money on a decent progressive.
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JD Lau Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:06 PM
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9. Thank you, Ida, for this fine commentary, for all the work
you did on this past election, and for presenting the material
you worked on in such a believable and substantive manner.

I appreciate SO VERY MUCH your professionalism and your spirit!!!

JD
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:12 PM
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10. I think he will think about what you said when he doesn't have to face-
save. I think you made a difference!
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:12 PM
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11. He just cracks me up!
...sometimes people can have a mind TOO open...
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