Goldeneye
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Thu Jan-06-05 09:31 AM
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Gonzales Hearings on C span now. |
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Thu Jan-06-05 09:36 AM
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1. Specter must have had a zit he popped |
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on his nose this morning.
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Thu Jan-06-05 09:40 AM
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Thu Jan-06-05 09:42 AM
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3. Specter's doing pretty well so far |
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Even handed, challenging, and validating to those of us who oppose the nomination.
I like the way he just asked Hatch for the gavel. Quite a smart move, IMHO. Perhaps he won't just be a pawn of the right?
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Thu Jan-06-05 09:43 AM
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4. Properly consequenced Sen. Arlen Spector is the official fluffer. |
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"Is that an impressive resume you have there, or are you just happy to be here the morning?"
"Did I mention what an impressive resume you have, you handsome Latino male?"
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Thu Jan-06-05 09:51 AM
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Hammering on the torture issue...how can this guy be confirmed?? I just don't want to hear that despite his involvement in the torture - they will confirm him anyway...what is THAT??? Every Dem should vote no on this guy - come on!!
How smug is Gonzales looking???
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Thu Jan-06-05 09:52 AM
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Thu Jan-06-05 09:55 AM
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8. I'm surprised Leahy didn't mention the Kerik vetting. |
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He did hammer pretty hard on the torture issue.
If the Dems can frame this confirmation as a vote for torture, it will be a harder vote for GOPs to explain to constituents.
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Thu Jan-06-05 09:55 AM
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Would they quit blathering and get on with it? I'm sick and tired of hearing what a great guy Mr. Torture is.
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Thu Jan-06-05 09:59 AM
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Wasn't there something written that he's never heard a case as a judge??? Who's this idiot on now saying that it's terrible if he gets raked over the coals... Rep. Cornyn... saying that it was the law that guided him on the torture... Don't you get it you Repub idiots?? OUR SOLDIERS are in danger now because of our torture habits...this is beyond disgusting!!
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:00 AM
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10. Cornyn states that the confirmation process can be "inhumane" |
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Orwellian reference number 1 noted.
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:06 AM
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13. Cornyn "framing" the debate. |
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Already accusing "enemies" of Bush will attack him (Bush) through Gonzales. Preemptive strike. Pond scum and typical repug maneuver.
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:04 AM
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11. ok this is the firsttime I've listened to cornyn |
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:06 AM
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I thought evidence no longer matters. It won't for Camp 6.
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:07 AM
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14. The entire John Cornyn speech is doubleplus ungood speak. |
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He uses his time to preemptively distort the attacks expected and frame them as personal attacks, asking us to disregard the substance of his performance as President's counsel.
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:15 AM
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15. What was up with introducing his family? |
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:40 AM
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18. its because of the abu ghraib photos that are going to |
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come out and be displayed. I personally WANT big Al's kids there to see what daddy does
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:32 AM
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I can't get to a tv at this moment, and c-span keeps gelling on me :(
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:36 AM
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17. I don't mean to sound.... |
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Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 10:36 AM by Q
...defeatist...but could someone tell me the purpose of these hearings when Democrats have already stated that they will confirm the nomination?
This is nothing more than a staged event where Dems can look 'tough' questioning Gonzales and appear to be doing their jobs. But it's already a done deal. Republicans know it. Democrats know it. So what's the purpose beside cynical theatre?
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:42 AM
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The questions are good but since Gonzales isn't answering them this is just a grandstand for both sides.
The Democrats should demand an answer, there is no point in this at all.
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:41 AM
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19. These senators need to keep asking him until he answers. |
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Gonzales has dodged every question so far and, as always, is getting away with it. If an answer is not responsive it isn't an answer!
Also, the Senators should offer no compound questions, and keep the questions short and direct, not run out the clock on their questions.
This is making me sick.
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:42 AM
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20. I'm watching Leahy question him now |
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Surprise! Gonzales is being evasive and I'll be damned if he doesn't have the same smirk as the chief chimp.
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:53 AM
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22. thank you all for keeping this going. |
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I quite simply don't have the strength to watch.
suffering from Johndeja Ashcroftvu-itis.
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:55 AM
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:55 AM
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24. kennedy ripping him apart now. Yeah!!!! |
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Thu Jan-06-05 11:10 AM
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26. I admire that and I hope some Democratic Leaders bring out the recent |
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LETTER signed by twelve (12) General Officers and Admirals expressing reservations concerning Gonzales' Confirmation: Here's the pdf version of the letter submitted to The Hill on Monday, 3 Jan 2005! = http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/us_law/etn/gonzales/statements/gonz_military_010405.pdf
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:57 AM
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25. Sen Ted: invokes Reagan and Bush Sr |
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in anti-torture amendment
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Thu Jan-06-05 11:20 AM
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27. Who just called him "good buddy"? |
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Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 11:20 AM by MaineDem
I'm listening on live streaming and I can't see who it is.
Please let it be a Republican!
On edit: Damn, it was Biden. I was hoping it wasn't him.
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Thu Jan-06-05 11:37 AM
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32. Really?!? After the way Biden went after Ashcroft about torture? |
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Honestly, I can NOT begin to identify with the *gutless wonders* who represent almost all of our Congress at the present time. Damn! I may have to disconnect and go Green and be satisfied with local political change.
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Thu Jan-06-05 11:40 AM
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33. And wasn't it Biden who said the Geneva Conventions |
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are in place "to protect my son"
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Thu Jan-06-05 11:28 AM
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28. Boy, Sessions is just feeding him every answer |
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Isn't he? This is some pretty amazing ass-kissing.
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Thu Jan-06-05 11:32 AM
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29. Right. "And you're a cautious lawyer who wants to be extra sure |
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what you're advising is correct and you're a saint above reproach as a disciple of George the Messiah, in't that correct?"
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Thu Jan-06-05 11:36 AM
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31. Yeah, now let's just be sure |
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That we justify the torture, after all, we all agree that it's okay, right?? No question from anyone that they were unlawful combatants. :mad:
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Thu Jan-06-05 11:35 AM
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30. Ridiculous ass-kissing waste of time. n/t |
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Thu Jan-06-05 12:16 PM
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He's (in)famous for this.
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Thu Jan-06-05 11:41 AM
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34. Did he really just say... |
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That treating these people well would be a disservice to the Geneva Conventions? Talk about Orwellian.
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Thu Jan-06-05 11:50 AM
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35. "The United States has never had a policy of torture." |
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Uh huh. Not only are we torturing people, we're outsourcing it to Syria.
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Thu Jan-06-05 12:02 PM
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37. again - he can claim that all he wants |
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they should ask him to DEFINE TORTURE.
i think the memo saying the pres is above the law, and can give IMMUNITY to anyone who tortures is pretty clear evidence that events at Abu Ghraib and Gitmo were state sanctioned torture.
:eyes:
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Thu Jan-06-05 12:02 PM
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Thu Jan-06-05 12:03 PM
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39. I love Russ-his questions are so pointed and direct!! |
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Thu Jan-06-05 12:04 PM
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40. I think he's very good-looking |
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Thu Jan-06-05 12:03 PM
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38. He is Already Confirmed, This is Just a Formality! |
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according to Biden... :grr:
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Thu Jan-06-05 12:09 PM
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We wouldn't want to oppose one of *'s appointments now, would we?
This guy's almost as good as Ashcroft at dodging questions.
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Thu Jan-06-05 12:13 PM
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42. Yeah, Ashcroft can sing and |
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