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AVID Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:13 PM
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Boxer on CSPAN 2
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:15 PM
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1. Fantastic!
Gutsy lady.
Almost be worth moving to California.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:20 PM
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2. And NOT ONE Network Or Cable Station Is Covering This Press Conference !!!
God damn them all to hell!!!

FUCK THE MEDIA WHORES!!!

:grr::nuke::grr:
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AVID Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:21 PM
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3. i just searched too - NOTHING
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:28 PM
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6. Yep... The Fourth Estate MY ASS !!!
:nuke:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:42 PM
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10. I checked too..not even PBS!!!!!!!
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:24 PM
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4. Tubbs is pretty amazing now too.....
I'm so confused....

Gonzales on Cspan 1

Ohio on 2.....

??????

Of course, nada on MSM...errrrgghhh
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:51 PM
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14. Thom Hartmann says it is no coincidence that they are both on at the same
time. The Repukes planned it that way. They are the ones who scheduled the Gonzales lying marathon for Jan 6, when they knew the Electoral College joint session would be today.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:28 PM
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5. I love this woman--saying she made a mistake in 2000
by not standing up!!! Al Gore asked her not to.

Wow, she is powerful!!!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:42 PM
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11. The first woman President???????????? YES!!!!
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Filius Nullius Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:29 PM
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7. ELECTOPRESTIDIGITATION
ELECTOPRESTIDIGITATION—

NOT AS LONG OR CATCHY AS SUPERCALIFRAGILISTICEXPIALIDOCIOUS, BUT PERHAPS MORE APT

Congratulations to John Conyers and Barbara Boxer! They and colleagues like Jesse Jackson are true patriots, but they appear to be voices crying in the wilderness. With the possible exception of MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann, the mainstream media and the rest of the country have been ignoring them. I wish them all the luck in the world, but I fear their valiant fight will soon be over.

When the Senate concludes its debate, somnolent Democrats will slumber peacefully until the media rouses them for the next sleepwalk to the polls. It is as though we are a party of “sleepers,” like Franco in the Manchurian Candidate, who are activated just in time to participate in a coup d'état that takes place at the conclusion of every presidential and mid-term election.

I understand the sentiment that is drilled into most U.S. politicians (and especially Democratic politicos) that the process is more important than the outcome and that the democratic electoral system must be preserved at all costs. That makes sense when minor irregularities that do not amount to fraud are involved.

However, in the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections, irregularities were not all that happened. Fraud occurred, and it was not the isolated work of single individuals. A concerted effort was made to overturn the will of the electorate in key voting precincts and counties in swing states through the manipulation of voting machines and central tabulator programs, like Diebold’s GEMS database.

The Democratic leadership appears, for the most part, to be incapable of comprehending what has happened. For some inexplicable reason, they seem unable or unwilling to understand how easily fraud can be perpetrated with the insecure voting machinery and software put in place by election officials and voting-machine vendors that are blatant supporters of the GOP.

Since the Democratic Party and national media are once again failing to confront the problem, it will inevitably be worse when the next electoral cycle rolls around. Republicans are getting close to the 60 percent majority in the Senate that will permit them to shove repressive legislation down the country’s throat without any possibility of a minority filibuster.

I was willing to suspend judgment in 2000. I looked away again during the 2002 mid-term elections in the hope that the so-called “Help America Vote Act” would correct most of the problems. However, despite those changes (and some would say largely because of them), another election has now been stolen before our very eyes. It is a feat of legerdemain more amazing than anything Houdini or Copperfield ever dreamed of accomplishing.

In fact, the GOP’s achievement is so astounding that Democrats are obviously at a loss for words. We need a new phrase to describe it. I propose “electoprestidigitation,” a term that I just this minute coined from the words “electoral” and “prestidigitation.” The latter word, which comes from the French “prestidigitateur,” meaning one who conjures illusions with his fingers (digits), takes on a whole new meaning in this age of deception by digital computer.

To put it mildly, I am profoundly disappointed with the DNC and Kerry/Edwards campaign. Frankly, I have no more trust in them than I do in CNN (“The Most Trusted Name in News,” ha!) and the other mainstream media.

The name I have chosen to use on this discussion board reflects the sense of abandonment by the Democratic Party that I feel. I am 52 and have voted for Democratic candidates in every presidential election since I was old enough to vote, but lately it has become an exercise in futility that I can see little point in repeating. They say it is a mark of insanity when one continues to engage in an activity that has failed repeatedly. As the saying goes, “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.” Fool me three times and counting…. Well, you get the picture.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:37 PM
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9. Great Post !!! - Welcome To DU Filius Nullius !!!
:toast::bounce::hi::bounce::toast:

Looking forward to your future posts!

I'm 49, and like you, have voted Dem every election since Jerry Brown for CA Gov. in 1974. I'd like to continue being a Democrat, but then I'd like to have Democrats behave with some spine too!

Today's action by Tubbs\Boxer keeps me in the D column for now, and postpones my walk over to Greener pastures... if ya know what I mean.

:hi:
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Filius Nullius Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:49 PM
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13. Electoprestidigitation
Thanks, Willy. I, too, will reserve decision until after the debate, but I fear there is little or no hope that it will accomplish anything. CNN didn't even cover the Boxer/Tubbs-Jones announcement. Do you know whether the debates in the Senate and House will be public?
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 01:00 PM
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15. I'm Not Sure !!!
The joint session will be public, but I don't know about the individual debates. I'd have to assume that C-Span will cover them, but I don't know for sure.

:shrug:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:48 PM
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12. Welcome Filius..I echo the sentiments of Willy T, altho I will not reveal
my age.. :* Excellent first post!
My voting history is the same as you guys, and my emotions are the same. I hope that the events of today, and the courage of the Democrats that speak today, put a fire under the party.
If so, I might stay with it.....

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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:32 PM
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8. "The Battle for Electoral Justice"--Boxer just named it!!!
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