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Wisc Badger Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:24 PM
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To all you Maxine Waters backers
I was stationed in Southern CA in the mid 80's when she was thrown out as a judge.

She never misses a chance to play the race card in the most rancid manner available. She is not an asset to the Democratic party.

Now I realize I am a recovering Republican but I still have a problem digesting the Maxine Waters, Shelia Jackson Lee's and bloated whale (IE Michael Moore) of the Democratic Party.

I like my Dems Wisconsin style ala Feingold, Doyle, etc or the Biden's of the world are quite good also.

Just my thoughts.

Flame away if you believe you must.

BTW: Nice to see the Dems step up and throw a monkey wrench into the Bush/GOP machine if even for only a couple of hours.
:eyes:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:25 PM
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:26 PM
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2. So she plays the 'race card' yet you refer to people as bloated whales
That's not rancid?
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48pan Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:41 PM
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32. Now just a damned minute!
Are you telling me that when I refer to Newt as a bloated whale I'm being racist? This cannot be!
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:26 PM
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3. You didn't back up your statement with any facts
And I suggest that you look again with some sensitivity at race issues. If you are a white male it's harder to see them.
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:27 PM
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4. you like your dems lilly white and obedient I guess

I'll take Sheila Jackson Lee and Michael Moore over Biden any day.
But then again I was never ignorant enough to be a republican at any time in my life.

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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:52 PM
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35. Alright!
They sure must feel frightened today, if they have to invade our blogs just to beat us up, and try to turn us against ourselves.
Thanks, but no thanks. Generally speaking, we're not 'mindless' here.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:27 PM
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5. Who cares how "you like your Dems" -
you have not recovered much - bloated whale? the race card? you like em thin and white and male, is that it? Sheesh.
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RadiDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:27 PM
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6. Duh ! Repugs ARE Racists ! Look at the 2004 election map
vs the slave state map.

The GOP = KKK
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:30 PM
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7. Well, I am very proud of Maxine Waters
and her courage to speak the truth...especially when it disturbs ALL lying Republicans whether or not they are recovering from the lies and cheating and RACISM that they voted into office.

I wouldn't flame you for the world. You belong in the DLC...they have a lot of room for people who think as you do.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:31 PM
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9. In the 1980's, the DLC was considering abandoning Civil Rights....
and going along with the racist GOP.
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:30 PM
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8. the race card has been played against the citizenry
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 03:34 PM by buddhamama
and has been since we became a Nation of *cough cough* "equals". "the race card" was played in the theft of the election. any belief to the contrary is sheer lunacy.

edited for clarity
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:32 PM
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10. While I enjoyed her statements,
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 03:47 PM by DistressedAmerican
I thought her dedicating her actions to Michael Moore was VERY TACKY. It just gives the Repugs ammo. They have long been saying the party has been Hijacked by the guy. Personally I love his movies. But dedicating the action to him is wrong. Dedicate the action to the disenfranchized and those of us who have been working.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:35 PM
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Hell, no! It shows a refreshing cheekiness that demonstrates
that Ms. Waters is not one to be intimidated by Republicanite talking points.

Who cares what the freepers think?
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:41 PM
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19. i agree
i thought Maxine was brilliant
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:42 PM
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21. It is not what the freepers think
They can go to hell. It is what we think. I just do not believe that with all of the people working this problem it is appropriate to single him out in floor debate like he was the ONE guy. We were all working. Many lost their vote. I bet his was tallied. Why MUST he be our poster boy?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:49 PM
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22. Who cares what the Repugs think???
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:37 PM
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31. Repugs make ammo out of everything
The Republicans would go after Maxine Waters no matter what. Take a look at the nasty rumors that circulate on the internet about her.

Does anyone think that the Republicans would say nice things about Maxine Waters if she hadn't dedicated her vote to Michael Moore?
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:32 PM
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11. BTW: I respect and admire Maxine Waters
n/t
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:32 PM
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12. I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 03:40 PM by htuttle
Feingold, Doyle and Biden? What do they have in common other than the fact they are all white men with a 'D' after their name?

How long have you lived in Wisconsin? I can't believe it's been that long, since I doubt any Wisconsinite would make fun of someone else's weight and pasty complexion -- especially in the winter when we all tend to resemble woolen-wrapped lumps of cheese curds.

I don't buy it.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:42 PM
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20. "woolen-wrapped lumps of cheese curds"--LOL!
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:34 PM
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13. What about all repukes
utilizing the race card in the Gonzalez hearings.

Dems don't want him because he's a latino? Get Real.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:34 PM
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14. Perhaps you haven't recovered all the way? n/t
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:35 PM
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15. You should take something for that.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:35 PM
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16. Your "recovery" is need of education.
You might start with some reading about slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, and the continuing problem of racism in this country.

You might also try basing some of your thinking on what Michael Moore has brought to light rather than what you think of his appearance.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:35 PM
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17. this can't be for reals
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:35 PM
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18. Seems That The Republicans Play The Race Card Much More
Frequently than do the Democrats.

So, I don't know what you are talking about.

Seems that your perceptions might be a bit off because of your past affiliations.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:50 PM
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23. Good for Maxine!!!! n/t
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:10 PM
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24. Sorry Maxine Waters doesn't please you, sir.
Or that you feel Michael Moore is a "bloated whale."

Not hard to believe you used to be a Republican.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:10 PM
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:12 PM
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26. Well, I like Maxine Waters
She came through for us when it really counted!
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:15 PM
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27. I am really proud of
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 04:18 PM by Eloriel
all the DUers before me who have called you on your stuff.

Let me give you a clue: 99.9% of the time when ANYone charges that some minority, esp. African American, is "playing the race card," the person making the charge is him or herself racist and just doesn't like being reminded of that fact and the institutional, cultural, enduring racism in our society. For all practical purposes, the charge is meritless and, as I've said, indicative of innate racism on the part of the alleger.

I have seen African Americans use the race card inappropriately and unfairly. Clarence Thomas comes to mind when he bellowed about (oh, what was his term?)..."media lynching" or some such. No, you pathetic Uncle Tom, you were being challenged on your untoward behaviors and suitability for the highest court in the land. But the instances of this are so rare, so unusual as to not be worth mentioning (except in the case of Thomas who took it to a whole new level).
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:15 PM
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28. Maxine Waters Rawks!
And I feel sorry for anyone who can't take what she's dishing out!
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Barney Rocks Donating Member (746 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:18 PM
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29.  Wisc Badger
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 04:19 PM by Barney Rocks
your post really pisses me off.

you should not be criticizing a great patriot like Maxine Waters. Especially not on a day when she is one of the few people to stand tall for democracy. I am ashamed that the Democratic party has members like you who are afraid of a strong, opinionated, black woman.

You have not come far enough from your Repug days.

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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:31 PM
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30. I doubt you've recovered very much
RL
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:47 PM
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33. I suppose we are to not to believe this is not a gloating and stick a fork
in cause they are done post. Surely you are not serious to think that this whole country is not about race, some people just speak it up front while others do the deeds up front. Get over yourself and have injections done to change the color of your skin and live in some of those folks world for a time.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:48 PM
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34. She represents the views and interests of people who elect her
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 04:52 PM by Mountainman
She is not there to please you nor is Michael More. I like them both.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:01 PM
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36. Maxinne Waters is very smart
Long ago I used to testify in front of her in the California state Assembly. She was the one we most feared. She can be caustic as many politicians can be. What made us fear her is that she is very, very smart and informed. If she disagreed with her, you had a detailed argument that I wouldn't win by more knowledge. I always enjoyed our encounters.

I've watched her closely in Congress and she is basically the same. Willing to fight for what's right and to take on issues. She still is very, very smart and informed. I'm glad she's on my side now.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:10 PM
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39. Maxine rocks!
She's savvy, smart, well-informed and courageous. And God bless her for honoring Michael Moore. I personally know of at least 5 young adults that voted because of his enthusiasm about the poltical process. I find that those that criticize him have not read his books or seen his movies, for the most part.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:07 PM
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37. I must have missed something - when was MM elected?
Maxine Waters
Shelia Jackson Lee
Micheal Moore

One of these is not like the other
One of these just doesn't belong

MM is a filmmaker, not a lawmaker. See the difference there?

:eyes:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:08 PM
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38. Methinks Wisc Badger dropped a stink
bomb and left.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:16 PM
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40. Nice flamebait. Lame.
:thumbsdown:
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:24 PM
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41. Sorry but Maxine Waters is very cool
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 05:25 PM by Downtown Hound
You got something against outspoken women? A lot of Republicans do, even recovering ones.
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