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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:45 AM
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Bush's approval rating at a 50-year low
for a president beginning his 2nd term in office, according to CNN TV. His approval rating now, just before beginning his 2nd term, is 49% approve of his job and 49% disapprove. Clinton's rating just prior to beginning his 2nd term was right around 60%.

Imagine if most of the bushites who were polled voted honestly. I'm sure his approval rating would more likely be around 15%.

Just the same, this is a positive for us...when there aren't too many being spoken of lately.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:48 AM
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1. We have a lot of gifts from the Republicans
And this is the perfect time to use them! Thanks, Delay, for being so "compassionate" towards disenfranchised voters yesterday! We'll be using your soundbites now.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:01 AM
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8. DeLay was bordering insanity yesterday
This jerk and that other venemous jackass, the one from Ohio, did everything short of calling the black caucus and Sen Boxer commie traitors....talk about acting as if they had something to hide.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:02 AM
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10. I know - wasn't it great?
They looked a shade less crazy than Zell. It was wonderful.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:48 AM
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2. What a
MAN DATE!
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:49 AM
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3. Fucking 9/11 terrorists.
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 09:50 AM by skypilot
You do realize that if it hadn't been for 9/11 we'd have a different president right now, don't you? His approval rating pre-9/11 was in the low 40s. Everything started looking up for that prick after that September morning.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:52 AM
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4. The terra-ists already WON.
The whole goal of terrorism is to EFFECT CHANGE.

They already won.
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jswordy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:20 AM
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14. I agree they won...
...when I look at our own national landscape and how much the attack has changed. Examples:

1.) We are planning now for the lifetime imprisonment of SUSPECTED terrorists, offering them no legal recourse. That is not only unAmerican, it is akin to what our enemies do. Saddam did it.

2.) We are planning to ship out some of these SUSPECTED terrorists to countries we KNOW will torture them on receipt. Again, we act more like our enemies here than like our national myth of who we are.

3.) We have a man about to become the AG, the head of law enforcement in this land, who has explicitly endorsed the use of torture.

4.) Attacked by religious extremists, we then re-elect a government of religious extremists to run our own country. Not only re-elect, but make them stronger!

5.) Told by our leaders that our attackers are trying to take away our rights and liberties, we sit by and watch those same leaders take them from us themselves.

6.) The terror event is used by our leaders to draw us into an unjustifiable war in Iraq, thereby turning the terror event by extension into a fantastic recruiting tool for future terrorists.

7.) The cost of that war, to the tune of $6 BILLION A DAY, further weakens the country by being added to the annual deficit and ultimately the cumulative national debt. The two largest foreign owners of that debt are Japan ($700 billion) and China ($360 billion). We are selling our country to foreigners, weakening it by the day.

I can go on and on, there's lots more evidence, but you get the idea. The terrorists have won. Bin Laden got what he wanted...a strike of huge negative impact on the U.S., done on the cheap.
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:37 PM
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27. Bin Laden and Bush have different agendas, but...
the means they both go about obtaining their goals are similar. Bin Laden wanted to bankrupt America for a number of reasons, and he is winning. Bush wanted to enrich himself and his cronies at the expense of the innocent lives lost in the "darker skinned" countries and the taxpayers. He is obviously winning too. Bush could care less about anyone outside his circle of fascists. Bin Laden doesn't need to be caught because he is promoting an end Bush and his ilk ultimately desire: perpetual war to line their pockets. It makes me sick...

I encourage everyone to read Dan Briody's book about Halliburton if you have not done so.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:52 AM
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5. yes, 9/11 was the "Pearl Harbor moment"
the PNAC was looking for.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:37 PM
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26. You mean "planned for" don't you?
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:00 AM
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7. I think we would have had a different president ...
..if it hadn't been for Osama's 11th-hour video "endorsing" Kerry. That plus Rove's brilliant decision to have Bush visit Ohio at 5pm election eve were key factors to Dubya hanging on to his throne.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:03 AM
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12. We need a way to break through their brainwashing effectiveness
I saw a report on the news the other night - two women who had lost their sons in Iraq.

One woman was speaking out about how Iraq was not a thread, her son did not believe in the war, but he felt he had to go because his buddies needed him.

The other woman said the following

"We had been attacked"

"If we didn't act now we'd all be wearing burqas"

"We had to do something or else 'they'd' completely run us over"


Not surprisingly this woman lives by a strict interpretation of the Bible.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:14 AM
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13. I SAW THAT!!!!
I meant to post about it. Actually, the one woman said, "...or else they will completely overrun us". She sounded as though she was afraid that Muslims would somehow breed America out of existence. My jaw hit the floor when she said that she'd probably be wearing a burqa if we hadn't gone into Iraq. Someone should remind her (or inform her to begin with) that Iraqi women don't wear burquas and Saddam Hussein, a secular dictator, wasn't that kind of burqa-enforcing fundamentalist. There is just so much educating that these people need. It's so disheartening because I don't think of myself as a particularly smart person. I graduated high school by the skin of my teeth and did not go to college and I'm still dumbstruck by how ill-informed some of these people are.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:09 AM
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18. she sounds like a PERFECT example
of the real bushie 'trifecta'

HATE, FEAR and IGNORANCE

that's how they won.

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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:28 AM
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20. That's exactly what she was...
...and when they wrapped up her segment by telling us that she was also a Christian fundamentalist it all made a perfect, scary kind of sense. She was practically a poster child for the typical scared, uninformed, xenophobic, blindly faithful Bush voter. She actually said at one point that if going into Iraq was the way to fight terrorism then she was all for it. The operative word here is if. But that's a whole other discussion that she'll probably never have with anyone.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:27 PM
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22. That's true, and I'm realizing something else now
That if we have another attack on the US, we'll have Bush in 2009 too, or Jeb. 9/11 created a situation where the people were happy to centralize all power and to quiet all criticism in the commander in chief, who, unfortunately, is an evil little incompetent. Another attack and the fascist state is here.
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:56 AM
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6. His approval could be 20%
He still enjoys uncontested power, thats all that matters.
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:01 AM
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9. Exactly, there is no recourse for us as to recall, impeach etc.
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 10:03 AM by In Truth We Trust
edit to add: However regardless of a lack of legal recourse we should demand the peoples will and interests are heard. This won't happen via msm so we must be the media.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:30 PM
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23. Agreed. nt
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mpanno Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:03 AM
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11. get ready for another "terror attack" that will
probably increase his approval rating... just like last time.... what an ass wipe he is.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:20 AM
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15. or the invasion of another poor country of different color & religion
which in reality is another terror attack of his own.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:58 AM
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16. it's all about reducing expectations, so Rove can claim a legacy victory
when the Frat Boy has a 50.1% approval rating by the end of his 2nd term.

Headlines: The Comeback Kid says So Long
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:01 AM
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17. 49% before the election, 49% after, 48% exit polls
yet he was re-installed into the White House - they so f***ing blatantly stole the election - AGAIN
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:23 AM
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19. Yeah, what a coincidence
That little 51% bubble that helped him win a 2nd term. The little bubble that only lasted a few hours on the night of November 2...
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:39 AM
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21. and all crucial states reverted to that bubble at roughly the same time
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:31 PM
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24. So what! His approval rating could be 5% and it would
change nothing. He still controls Congress and the Supreme Court.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:33 PM
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25. Imagine if most of the bushites who were polled voted honestly...
I'm sure his approval rating would more likely be around 15%."

Only if all the idiot members of his immediate family were included.
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