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flobee1kenobi Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:29 AM
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Do Dems want to win?
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 11:38 AM by flobee1kenobi
Stop trying to please everyone-it never works, even among the dems.
Study closely how the Repugs won as closely as football teams study game films.
If you believe in something-fight for it. If you back down to please a group of people-it makes you look weak, even to the group you are trying to please.
To defeat a repug-use the truth, because they can't!

Repugs didn't win a second term by aiming to please. They don't care.
They won by mis-direction, changing the subject, attacking the messenger and fear.

The past 2 elections, we have tried the same "Please Everyone"strategy and it produced the same result each time.

Dems can also be slick and manipulative, I've seen flashes of it!
During the debates, in campaign speeches ect..
but when we do it, we throw in the truth-and they can't defeat that.
I've listened to many call Michael Moore a nutjob, but what I haven't heard is ANY of those same people PROVE HIM WRONG.
We need to embrace people like him-not shun him, just because repugs say he is crazy.
Thousands smashed Dixie chicks albums because they spoke out.
GUESS WHAT-turned out they were right!
What are Dems afraid of? POINT OUT THE FAILURES! Ask why WMD's are not as important as the oil that we secured first! Ask how we are more secure with more porous borders! Ask how trillions of dollars of debt is boosing the economy!
MAKE THEM ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!!!!!!
OVER AND OVER AGAIN!
/rant
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:45 AM
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1. "Repugs didn't win a second term by aiming to please"--wrong
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 11:46 AM by jpgray
Note Bush's cowardice and vacillation on a few issues--the AWB, the 9/11 Commission, and the Homeland Security bill. The polls told him the AWB was popular, so he "supported it" while letting it sunset--too cowardly to actively endorse its ending because of its popularity, too cowardly to support it staying because of the gun lobby. 9/11 Commission--opposed the creation until it was too politically unfeasible and he caved. He opposed testifying himself, allowing Condi to testify publicly, &c until those positions were politically unfeasible and he caved. He opposed the Homeland Security bill and then caved under the political winds.

You may be thinking of those few economic or imperialist policies the Republicans never waver with. They have constructed a platform of "moral" issues that they promote with an extensive PR campaign to make up for those unpopular economic/imperialist positions. Everything else that doesn't fit into that strategy is up for grabs. Maybe our problem is that we have no similar strategy, but rather react to theirs.
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naryaquid Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:48 AM
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2. I am absolutely WITH you!...Your attitutudes/questions about our current
Dem "leaders" are the same as mine!...Why don't they just get down and fight?..Call the Repugs OUT, at least, on their lying crap?!..I remember my Dad, an old FDR Dem, throwing up his hands years ago in disgust, saying "There ARE no Democrats anymore!"..

The only politician I've seen who seems ready to kick butt, is Howard Dean...And what does the "Leadership" do?...try and undermine him at every turn!....I don't get it.
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