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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:08 PM
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Poll question: Is Dean even *ready* for the DNC?
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 08:15 PM by Hardhead
This is like the old saw about an irresistable force meeting an immovable object. In a collision between Dean and the DNC, I have to wonder who will be changed the most. I fear it would be Dean, and not for the better. Overcoming bureaucratic, institutional, donor-funded hegemony is a herculean task on a good day.

Is Howard Dean better off in charge of the DNC or as a voice in the wilderness? (Please note, I don't believe for a minute he will get the job.)

Meanwhile, many of us will forever wonder what candidate Dean would have done in the face of the Ohio Irregularities. I can't presume to read that future, but I think it's a safe bet to conclude that he would have been a lot more noisy than Kerry has been.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:09 PM
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1. You might want to edit your post
To read DNC Democratic National Committee
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:16 PM
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6. God, did I really do that?
I had a feeling I had the wrong acronym, but I just went with the feeling, man.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:11 PM
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2. Dean is exploring a run for the DNC Chair, not DLC
Dean may be affected by the position, but he will also bring change to the DNC. But right now he hasn't formally put his "hat in the ring."
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:12 PM
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3. Wait, are you talking about his being DNC chair?
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 08:13 PM by jpgray
And the DLC going after him, or the DNC being so sluggish and torpid that he would be blunted by even trying to get it off the ground once he's in charge?

I think Dean's better than you give him credit for. He's perfectly capable in my view of nursing the more conservative Democrats back in the base's direction while maintaining his own values.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:19 PM
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7. I did not like Dean for President, but he's just what the party needs now.
I think he will put a tremendous effort into local and Congressional races.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:13 PM
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4. If you don't believe he will get the job
then what is the point of this?

I think he wouldn't be changed as much as you think.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:16 PM
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5. No, but...
He is ready for the DNC Chair.

I think his chances may be better than you think, as well.


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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:20 PM
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8. OBIWAN He IS our only hope
:party: :toast: :dem:

:dem: :dem: :dem:
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Johnny Noshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:43 PM
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17. Make him the chairman
we can pick up our swords and take down the rethuglican orcs.:dem:


"When you trade your values for the hope of winning, you end up losing and having no values....so you keep losing." Howard Dean 2004
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:34 PM
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9. Dean is a bad man....should not be in the party.
Let's kick him out....let's kick us out....hell, let's kick us all out.

:crazy:
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:36 PM
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10. But is the DNC ready for Dr. Dean? THAT'S the real question.
:evilgrin:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:40 PM
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11. Nope...they should kick him out...kick us out. Keep the others..
:evilgrin:
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:48 PM
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12. hey madfloridian
you really are mad!@!!!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:55 PM
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13. Yep....kick us out...we'll form our own.
:silly:

:evilgrin:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:00 PM
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18. You are on a tear tonight!
So funny!
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:58 PM
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14. Dean is exactly what the DNC needs right now
They may be too delusional to realize it. I hope not.
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marcologico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:19 PM
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15. agree
Seems like a place where he can be effective. He might have to fight like hell to get it though.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:31 PM
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16. Please howard do NOT accpet the DNC chair job because
you can no longer be a candidate for any elected position including congress or pres/vice pres...I would be pleased to see him as a VP candidate even if not for pres

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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