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Fri Jan-07-05 10:11 PM
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just received this via email. very interesting christian books website... |
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Fri Jan-07-05 10:15 PM
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1. I always thought Fundies were the KKK reinvented... now this is proof |
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Fri Jan-07-05 10:15 PM
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Fri Jan-07-05 10:18 PM
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...would have spat on the kkk.
BTW, did you notice that they don't seem to be selling books? At least not on the front page!
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Fri Jan-07-05 10:37 PM
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Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 10:38 PM by Clark2008
was a man of honor. He, personally, detested slave ownership, but fought for the rights of the agrarian South, where he was raised, to have control over its own destiny.
He was honorable in battle and honorable in defeat.
And, you're right, he would have spat on the KKK of the 1930s; however, I'm guessing he supported the KKK for what it was originally formed to do, which was prevent Northern carpetbaggers from raping women and tossing widows off their land (no offense to Northern people here, but this was a fact of life in the post-Civil War South). The KKK became a racist organization in the 1930s during the Great Depression when poor Southern white men thought poor Southern black men were stealing their jobs without a right.
Funny how poverty breeds hate, ain't it?
(My father is a Civil War/Civil Rights historian. I'm not defending or promoting any racist belief here. I'm just telling it like it is. The part about the "carpetbaggers" might interest some of you who wonder why the South behaves so differently. It really is an historic reason.)
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Fri Jan-07-05 11:47 PM
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11. A slight correction ... |
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The KKK slowly faded out during the latter 19th century until DW Griffith's horrible "Birth of a Nation" caused its greatest revival.
BTW, why don't Northerners ever mention the "Know Nothings" and the "Wide Awake" vigilante groups in the North that hunted down Jews and Catholics and everyone else they didn't like?
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Fri Jan-07-05 11:56 PM
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13. I don't think the KKK waited until 1930 to get racist. |
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By 1877 as Federal troops were removed from the South there was a lot of terror unleashed to drive freedmen from the polls and back into a subservient role. I teach US history and I always bring up the Know-Nothings
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Sat Jan-08-05 12:10 AM
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Do enlighten us on that.
Sherman's March to the Sea was greatly decried for rapes and killings during the last months of the Civil War by Confederate propagandists. Later investigations showed that there wasn't a single rape that could be attributed to Sherman's forces- they had so many willing black women and prostitutes along that you can see why the incentives would have been very small. The ones that were documented seem to be attributable to Wheeler's men (who had a terrible reputation for theft and violence by war's end), irregular Confederate cavalry, and marauding Confederate deserters.
They did quite a job on their fellow Southerners after war's end too. Federal troops were begged to occupy regions because of the amount of criminal violence. Southern propagandists- who ended up controlling the history writing for the country, and wrote most of the textbooks and 'documentary' books about the war with an incredible pro-Southern slant for the next fifty years- have greatly poisoned the sources most people rely on and blurred an awful lot. The Confederate policy of starving federal soldiers to the brink of death is one thing that is still "controversial".
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Sat Jan-08-05 12:28 AM
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History is more complex than the simplified version you learned at community college. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/reconstruction/kkk/sf_klan.htmlor is PBS too right-wing for you?
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Fri Jan-07-05 10:16 PM
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They even have kiddie sizes, too!
I detest these people more than I can say. I resent that they have the temerity to call themselves "Christian".
Of Course, jerry fartswell says I'm not a Christian because I voted for John Kerry. And to these people, my Puerto Rican wife and African American son qualify me as a race traitor.
Disgusting!
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Fri Jan-07-05 10:24 PM
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5. Also interesting to note...a coverup |
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Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 10:25 PM by BayouBengal07
I went to their home page, clicked on "t-shirts", and you'll notice in the URL the pages are numbered: http://www.christianbooksandthings.com/cbtees1.htmhttp://www.christianbooksandthings.com/cbtees2.htm http://www.christianbooksandthings.com/cbtees3.htmand so on. I noticed, unlike most pages, they don't go in numbered ordered, and http://www.christianbooksandthings.com/cbtees5.htm, the KKK selection, is not offered unless you manually put in the 5 to view the page. Interesting, they try to cover it up, like its a secret except for those who know it.
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Fri Jan-07-05 10:30 PM
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7. And look what they have the nerve to put on the first page.... |
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So burning crosses and lynching isn't hate???
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Fri Jan-07-05 10:42 PM
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9. Yeah I get that a lot. |
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At LSU you get a lot of kids from small Louisiana towns who hang purple and gold Confederate flags in their dorm room windows and drive around in pickup trucks with hunting camo caps on.
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Fri Jan-07-05 11:54 PM
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12. Why do you think the word "heritage" |
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means burning crosses and lynching? What is it about the word "heritage" - or the phrase "Southern heritage" that frightens you? I am a Southern liberal, but this intense desire by some of our Northern brethren to submerge or erase all "heritages" is the trait I dislike the most - and is the one that keeps other Southern liberals away. It's our heritage; it's up to us, not you, to embrace or reject. Stop telling us what to do with it or how to feel about it and let's focus our energies on destroying conservativism.
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Fri Jan-07-05 10:28 PM
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Who Would Jesus Lynch? :puke:
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Fri Jan-07-05 11:34 PM
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10. I went into a Christian bookstore the other day ... |
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and, keeping a straight face, I asked where their section of books on how the Jews ruled the world were. When I got a blank stare, I asked them to also show me where their books on the evils of the homosexual agenda were.
After a minute or two, after looking at the serious expression on my face ...
... they showed them to me.
Creepy, creepy creepy.
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Sat Jan-08-05 02:17 AM
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16. It might be funny if.... |
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the producers from crank yankers on comedy central got their phone number off the whois billing info and gave them a call.
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Sat Jan-08-05 02:19 AM
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I'm dreaming of a White Christmas?
GA-ROSS!
Those mouth breathers are such a throwback. You'd have thought Darwin's laws would have gotten all of them by now.
I need a shower now.
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