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Comicstripper Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 06:20 PM
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Jon Corzine for Prez 2008?
What do we know about this guy?
Senator, yeah...BUT soon-to-be-Governor of New Jersey, which isn't an elitist blue state, more of a blue-collar one. He'll have been governor for three years in 2008.
Thoughts?

Tell me that doesn't remind you of "The West Wing"...
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iwantmycountryback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 06:20 PM
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1. You have to start campaigning pretty early though
At some point in '06, so he won't actually be governor for too long.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 06:21 PM
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2. Moderate all around. Anti Iraq War and much more...
personal than Kerry.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 06:24 PM
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3. He doesn't have "it"
Charisma, or whatever it's called. He's fairly decent for a NJ politician. I'm originally from NJ and am cynical about most NJ pols. But I don't see how he can connect with voters from the South and West.

Dean-Boxer would be nice.
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 06:36 PM
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8. LO real L Yeah my fellow Southerners would be standing in line for Dean
and Boxer.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 11:09 PM
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11. Sad to say you're right.
Dean for DNC chair! Boxer stay in the senate! I'm changing my slogan to
Any Real Southern Democrat in 2008! Bring on the accents, darlin'!
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:49 PM
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21. Yeah right. Dean and Boxer are MUCH better...
:crazy:
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latteromden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 06:25 PM
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4. TOTALLY West Wing. I quite like him; I'd consider it, definitely. (n/t)
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njdemocrat106 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 06:27 PM
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5. He already has my vote for Governor
I would be more than honored to share my Senator with the rest of America in 2008. He really is a down-to-earth guy, and he isn't machine, either.
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 06:34 PM
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6. I would love for him to stay in the Senate. I like him.. the NY Whore
Edited on Sun Jan-09-05 06:38 PM by Prodemsouth
Times endorsed his Repug opponent. They didn't like that fact he has so much money. They charged he was buying a Senate seat-(if thats what it takes to win, they are a Dem and not like Zell Miller- I am all for that) We need him in the Senate. I liked him from the start-many purist had a hang up like the NY Times because he has money-but they seem to like him now. Christy Todd Whitman has been running around bashing Bush because she has her eye on that Senate seat. She wants those Blue State mods and swings who may be turned off by Bush. We don't need another pug. Stay Jon please...please. please.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 06:34 PM
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7. He's a good guy
and he'd make an interesting candidate. He has a great story as well...self made millionaire, etc.

But I'm sure he's more interested in just focusing on getting elected to governor first.

I'm not from NJ and I've heard he's very likely to get elected, but do the republicans have anyone that could be competetive? I heard that they might run Whitman and she is still popular in the state...
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 08:24 AM
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14. She's already been governor of NJ
and i don't think she can run again
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:51 PM
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22. Whitman is NOT popular in the state.
:eyes:
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 04:39 PM
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24. That's good to know. I really can't stand that woman.
I'm not from the state and I'm going off of what someone else said on DU! ;)
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shawmut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 06:43 PM
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9. You can't win with a beard
He'd have to shave it off. ;)
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:48 PM
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10. New Jersey's not an "elitist" blue state?
I'm not so sure. It has the highest per capita income in the country and a lot of white-collar wealth. Corzine of course is a very rich exec from Goldman Sachs.

Of course, maybe what you mean is just the perception and it's possible that the perception of New Jersey is (falsely) more blue-collar than Massachusetts. But I don't really think so.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:43 PM
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19. LOL! I took exception to that remark myself. I live in NJ....
Edited on Mon Jan-10-05 01:47 PM by Kahuna
home of the "McMansions." Uh... NJ is pretty much "elitist" and becoming more so, day by day. To buy a decent home in the suburbs, will cost you a half a million dollars. A decent townhouse in the burbs could cost well over 200,000.

NJ has always been a state with a LOT OF MONEY and a lot of millionaires and a lot of well to do people, a lot of universities and a well educated populace. That's why there is so much crime. Seeing all the affluence around you is enough to make a person very envious and covetous.
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Comicstripper Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 03:49 PM
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23. Yes, yes, you and I know that
I live in MD.
But, most people don't think of it as an "elitist" state. That's all I meant. The assosciation there is largely industrial.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:12 AM
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12. Too liberal, too wealthy
I hate to sound like a broken record, but I urge anyone who proposed a presidential candidate to ask themselves this question: which red states can this guy carry?

I don't see Corzine carrying a single state that Kerry didn't carry.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 08:26 AM
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15. All he has to carry besides current blue states is Ohio
and it's high time to clean the rethugs out of power there.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:13 AM
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13. He voted for Bush for President on Thrusday.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 10:32 AM
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16. I love him, but NO because he's a senator!
Senators never win. We have a lot of good governors.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 10:34 AM
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17. It think promoting some from Wall St to Senate to WH sends the wrong...
...message to voters.

It's not part of the Democratic theme of morality to reward capitalists with the most powerful office in the country. He may deserve it and he may be a great guy, but it's not going to be easy to beat Republicans if you're arguing that their world view is right -- that the most deserving people in America are those who make millions of dollars from buying and selling corporations and stocks and bonds.
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Ivan Sputnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:14 AM
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18. No way
He has a beard and wears glasses. (Equals "intellectual" to Joe Sixpack.)

He's a Northeastern liberal.

He has a charisma deficit.

Only thing in his favor: fabulously wealthy.

I do think he'll make a good governor.

(New Jersey a blue collar state? Try getting off the Turnpike once in a while.)

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:46 PM
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20. If Corzine had the looks of, say... Al Gore or Chuck Hagel...
he'd have a good chance. I think he has a great senate record to run on. And, he's not mealy-mouthed like the rest of the Dems. Unfortunately, Americans don't elect balding, eyeglass-wearing liberal from NJ. Our lose.
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