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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 04:32 PM
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Poll question: What would you think of Max Cleland as Vice President
Although Max Cleland is supporting Kerry I believe he would be a fine Vice President for any of the candidates for several reasons.

He is experienced in government, he's a combat veteran and it helps that as a Georgian he's a Southerner. What a repudiation of what the Republicans did to him in 2002 that would be! I believe it would also send the message "No matter what your disability or hardship you can overcome those obstacles". What do you think?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 04:36 PM
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1. I voted "No" because we can't have two Southeners on the ticket!
If either Clark or Edwards wins the nomination, we cannot have two Southerners on the ticket.
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Buffler Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 04:38 PM
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2. Why not?
Clinton & Gore were two southerners and easily won in 92 and 96.
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:06 PM
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17. Clinton/Gore easily won in '92?
News to me...if Clinton doesn't write a thank you note to Perot every single year at Christmas for the '92 election, he's an ungrateful snot. j/k

Later.

RJS
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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 04:39 PM
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3. Why not?
I'd be ok with it and I'm a Northerner.
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HardRain Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 04:39 PM
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4. Two Southerners . . . . .
. . . is how we won TWICE -- in '92 and '96.

But, I don't think Max has the stamina and stomach for a national run. How about Clark/Edwards?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 04:43 PM
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5. We won in 1992 because of Clinton's charisma
and because Perot was running, and because Bush glanced at his watch during a Presidential debate.

We won in 1996 because of Clinton's charisma and he was the incumbent, and because Newt overplayed his hand when he shut down the government.
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mtop Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 04:47 PM
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6. Newt shut down the government?
I'm confused...I thought Clinton did that.
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Buffler Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 04:49 PM
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7. You are correct
Edited on Tue Jan-20-04 04:50 PM by Buffler
Clinton did it by not signing the needed legislation to keep it open.

On Edit: Thats how I remember it. I could be wrong and Newt prevented the House from passing said legislation. But I don't remember it happening that way.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 04:50 PM
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8. Nope. It was Newt.
And it all came from petty jealousy over being snubbed on Air Force One, if I remember correctly.

But if you're confused about that, Mr fr..iendly neighbor, then perhaps you may be confused about other things?
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 04:53 PM
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9. Absolutely not
He allowed himself to be smeared and lost his re-election, after trying as hard as he could to support everything Bush wanted, and now he has silently left the 9/11 comission with a lot of unanswered questions. I don't care that he is a decorated veteran, I have very little confidence in him.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 05:02 PM
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10. No, but not because I dislike Cleland
I just think we have stronger candidates for that spot, and I believe the ticket should be a combination of two campaigns who made it to the end.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 05:13 PM
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11. A Kerry/Cleland ticket would rock!
As a Senator Kerry would do best to pick an outsider, a southerner, or a mid-westerner.

After losing in 2002, Cleland is not someone most would think of as an insider. Clark would be another great choice in the south, or Governor Kathleen Sebelius to provide a boost in Kansas or Missouri.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 05:20 PM
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12. Sure
I'd prefer Someone younger (Edwards) who will be ready to take over in 2012. But I really think it would be good to have two war heroes running against to two cowards.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 05:25 PM
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13. What an amazing idea!
I think he would be incredible with either Gen. Clark or Kerry. Both the team would be war heros with the injuries and awards to boot. Up against them would be chickenhawks AWOL and draft dodger Cheney. :D
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 05:30 PM
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14. Cleland's a truly honorable man... And, there would be some delicious
aspects to it-- vindicating a smeared war veteran and honorable public servant at the hands of the Repubs. Plus, it would be a really nice precedent to have the first wheel-chair bound disable vet as VP. Having said that, I have to admit, I don't know enough of his views to make an educated assessment right now.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 05:42 PM
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15. I absolutely ADORE Max Cleland
And think he would make the best choice for Vice-President, regardless of the candidate.

:D
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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:04 PM
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16. Me, too n/t
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:08 PM
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18. Rove would tear it apart.
Here's how it'd go. Ads beginning with a nice, warm voiceover - "Max Cleland. Vietnam veteran. War hero. But, regretfully..." Then cut to fear-based crapola about letting a man with one limb be a heartbeat away from the presidency. It'd work, too.

Later.

RJS
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:11 PM
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19. You think that would work?

You are entitled to your opinion, but no, the ad you describe would backfire badly on Bush, IMHO.

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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:14 PM
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20. You are right, it would work.
I can just hear certain voters now: "Oh, that poor man, just look at him. I'm sure he is smart and qualified, but we just can't have HIM as VP. Oh, no no, it wouldn't do...".

Had the voters knwn about FDR, he would have lost, as well, although simply being paraplegic wouldn't lose it for him, now. But having only one limb would. We haven't 'grown up'enough yet for tht.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:14 PM
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21. I voted No. Cleland has been way too silent
He's not speaking up about Bush or this war.
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