KittyWampus
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Wed Jan-12-05 10:51 PM
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The Democrats Are The Party Of Taxation, Litigation & Regulation? |
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Apparently some Ex-GOP Congressman said that today on Crossfire.
And that sounds pretty much like how the GOP tries to peg the Party that represents the American Ideal of Socail Justice.
Perhaps Taxation is just another word for paying as you go & not leaving your grandchildren a load of debt. Fiscal Responsiblity demands that those who participate in society have to contribute their dues.
Perhaps Litigation is a reference to the Rule of Law where every citizen and every corporation is held responsible for their actions. Maybe Litigation is about achieving Social Justice so our society can live up to its full potential and ideals rather than descending into a corrupt dictatorship of One Party Rule.
Regulation? Ask any parent of a 14 year old if they think curfews are a bad thing. Corporations have no ethical or moral code. They exist only to create a profit for a limited set of people. Isn't it immoral to allow those with vast sums of money and influence to do as they please with no boundaries?
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Wed Jan-12-05 10:52 PM
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We're the party of responsibility and accountability. That's why they hate us.
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Wed Jan-12-05 10:58 PM
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2. Responsibility and accountability hurt profits |
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Its much easier to make money by screwing people. Just ask Ken lay.
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Wed Jan-12-05 10:59 PM
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3. Tack on "Sensibility" and you have the trifecta |
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Taxation, Litigation & Regulation? Not!
Try... Responsibility, Accountability & Sensibility
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Wed Jan-12-05 11:01 PM
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4. The only reason he can say this and get away with it.... |
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...is because the corporate propaganda machine has spent years framing this issue in the media, independent of any political campaign. That GOP politican you talk about is just harvesting the fruits of billions spent by the think tanks.
Obviously, he is wrong. But we need to lay an ideological counter-propaganda foundation before we can even get in the game. The Big Problem with all this is that all these ideas are in the realm of economics. Now, the GOP leadership and party hacks AGREE with that ideological economic mythological laid down by the rightwing propaganda machine. So they have no trouble leveraging all that work done.
However, the Democratic party leaders and hacks also AGREE with the economic ideology/mythology laid down by the rightwing machine. THat is why they have long refused to get involved with a similar machine for the leftwing. Before the American Left can even begin to compete on this ideological battlefield, we need leaders and party hacks who actually believe there is such a thing as a leftist economic ideology.
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Wed Jan-12-05 11:14 PM
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5. Every single Republican I know says this |
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and when I ask them to explain that to me...they can't make a case that also doesn't describe the average American and politician...rather Dah...
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Wed Jan-12-05 11:27 PM
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6. Dems are the Party of Community, Civilization, and Protection! |
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Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 11:29 PM by NAO
And the institutions that mankind has established to promote community, civilization, and protection are respectively taxation, legislation, and regulation.
Taxation is the institution that facilitates community. It makes things like paved roads, public schools, clean water at the tap, police, firefighters, and the military possible.
Legislation is the institution that establishes civilization. Men pass laws to enable them to live together harmoniously in communities. Plato wrote the story with extended analysis on this one a few hundred years before Christ. See Plato's "The Laws".
Regulation is the institution that civilized communities enact to protect their members from reckless behavior that may not be overtly violent (such as those things forbidden by the laws) but that may still be harmful to individuals or to the community.
So in that sense, I guess Dems ARE the part of taxation, legislation, and regulation.
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KittyWampus
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Wed Jan-12-05 11:31 PM
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8. That's A Really Well Thought Out Post. |
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Wed Jan-12-05 11:50 PM
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10. Thanks. I've been practicing framing... |
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and that's how I think taxation, legislation, and regulation need to be framed.
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Wed Jan-12-05 11:29 PM
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7. We are the party of responcibility, accountability and equity. |
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Wed Jan-12-05 11:41 PM
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9. Actually The REPUKES Have Become |
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Everything, they say they AREN'T! They want to REGULATE Abortion, the Death Penalty, Tort Reform, Social Security and don't think they aren't taxing us!!
They just call them FAMILY VALUES!!
Hypocrisy, alive AND well!
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